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Posted: 3rd Jun 2010 23:40 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2010 23:42
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As the title suprisingly suggests,some fellow students and I were ID'd for a coke during a visit to wetherspoons for lunch a few weeks ago. Now, bearing in mind we are all above the age of 18 (and look much older, considering I hadn't shaved at the time), there was then an awkward silence as I simply stared at the waiter as if to say: "It's a coke...". But still, the same, automated "you got any ID mate" played over and over again like a broken CD. I would also like to bring up the fact, that in my opinion, the UK has suddenly become rather strict regarding their "If you look under 25" policy over the last few months. I don't even remember the US being this anal about ID when I went and bought a crate of bud in 7/11 (and I wasnt even of the legal drinking age!)

Anyone else have any interesting stories to tell?

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2010 23:48 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2010 23:50
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Although he probably didn't realise it, he was right to challenge you. If you are under 18, you can only be there if you are with somebody 18+, and you buy a meal. So one of you had to prove they were 18.

But to be honest, it sounds like he was just being damned awkward.

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Im not quite 18 yet, and i honestly cant say i look the part, <- a good thing imo ) so i get knocked back from about 9/10 bars in liverpool one. I just go to my regular places nowdays, i know most of the staff so. Though just a quick note, if underage people are caught drinking on the premises, then the place can be shut down or/+ a huge fine. I just say i got someone else to get me it lol.

In all honesty that dosnt bother me too much. Its the fact i got knocked back for borderlands (18rated) does. I was paying on card with a load of clothes and gear with me, didnt looked the part. An i still got knocked back in Game, so i went to Game station, round the corner, no questions, served, bought. Seems like shops are OCD over rules, even if they lose aload of bussiness lol


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Why would they want ID for buying a coke? If you're in a bar, most require you to be over 18 just to be in there. Any you might look older than most 18yr olds, but that doesn't mean you necessarily look older.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2010 00:38 Edited at: 4th Jun 2010 00:42
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I'm 19. I got ID'd for buying plastic spoons at Tescos

Beat that

(I'm not kidding either. Possibly one of the most bizarre things that has ever happened)

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I never get asked, even when I'm buying things like cigarettes (I don't smoke...often, usually friends give me money to get them things down at the store when I go), so I'm not sure why other people get so defensive. That's someone who takes their job way to seriously.

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Honestly, any time someone is supposed to card for what they're selling, or for being in their place of business, I give them a pat on the back. It's the one time they're "nice" and don't do it that they get busted and lose their job or business. Hell, back when I worked for Labor Ready, a buddy of mine got a job where he was the guy who went around to all the little shops and tried to purchase alchohol/tobacco, taking note of anywhere that didn't card him like they were supposed to. So, honestly, if it were me, I'd card everyone at least once, until I remembered them by face that they'd shown me ID.

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Seeing what some people say scare me a bit...I'm kinda a rule-follower by heart, so Laz's story especially makes me a bit worried.

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I'm 19 and i got asked for ID to buy Just Cause 2, which is 15+. Well i do look 14. Which is good for getting into places at kids prices.

When i was in school, i seen a few students walk into a shop and buy a packet of smokes in there school uniform.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2010 08:57 Edited at: 4th Jun 2010 08:58
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They recently changed the law in Britain, if you are caught selling anything that has an age restriction to someone under that age it is the shop worker that is held accountable. I'm not sure if the company takes some of the blame but it used to be that the worker would be safe from legal action, not any more, you can get a criminal record.

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That's ridiculous. Last time I checked Coke didn't contain alcohol.

If that ever happens to me, I'd go home, get a can of Coke, go back to the shop and drink it right in front of them.
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Quote: "That's ridiculous. Last time I checked Coke didn't contain alcohol.

If that ever happens to me, I'd go home, get a can of Coke, go back to the shop and drink it right in front of them"


LOL

I got ID'd for buying lighters once but that's totally understandable I guess...


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Quote: "That's ridiculous. Last time I checked Coke didn't contain alcohol."


No but I think in is early years it had something better, but they had to remove it.

