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Phaelax
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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 02:10 Edited at: 10th Jun 2010 00:05
I've included two separate links because Apple's site is running very slow for me at the moment.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/

- 2x the previous screen resolution, 4x the pixels
- video calling (only on wifi I think)
- 720p video recording
- 5mp camera with 5x zoom and flash
- A4 cpu as in the iPad


It looks thicker than previous versions, despite engagement saying its 25% thinner. Ok, Apple says its 9.3mm thin, that's less than a millimeter thicker than the current iPod touch.


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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 02:20 Edited at: 8th Jun 2010 02:20
cool, but i think it's funny how americans (mainly just steve jobs) think the iphone is so advanced... Japan, Korea, and several other countries have had video calling for years. When i was in Korea i had people asking me why the iphone was so popular, they couldn't understand what was so special about it.

Of course, for what we have available to us in the U.S. it's good choice.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 02:30
To be able to support video calling over the network without wifi is more up to the carriers than the phone developers. And while the iPhone isn't exactly unique any more, I think the existing features are better implemented than other phones. And now the camera and screen have been increased so much, I don't see what android users can say they have over iPhone anymore. I'm not aware of any phone that included accelerometers and proximity censors in a phone before the first iPhone, but I'm not sure. I don't want to turn this into a "blah blah is better than iphone, apple suxxors".

All the rumors about Verizon getting the new iPhone appear to be false for the time being.


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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 03:01
Wow, they've really nailed it. Wish I could afford one.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 03:12
$199 which is about £137, for a piece of hardware that allows you to phone people up, play games, take photos and what ever else, I think that's a decent price. Any one know if it has SatNav, because I'd buy one if it does.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 04:23 Edited at: 8th Jun 2010 04:28
Quote: "cool, but i think it's funny how americans (mainly just steve jobs) think the iphone is so advanced... Japan, Korea, and several other countries have had video calling for years. When i was in Korea i had people asking me why the iphone was so popular, they couldn't understand what was so special about it. "


Yeah, I was gonna say... haven't Android phones had video calling for years now? And not just phone to phone, but also phone to pc and pc to phone.

The new iPhone screen looks great. Its too small though.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 04:38
Meh.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 04:57
Twice the resolution.... 4 times the pixels.

Anyways looks solid. No 64 gig is upsetting but what the hey, still looks nice. Hopefully the screen is more smudge resistant this time around, 'specially considering the back is of the same material.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 05:24
That...looks awesome.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 05:43
I am a fan of the new design. It looks awesome.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 08:31
i hope this one will be able to take as much damage as the older ones, my mom has dropped her on the floor, my kid has played and dropped her phone.. still works, even though it is like 1 or 2 years old^^


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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 13:04
It amuses me that even though this was leaked months ahead of release, whoever dissected it completely missed the addition of a gyroscope. In fact I don't think any of the leaks even nailed the use of an A4 for definite either

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 14:29
Why does Apple have to poop out a new product every month?

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Quote: "Why does Apple have to poop out a new product every month?"


It's called making money. That's what businesses do



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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 15:45
Ive got a funny feeling its going to cost £400 in the UK...
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@Chenak,

I think it'll be more, maybe even £600 at the worst . Still, this one's awesome, shame I won't be able to afford one by a longshot...meh, I love my S-5560 too much

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 18:57
For $199 you still haver to get an expensive contract with AT&T, and the price goes up to $700 to buy it

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Posted: 8th Jun 2010 18:58
Quote: "Quote: "Why does Apple have to poop out a new product every month?"

It's called making money. That's what businesses do"


It's also "keeping up" with current technology, trends, blah blah blah...but definitely more about making money than anything.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 22:00
Which do you guys recommend, ipad or iphone 4? I can't decide!

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 22:17
Not that I have either, but I would go for the iphone 4. As far as I no, the iPad doesn't allow multitasking and you cant make phone calls. And anyway, an iphone is portable.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 23:15
I'm sure the iPad will have multitasking in no time. It has the same processor.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 23:20 Edited at: 9th Jun 2010 23:20
Quote: "Not that I have either, but I would go for the iphone 4. As far as I no, the iPad doesn't allow multitasking and you cant make phone calls. And anyway, an iphone is portable."


