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Mazz426
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Posted: 27th Jun 2010 20:43
hey i've been meaning to get around to making my own website for a while, but it occured to me that i don't really know the process, sure i can ride basic code for one and i know how to use a webpage making program like dreamweaver but i don't really know the process, so i wanted to ask you lot that do have them a few questions, here they are:

do you have to purchase a domain?
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how do you all make the look so professional?

Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 27th Jun 2010 21:45
Q) do you have to purchase a domain?

A) No. You can have a range of free domains such as .tk .co.cc etc...
My .co.uk domain cost me around £5 for 2 years if you are looking for the name of the place i used, email me.

Q) how do you all make the look so professional?

A) Its a case of practice. The purpose of your website strongly depends on what your website should look like, while one website may not be fit for one purpose it may work well for another.
For example, my website works well as a portfolio because of the simplistic minimalistic look that should be used for a portfolio to get your 'customers' straight to where you want them, a website used for flash games will be more colourful and more interactive to allow a better user experience to make them come back for more!

Anymore questions, just ask away (:

Mazz426
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Posted: 27th Jun 2010 21:59
thanks, can i ask what program you use to create and compile the graphics?

Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 27th Jun 2010 22:03
For graphics (I.e. Logo's etc...) I use Adobe Photoshop, its a good pro program that is very easy to use in my opinion

For the actual website i used a WYSIWYG editor (Dreamweaver) which basically, i find alot easier to use and gives me alot more time to work on my graphic design (which is what I do)

Are you looking to start a website or are you just curious?

Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 27th Jun 2010 22:16
There's a lot out there you can do and several different ways of going about and getting a website. The simplest probably is doing it by hand in Dreamweaver.

But I can go through how I can my website set up:
http://the-wiskwerrit.co.cc/

What I've used is called a CMS. In basic terms, it's a package you can use to set your website up, much like setting up a forum in many ways.

Sometimes they're a pain to set up, but hosts, like ByetHost actually make it easier. And yes, they do free hosting (mine's hosted for free)

http://byethost.com/

You can set up your own website through them and you can do one of many things - you'll start be creating a new sub-domain (like mywebsite.byethost4.com), then maybe upload a website from your hard drive via an FTP client (like FileZilla) or their file-manager. Or go straight to their site-builder, which perhaps everything you really need and it's simple to use, but for flexibility you might go to their script installation, which allows you to choose any number of service to use, including CMS - I used Joomla for my website and it installs like a charm. Stuff like Joomla you'd normal set up yourself, but byethost makes it easier for you. Then you log on to your own website as an admin, explore the features and see what you can do.

However, you might be most comfortable with the 'SiteBuilder' feature to start with.

If you want your own images, you can use an FTP client - either replace ones used by your website, or add new ones. For example - in the top left corner of my website, you'll notice my 'W' logo, but originally there was a file there called 'logo.png' and I replaced it with my own, also called 'logo.png'. To create logos like that, you might want a vector art program - because you've got Dreamweaver I assume you might have Flash or Fireworks, which can be used for vector art. But I use a freeby called 'Inkscape', which is here: http://www.inkscape.org/


The final thing you'll notice is that I have a .co.cc domain name. There are types of 'free' domain names you can acquire.

There's .co.cc: http://www.co.cc/
And .co.nr: http://www.freedomain.co.nr/

For both you can set up your free domain to redirect to a url of your choice, so place your website URL there and you don't need to have awkward sub-domain names like, "yoursite.byethost4.com"

I hope this helps.

Mazz426
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 00:03
Thanks for the help guys, I don't acctually have dreamweaver but it's on my purchases list for the near future, and yes I'm interested in making my own website to showcase my models

Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 00:12
If your pretty new to coding and you cant afford dreamweaver etc... i suggest this its pretty decent for being a FREE WYSIWYG editor.

if you need any help with graphics for the website (buttons, banners or whatever) and your struggling im more than happy to help you and im sure other members will aswell

Were all just one big happy family here at TGC!

bitJericho
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 06:34 Edited at: 28th Jun 2010 06:35
I use http://www.domainsite.com/ for buying domains. I like their interface, and their support is good too.

Quote: "how do you all make the look so professional?"


Practice, and studying. Here's a handy link to professional designs you can totally rip off:

http://patterntap.com/

Quote: "Thanks for the help guys, I don't acctually have dreamweaver but it's on my purchases list for the near future, and yes I'm interested in making my own website to showcase my models"


Good choice, I personally don't use anything but dreamweaver. I recently upgraded to dreamweaver CS5, it's wonderful

Darth Vader
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 13:42
Hey Shaun of the dead do you have an email I can contact you on? It's in regards to website design (Or just email me).