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The law is you have to be 18 or older to order at a bar, so it's not surprising that you'd get ID'd. I got ID'd for ordering food in Wetherspoons, but it was at the bar. Odd, I know, but it's not Wetherspoons being stupid, it's the law and they can get into a lot of trouble if they don't uphold it.

Sone places won't let you in on the premises without ID, after 11pm the Wetherspoons where I live does that.

Quote: "I'm 19. I got ID'd for buying plastic spoons at Tescos

Beat that

(I'm not kidding either. Possibly one of the most bizarre things that has ever happened)"


When I worked at Woolworths, I had to ID people for cutlery. Though I wouldn't count plastic spoons as being dangerous, but hey, the till tends to pop up with a little warning signal asking if the person is of age, then if you're unsure, you have to ask for ID. It's the same with anti-perpirants, I think now you have to be 18+ to buy them because of solvant abuse.

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I work in retail, if I want to keep my job I'm supposed to ID anyone buying fags or booze that looks under 25.

You'd be surprised the amount of people that have a go when I don't ID them.

Just to add a dash more crazy to the mix; I'm not supposed to sell de-icer or firelighters to anyone under 21.

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Well you can juggle with firelighters which is pretty fun, but the name says it all really, fire-lighter.

De-icer is pretty nasty stuff, very poisoness and extreamly hard to diagnose/treat when ingested. Very hard to diagnose as a casue of death too, so it should be restricted. Whoo random stuff i know. Cant be very healthy can it?


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My wife and I were recently barred from even entering Wetherspoons - I guess we looked too old.

I didn't bother to show my bus pass.
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I got carded for for buying air-in-a-can and I am almost 30 with a full beard. I understand the whole reason for carding for 'duster', but I thought it was strange to card me.

When I was 17, I worked as a cook in a restaurant and we were having a Christmas party. I asked my boss (who was a jerk, he used to start fights with guests.(one time he started something and the guy jumped from his table and chased him through the kitchen. My boss ran into his office locked the door and called the police(but that's another story for a another time))) if I could have a beer since everyone else was drinking. He asked, "Are you 21?" I said, "No." He said, "Well, I won't give you any here, but if you can go buy it yourself, I'll let you drink it here." With a smirk on his face.

I ran down to the convenience store, bought a 12 pack (I wasn't carded) and went back with a beer in hand. He freaked out, kicked me out of the party and later in the week, called me in his office and told me he was thinking about firing me for doing that.

Anyways... TLDR; It is their job to card. I worked at a 7-11 and once got "green carded" for asking for ID. If I hadn't asked, I would have got a "red card"(basically just a business card with a red/green sticker on it) and the owner would have been fined severely.

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Well im a young adult [sorry, is that good?] and people think im 17/18 (im 6'2" at 200 pounds with a stache) so i really dont have any problems with 18 and over stuff (mainly games and the theater). Plus the fact that the popo where i live are to busy with domestic violence calls, or just doing s.s.d.d

lol mclovin fake id fail XD thats all i could think of with this thread

off topic:
Guys at walmart are douche bags,
Guys at target, not so bad
Guys at gamestop, LOL AWESOME!!!
Gamestop is like Dont ask Dont tell where i live, they wont ask as long as you dont tell XD (within reason) like if your 13 you can buy any game you want in there, if youre like 10, its up to teen or sumthin.

I actually saw a mom buying an M-Rated game for her 9y.o and the clerk said is this for you little buddy?
of course kids being loudmouthed he said yes.
so the clerk totally chastised the mom and put the game back on the rack and asked them to leave, i bout shat in my pants from laughing

The only thing i.d is relevant for where i live is of course booze, but it doesnt solve anything.

Under-aged Girl: Hey johnny, you would be really cool if you bought some beer for the party tonight
Jonny: umm, (having second thoughts) , i dont think thats such a good ide----
Under-aged Girl: I have something i want to give to you tonight
Johnny: ALRIGHT!!! IL DO IT!!!
Later at the party

Johnny shows up , underaged girl greets him at the door, takes the booze, and shuts the door.

