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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 02:19
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even with a nvidia geforce 9800 GT, i'm tired of playing laggy games at half the graphical quality on account of my single-core AMD, so i was thinking of getting an Intel Core i7. my brother thinks it's a waste of money compared to an i5, but i really don't know much and i need multiple opinions.

i also would need a new mobo, since this one doesn't support Intel.

TBH i don't know the first thing about what to look for in processors and especially in a mobo, and would like some pointers


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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 02:49 Edited at: 9th Jun 2010 02:49
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2 Years ago I bought an intel QX9650 for £600. My Friend told me I was a fool, as a AMD quad core processor would cost a third of that price.

What he didn't realise, is this is what you pay for:


Don't listen to people who tell you spending money on a processor is stupid, as the i5 will be "all right" now, but in 2 years time it will be at the bottom of the charts.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 17:08
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Sounds a bit like my brother. I hate going shopping with him, don't buy that, that's a waste, you'll never use it blah blah blah. Usually we leave with nothing then I order it online anyway.

Sometimes, when you decide you want something it's best to just get it, forget anyone elses opinion and just please yourself.

I actually told my brother off last week, he's getting a new monitor and was bragging about the response time... well I just told him straight that I could not give a monkey's chuff, and that he should just enjoy the new monitor, instead of turning it into a bitch race every time.


So yeah, go for it - you've decided that you'd like a new processor, one that will last a while, and your brother probably can't afford one - so he can't see the relevance of spending more money on future proofing. Ignore him unless he has major concerns - but mostly it's just ill-educated nay-saying. The best thing to do is buy it, then don't mention it at all to your brother, he'll know you have it, but don't brag about it - be humble and it'll annoy the hell out of him even more. If he is like my brother, then he'll be hoping you brag about it so he can tell you how 'pointless' it is. Enjoy your purchases, and know that your not the only one with a buzzkilling-naysaying-christmasruinning brother.


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I think it is much better to buy an AMD quad core since they are much cheaper and the speeds are keeping up with Intel simmilar processors.


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Luckily I use an abit motherboard which are tied with AMD, so I'm with a CPU company which don't screw off their customers. Their newest processor, the Opteron, gives you more bang for your buck than Intel, their newest i7 one just sounds like a spunky new version of a Quad-Core with 2 new cores. Plus, Intel's Quad Cores are typically £200 each, whilst AMD's Phenom Processors come in at around £100 I think. A 2.5GHz Quad-Core AMD Processor for £124? Yes please, that'll keep me going for a long time with 10GHz overall . Better than the Dual-Core 2.3GHz Athlon X2 4400+ I have right now .

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I had AMD's all my life (never an Intel,might change in future,laptop with an Atom CPU). First I had a Duron 800,still runs,then Athlon 1800+ XP,still runs today,then Sempron 3000+,still runs today,Athlon X2 4400+,still runs today,Athlon X2 6000+,still runs today,Turion X2 2,3ghz,still runs.


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Exactly. AMD don't upgrade fraction-by-fraction, they wait until a leap in technology, then empower that, which is what I like because Intel are all over the place, although it's hard to guess how new an AMD processor is by it's name if you're new, albeit the fact that it's the same as Intel's E series. My dad's PC uses an Intel Dual-Core 2.1GHz and that's looked straight down upon by Intel's new snazzy super-powered cores...plus, AMD are more reliable too IMO.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 20:53 Edited at: 9th Jun 2010 21:01
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Quote: "AMD are more reliable too IMO"


How did you come to that conclusion?

Please stop confusing opinions and facts

In your minds, I was a fool to purchase a QX9650 for £600 2 years ago, but as you can see, it still trounces anything AMD has thrown out recently.

You get what you pay for.