Thanks

Metal Devil123
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 18:33
Quote: "Hey Shaun of the dead do you have an email "

Never in my life I thought I would have heard someone ask that... lol! (Great movie that Shaun of the Dead BTW)

Diggsey
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Posted: 28th Jun 2010 19:09
@Shaun
Should be "logos" not "logo's"

Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 29th Jun 2010 00:05
@Darth Vader
My email should be in my profile. Try shaunread[AT]elusive-design.co.uk

@Diggsey Well, HERE in the northeast we type like that

Travis Gatlin
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Posted: 29th Jun 2010 05:33
use webs.com, no coding required and its free

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The Next
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Posted: 29th Jun 2010 15:07 Edited at: 29th Jun 2010 15:14
I suggest not using a free domain like .co.cc and .co.nr they are very unfriendly to web standards and old browsers wont be able to see your site at all. Not to mention that they will put your search engine ranking right down.

I suggest buying a real TLD for example .com or .co.uk

When designing your site think do you want to be fun or do you want to be very professional take my site for example http://jason-brook.co.uk i have gone for a fun and interactive feel, there are lots of movable JavaScript parts that add a bit of enjoyment to the browsers experience. But i still present what i do in an informative way and i have had many people look at my portfolio and contact me about work so fun does work it depends who your audience is. The trick is to get the balance right.

As for hosting free hosting is great but only takes you so far the limits are quickly noticed once you start trying to build on your site later on. the best site i have found for people with no real web experience to use is http://portfolio.deviantart.com/ it may be basic but its free and does the job for most people, its what i recommend to people on a budget.

As for images i have used many applications over the years but i have found no substitute to Photoshop it is ideal for everything and once you have it there is no going back to other applications.

Hope that was of use to you.


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crispex
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Posted: 29th Jun 2010 18:55
1. Buy a top-level domain. .com, .net, .org, .info, etc. "Free" domains (.tk being the worst, .co.nr, .co.cc, etc.) look crappy, and build literally no site ranking or search engine ranking.

2. Stay away from frames, and tables for designing sites. These build bad habits and are horrible with cross-browser compatibility (otherwise known as web standards).

3. Learn, use, and apply CSS. CSS is the most powerful design element structure to ever be created, anything is virtually possible if you know what you're doing.

4. NEVER use animations, with the exception of hover buttons, even then it must not bee too subtle. Flashing animations, scrolling banners, etc. are all TERRIBLE and unprofessional.

5. Make colors match, and be careful with gradients. Your site shouldn't look like neon / florescent clothing from the 80's. As for gradients, they must be LIGHT, too many times people take drastic gradients from, say, purple to white, that NEVER looks good. If anything, it should go from purple to a lighter shade of purple.

6. Use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation. This one is a MUST if you want to be a professional site / business. Nobody wants to see, "hear at my company u cna get the latest product!!!!"

7. Place your CSS elements in a separate CSS file. This ensures that each page will look the same (unless you define otherwise), and being as CSS is cached in your browser from said file, your site will load quicker.

8. Take it easy on the gloss. A lot of people like the "Web 2.0" look, which basically is misinterpreted as glossy pictures that are shiny and whatnot. This is the #1 issue with people who are starting out in web development, they all make their sites look like a shiny piece of plastic.

9. Make your site easily navigational. Horizontal menu bars are always preferred as opposed to vertical menu bars. NEVER and I repeat NEVER make a menu that follows down as you scroll down a page, these are the most annoying, and generally considered one of the most unprofessional design structures.

10. Know your limits. Don't say to yourself that you will develop the next Yahoo or MSN, or even TGC. Chances are if you say this to yourself, you'll find it's time consuming and isn't easy, so you'll get discouraged and give up. Start slow, take your time, and learn. Ask questions. Many web developers are nice and often are willing to help starters, as we're a kind-nature people.

I just now realized I've had a typo in my signature for the past 3 years.
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Posted: 29th Jun 2010 21:16
Great advice in this thread. If you want people to find the website, I would recommend thinking about that before working on it too. Learning about search engine optimisation will help so that you can then think about what words in the search engines you will want people to find your site under

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Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 30th Jun 2010 22:03
Ive had an email or two from some people asking for design ideas/help. If anyone else needs help just email me using the email on my profile

Fatal Berserker
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Posted: 5th Jul 2010 17:37
i use ULMB or http://www.unlimitedmb.com/, its really good, they have a few problems like i cant allow random people to upload material to the site (which i guess is good anyway).

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