So you see childrenn,,,
waiiiitttt a second...
i just went completely off topic
anyway, the point im making, is that you can get someone older than you to do your "dirty work"

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Don't post your age if you're not an adult!




Quote: "I'm 19. I got ID'd for buying plastic spoons at Tescos

Beat that"


I was carded at the grocery store for buying grape juice..... I was 23 at the time. Sure I could've just shown them my license, but I insisted on a manager.


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Quote: "Sure I could've just shown them my license, but I insisted on a manager."


I take it you had time to spare?

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I like to give stupid people a hard time. The manager didn't even say anything, just walked up, swiped the juice and walked off, glaring at the cashier.


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Well, I am definitely under-age. More so then most people here. Basically I can get what I want because in order to get it my dad has to be there, as I cannot drive.

Also, I've never been interested in things like alcohol (there's plenty laying around the house in opaque boxes, if I wanted some I could have it ) cigarettes, and duster.

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Quote: "Well, I am definitely under-age. More so then most people here. Basically I can get what I want because in order to get it my dad has to be there, as I cannot drive.

Also, I've never been interested in things like alcohol (there's plenty laying around the house in opaque boxes, if I wanted some I could have it ) cigarettes, and duster."


I'm in the same situation. My parents trust me so much that I could do just about whatever I wanted without being suspected of anything.

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Well, here in Holland ( atleast, were I live ) I can buy whatever I want. And I look like a 13 year old. People ask me to get drinks or cigarettes when I go buy my lunch at the supermarket. And I never got ID'd ever in my life. Kinda wierd that here I can get everything I want, but I guess it's the way people rebel against all the frikkin stupid rules. I mean, if they legalise cocaine, I wont start using it, but it will prevent the other guy in my class from getting really [mod edit]3 day noob slap. Please don't star out swears.[/mod edit] up when he get's a bad load. [mod edit]no... just no!!!!![/mod edit]

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PS: Kinda went off topic xD. ah wel. Asking people for their ID is just stupid, if kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, let them.

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Quote: "PS: Kinda went off topic xD. ah wel. Asking people for their ID is just stupid, if kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, let them."

If kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, it is because they are to young to understand the consequences. So why give them the chance.


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Quote: "If kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, it is because they are to young to understand the consequences. So why give them the chance."


I'm underage and I'm agreeing. IMHO, alcohol shouldn't be legal, it's just that it's so heavily engraved into our culture.

I won't drink when I'm old enough to. Why should I? I've lived long enough without it, I don't really see why I should leap into it like most do.
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Quote: "I've lived long enough without it, I don't really see why I should leap into it like most do. "


I agree. Also, I just really hate the idea of being conscious and not being able to control my every action in a normal way.

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Creepin up on 30 and I still get carded for smokes at the stores that I haven't been going to for over 20 years.

Just the other day, an older (and I do mean OLDER) guy with cowboy hat, long grey moustache an beard got carded buying a six pack of beer. He looked back at me and shook his head. The cashier is just doing his job though, I like giving them a hard time and play keep away with my card as the try to snatch it from me though. lol
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Several years ago, when you had to be 16 to smoke, I drove my car into the petrol station once, filled up, walked in, keys in hand, "pump no. 3 please, and 20 marlboro" and got IDed for cigarettes.

What a plonker.

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Just got carded seeing at the movie theater last night going to see Splice. I can sorta understand, since that was a seriously screwed up movie in retrospect, but it was still the first time I'd been carded at a theater in almost a year. When I'm in New York I walk right into bars no problem despite being a couple months shy of 21.


Quote: "Anyways... TLDR; It is their job to card. I worked at a 7-11 and once got "green carded" for asking for ID. If I hadn't asked, I would have got a "red card"(basically just a business card with a red/green sticker on it) and the owner would have been fined severely."


You wouldn't be in Arizona, would you? They're mean about that stuff over here.

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All I know is that most of the time, Wetherspoons has good food.