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Quote: "Please stop confusing opinions and facts"


Someone's been doing their English homework lolz . I thought that because our Intel computer is slowly becoming unstable, even though we fitted in some RAM to boost it to 3.5GB, yet the system still crashes and slows down more than it's supposed to. Then we got Windows 7 for that and my PC, and it didn't fix the problem, so our biggest guess is the CPU, but I don't really want to get my hands dirty again since that computer has all of my dad's invoices, so one bad move and it's all blown. Besides, the CPU in our PC runs at 53 degrees C. average, mine used to run at 42 degrees with a crappy Heatsink, and now with my new fan it runs at 34 degrees or so from startup to when I start working, when it goes up to 39 odd.

Also, I did say IMO so yeah I just prefer AMD over Intel because I find them more reliable since my PC has rarely crashed and our other PC has crashed more times than a repeatedly drunk driving nutter xD.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 21:35 Edited at: 9th Jun 2010 21:38
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thanks for the input, i guess i'll just get whatever i want as far as AMD vs Intel goes, with my AMD Athlon 64 3500+ i've had my fair share of crashes and freezes, especially when playing games, but that could be a video card issue.

but now, as far as motherboards go, what kind of things do i have to check or be aware of?


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Quote: "PC has crashed more times than a repeatedly drunk driving nutter xD"


Doesn't mean that is the fault of the processor. I think you will find it very unlikely for any make of CPU to fail, and if it did it wouldn't simply crash your computer.

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Simply put,AMD is currently leading in quantity and price over Intel,sure Intel might be more stable but I prefer AMD over Intel anyday.


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Personally I've found Intel to be far more reliable than AMD, but to be honest it has been a few years since I had an AMD processor. I used to go for the cheaper option, but these days I'd rather spend a little extra and get something that'll last.


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Quote: "Simply put,AMD is currently leading in quantity and price over Intel,sure Intel might be more stable but I prefer AMD over Intel anyday."


I just don't understand statements like this. What has quantity and price got to do with the performance of the processor?

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Posted: 9th Jun 2010 23:52 Edited at: 9th Jun 2010 23:59
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OK i just watched a 24-video series on how to build a computer on youtube, and despite being 2 years old it was pretty informing.

so just quickly i looked on newegg to build my new PC around an Intel Core i7 875
this Intel MoBo looks like it has everything i need;
and i'll also be upgrading from my current 4GB RAM to this pair of OCZ 4GB RAM sticks.
hardware i'll be bringing from my current computer includes:
EVGA Nvidia GeForce 9800GT video card (i think that link is the one i have),
and 2x 2GB sticks of OCZ RAM which I don't know will fit in the new mobo. If it does then i will do a dance.
and this month i am also about to get a new Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card, which i will be using in my current and next computer.

anybody see any problems or have advisements on my current choices? i'm not going to have the money for this stuff for about a year, just planning ahead, so i've got plenty of time to do more research if i have to


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Well for £160 ish, you can get a AMD Phenom II X6 1055T, 2.8ghz
After a recent boost in cash, i decided this will let me relax for a good few years before it becomes outdated @ 16.8GHz, or 19.8 Oc'd. Good reviews from across the board so far.

I would much rather a company who takes there time in realesing meaningful jumps in performance, rather than the current graphics card race equivilent.


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OK i'm just going to go ahead and build a new PC when i have saved up the money for it.

CPU: as stated, Intel Core i7-875K
Mobo: Intel MicroATX LGA 1156
RAM: OCZ Gold 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3 1333 RAM
GPU: VisionTek Radeon HD 5750 1GB
Audio Card: Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi ExtremeGamer (b-day present )
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600W ATX 12V Modular Power Supply
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite 341 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3GB/s Internal HDD
Optical Drive: ASUS Black SATA 24x/8x/16x 2MB Cache DVD Burner
OS: Windows 7 64-bit

how does this look?


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Looks fine. I wouldn't worry too much about what device ranks better in benchmarks. The figures aren't necessarily always representative of the real world situation. If you want it and can afford it, then get it..


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Stay away from micro ATX motherboards on such huge hardware. You will get overheating and installing is kinda tricky because the heatsink of the CPU and GPU is huge.


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