And no built in USB ports, which are important for a tablet. You have to buy adapters at $30 a piece.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 00:05
Quote: "haven't Android phones had video calling for years now?"

Years? uhh no, considering Android was just released in late 2008, that's less than 2 years ago.

Quote: "The new iPhone screen looks great. Its too small though."

Any bigger and I doubt I'd want to carry it around in my pocket.



Quote: "According to NPD Group, unit sales for Android OS smartphones ranked second among all smartphone OS handsets sold in the U.S. in the first quarter of 2010.[15][16] BlackBerry OS and the iPhone OS ranked first and third respectively"

I'm having a hard time believing that many people are still buying blackberries.


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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 00:42
Quote: "Any bigger and I doubt I'd want to carry it around in my pocket."


EVO 4G.

Quote: "Years? uhh no, considering Android was just released in late 2008, that's less than 2 years ago."


Yeah, and hasn't it had video conferencing features since then?

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 01:04 Edited at: 10th Jun 2010 02:35
People seem to be missing the point here: video conferencing isn't the feature. The feature is:

- It's a forward facing camera
- It doesn't require an extra app
- It doesn't require a user account of any kind. You just call normally.

As far as I know, Android doesn't do all of those things at once.

'Fring' only brought 2 way video calling this year to Android (May) so I have no idea where this "it's been there for years" rubbish is coming from

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 01:08
Quote: "It's an HD forward facing camera"


Front camera is VGA Back is HD.

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Quote: "Front camera is VGA Back is HD."


Yeah, momentary brain fail. But the fact it's forward facing at all is fairly significant anyhow whether it's HD or not

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 01:58
... Not really, image sensors good enough for video calling are pretty cheap now a-days.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 02:34
Quote: "$199 which is about £137, for a piece of hardware that allows you to phone people up, play games, take photos and what ever else, I think that's a decent price. Any one know if it has SatNav, because I'd buy one if it does."


Assuming that the US->UK prices work like this (as they rarely never do).

It will probably be £200 in the UK, if not more.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 03:04
Quote: "'Fring' only brought 2 way video calling this year to Android (May) so I have no idea where this "it's been there for years" rubbish is coming from"

other countries, it's been there for years...

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Posted: 10th Jun 2010 10:56 Edited at: 10th Jun 2010 10:57
Quote: "other countries, it's been there for years..."


I'm guessing you're referring to video calls in general, in which case, yes: With terrible handsets and expensive carriers - and in nearly all cases, both people had to be on the same network to be in a video call. Unless the network and their handsets are absolutely huge, the chances you'd actually get to make a video call to someone would be extremely low.

Hutchinson 3G, for example - I'm surprised they're even still in business. They've been around (in the UK at least) for 7 or so years but their entire network is overpriced and useless.

It's another case of these things having existed forever in various forms, but once again, it requires Apple to unify it and get it out to everyone. You may disagree with this - but think about it: When was the last time you actually saw someone take a video call on their phone? (and not a Skype or other video chat - but an actual phone-like video call)

I don't think I have ever seen a person take a video call. Why? Because the tech has existed, but it has been isolated to a few select (and typically greedy) networks (who use video calls as their primary feature - cough Hutchinson 3G). Apple, whilst not an innovator, is going to be a 'populiser' in this respect

(as they have been with many technologies but few give them credit for. Wi-fi, USB standard peripherals etc. They didn't invent these things but they brought them to a much wider market by putting them into a decent product.)

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Posted: 12th Jun 2010 02:34
Hmm I've had video calling on my N97 and N900 for a long time. I don't like it, but to each their own!

And the iPad has VOIP software you can use to make calls over a WiFi network with its built-in mic...


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Posted: 14th Jun 2010 15:29
Quote: "Other phones have had it for years... "


Yeah, but it's not about who's had it first, but about who does it the best. And Apple has always been best.
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Posted: 15th Jun 2010 12:55
As far as I'm concerned, all a phone needs to do is ring people when needed and text people when needed. My phone cost about £20, it does both those things, why would I need more?

I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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when you have a job that requires you to check email constantly, a phone which can do that is a god send, or a nightmare depending on how you look at your job.


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