I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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i get ID'd all the time, i recently found out that here they passed a law that no matter what the rating on the box is they have to ID you if you look under 25, and that includes 12+ games! at the movies they're a bit more leniant, never get ID'd there

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Quote: "Gamestop is like Dont ask Dont tell where i live, they wont ask as long as you dont tell XD (within reason) like if your 13 you can buy any game you want in there, if youre like 10, its up to teen or sumthin."

Complete lie! lol. The Gamestops I've been to couldn't be any more opposite than that. I live right across the street from one. The people practically know me by name. I'm 19. And I've NEVER NOT been ID'd. About two months ago, I had lost my ID but I wanted to buy ODST for the Reach beta. I figured it wouldn't be a big deal. I went home without a game that day

Quote: "I agree. Also, I just really hate the idea of being conscious and not being able to control my every action in a normal way"

Everyone says that, but no one follows through. I remember the days when I said "I will never drink or do any drugs!" Now I just say, "hey I've got whiskey!" But I guess I should say "good for you for saying NO to drugs and alcohol." lol.

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From reading this post, It seems that many a user has had similar experiences regarding ID etc. Well, as a message to the youngsters out there; below is a picture of me in Eddies american pool bar after a "few" to many. You can almost see the regret and sorrow on my face as if I'm saying; "Oh Why! Why did I drink that 8th pint of Coors!"


See Kids? This is what happens...Wait until your of legal age!

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Quote: "Quote: "PS: Kinda went off topic xD. ah wel. Asking people for their ID is just stupid, if kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, let them."
If kids want to ruin their life with alcohol, it is because they are to young to understand the consequences. So why give them the chance.
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Well, here in holland, they start teaching children how bad alcohol is at the age of +-10 ( here sixth grade ). And they spend millions of millions of euro's on all the advertisement etc. And what is the result, more people start drinking. And honestly, either make it illegal ( which I do not suggest ) or let the kids handle it themselves. Come on, when you were a kid, and you parents told you you should eat that cookie, you ate it just because someone older told you not to. I believe that the same thing is happening with alcohol. Hell, I would love to let the alcohol burn away the memories of those boring lessons were we were listing to some guy telling us alcohol is bad.

Ok, I do not say we should just let them drink whatever they want. But all those commercials about how bad it is are just a waste of money. We know it is bad, but we still drink it. Why? because we like it and, atleast for most of the people I know, because you told us not to, and we are at the age where we want to go against our parents as much as possible.

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PS: Damn man, I'm writing long posts xD. Ah well, again went off-topic. But ey, atleast now you know my oppinium.

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Lol, got noob slapped xD. Ah well. Hope the mod's wont find my oppinion to disturbing for the minors here. Or, whatever reason they slapped me except that 1 swear I believe I let go in my previous post. And nice picture creator xD. But back on topic. I think that even though you need to ID people for stuff like alcohol and cigarettes, the other stuff mentioned here ( lighters etc. ), damn, that's just overreacting. I mean, come on, if I were sitting behind a, how do you call it... uh.. well, kassa in dutch. The last thing I want is to wait for a person to grab his ID and then in the end still give him the lighter.

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You do look quite young CoZ, I would have ID'd you!

Don't forget that bar staff can get seriously fined if they don't ID people (who are under aged). You will find most of the time its a precautionary measure.

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soon they'll card everyone, no matter how old you look.

it's not just an age verification process, by the way

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A few of the bars/clubs near here, simply id everyone before they let you in. It doesn't matter how old you look. I think blanket policies like these are good, and save the bar staff any hassles and save everyone LOTS of money in potential fines.

As for those of you who say you won't ever drink and you think it should be banned, you're being very naive. Lots of people enjoy the odd drink, without drinking to excess. You don't have to drink until you are blind drunk.

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Quote: "As for those of you who say you won't ever drink and you think it should be banned,"


I don't think it should be banned. No, I was just saying that I myself am not one who plans on drinking.

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Here in Mass you will be fined for not carding even if the person is of legal age. The store 24 near me got hit for $150 for not carding a 32 year old.

I was in a liquor store once where a person bought a case of beer and a few nips just fine then forgot the needed cigarettes and asked for a pack and got carded for them but no the booze????

I just want people to actually check ID when they take my credit card, I went years with no signature and in bold sharpie letters on the back "CHECK ID". Didn't get checked once.

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Quote: "De-icer is pretty nasty stuff, very poisoness and extreamly hard to diagnose/treat when ingested."

I'm listening...
Quote: "Very hard to diagnose as a casue of death too..."

How much is this De-icer stuff?

Quote: "I got carded for for buying air-in-a-can and I am almost 30 with a full beard."

If only we lived in a world where a beard was a valid form of identification. "Beard, go through... Beard, go through... no beard, have you got your ID?" or a cop pulls you over, he comes over to the window "oh! sorry I didn't realise you had a beard, move along."

I wasn't allowed to buy a pair of pliers once because I didn't have ID. Obviously street gangs have started using pliers instead of guns.

What does age have to do with it? Surely a ten year old is far less likely to buy a knife to go kill someone than a twenty year old? Why is it the shops fault anyway? I might buy everything in a stationers and then go on a killing spree using only my purchases just to make a point.

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Quote: "Very hard to diagnose as a casue of death too"


Is it? I don't think ingesting such a large amount of chemicals will leave no trace.

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Quote: "You wouldn't be in Arizona, would you? They're mean about that stuff over here."

Nah, I was working in St Louis at the time.

Quote: "If only we lived in a world where a beard was a valid form of identification."

At least us beardies aren't taxed for our epicness anymore!

I've been ID'd at a bar, and they wouldn't serve me because they saw another ID in my wallet behind my driver's license. I tried explaining that one was a driver's license and the other was a nondriver's license, but they didn't buy it. I just like to have two forms of picture ID.

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Posted: 7th Jun 2010 19:15 Edited at: 7th Jun 2010 19:48
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Some background info;

http://uimc.discoveryhospital.com/main.php?t=enc&id=626

As far as ive been told, it used to be misdiagnosed as flu, by the time other symptoms came, well they pinning to the hills.

Seems theve added dyes in, to diagnose it easier.

What makes it leathal is 1-2 spoons is enough, that an it tastes sweet so its easy to hide.

an from what i know, it has a half decent absorbtion rate so it wont linger, but enough time to do damage.


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Quote: "What makes it leathal is 1-2 spoons is enough, that an it tastes sweet so its easy to hide."

That's why you've got to dispose of it properly. A pet will want to lap it up, and even a small amount is enough to not have a pet anymore.

Quote: "hakf decnet"

At first I was like... German formula? Then I was like... Ah, speedy fingers.

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sorry lol


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Posted: 7th Jun 2010 21:10 Edited at: 7th Jun 2010 21:12
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Just a little update for you...
Today, I ventured into tesco's to buy a bottle of wine. Before I go any further, I would like to state that I was wearing a JD leather bikers jacket with some plain jeans. Now, I'm not sure how many of you are aware that tesco's security dress in plush black suits, and you will occasionally see them standing by the door, or perhaps browsing the alcohol isle.
Upon arriving at the wine isle, I picked out my desired wine, which had a security alarm tag on the top of the bottle to stop theft etc...nothing unusual yet.. So, I walked to the self-scan checkout where you scan your own items, although if you wish to purchase alcohol, then a shop assistent has to come over and enter an authorisation code (after IDing you considering tesco's and many other supermarkets in the UK opperate a "challenge 25" policy). As I draw closer to the till, suddenly 4 of the 'black suit' security personnel appear near the till...and just stand there. As I scan my wine, they just stared at me (they had tinted glasses on, so it was impossible to see their eyes which made it worse) saying nothing. The manager came over and ID'd me etc..no problem there, but when I turned round, another 2 of these suit wearing, giant, no necked security guards appeared to join the 4 (also saying nothing), and proceeded to follow me out the shop....

That was perhaps the most interesting trip to tescos Iv'e had as of yet.

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