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Metal Devil123
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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 18:18 Edited at: 27th Jul 2010 10:27
So yeah, the title pretty much says what this thread is about. There is alot of movies that are very much hated and got bad reviews. So I am gonna list a few of them and hope to see your opinions. So let's start:

Godzilla (1998 American Version)
Being a huge Godzilla fan, it would make sense for me to hate this. The Godzilla looks nothing like Godzilla and the Godzilla's babies are like the raptors from Jurassic Park. There is other stuff too but they are just some minor stuff. Well I don't like it as a Godzilla film, but I do like it as a general monster movie. It's not godzilla, but it entertains me. Ofcourse it doesen't compete with the original bigger, fire breathing kick ass Godzilla, but it's an entertaining monster movie. But the mistake is, that they slapped the name Godzilla in it.

Transformers (from Michael Bay)
Now I don't know what is so bad about this movie, but many people seem to hate it (yes, the second one too). It got big robots fighting, big battles, shooting, explosions and all that stuff. What's so wrong about it? It's an action movie by Michael Bay, what were you expecting, the reason of life? It's an awesome action movie. The effects are good, there is tons of action and not a single ugly woman on the screen. This all applies to the Revenge of the Fallen too.

Hulk (2003 one)
What a shocker! Someone likes this movie! Well I do. I can't really explain why, but for some reason I do. I saw it as a small kid the first time and liked it then. I saw it recently again and... it was good. Not as great as I remember, but pretty good. Yes I like the new one too, but for some reason, I like this one better. Not really sure myself why, but I do. Sure the effects are quite bad and there is not as much fights as in hte newer one, but still. It's good. You can all disagree, but I like this movie and am very proud of it!

Land of the Dead
No need to put any info up there, bacouse everyone knows this one. Where ever I go and see videos about this movie or some other talk about it, the running theme seems to be it sucks. I don't know why. I think it's an entertaining zombie movie. It got it's creepy parts, cool action-y parts and generally good parts. I especially like the scene when they come out from the water. That was kinda creepy for me and I... well don't like beaches and that didn't make it any better. Sure it's not as scary as the cave scene from Day of the Dead or so, but it was still very good. It's not as good as the older ones (Night, Dawn, Day), but even you can agree that it beat Diary of the Dead's (wich I kinda like, but not that much) and Day of the Dead remake's (just plain horrible) ass.

House of the Dead
Whaaaa!? How?? Well hear me first before you start saying anything! This movie is horrible! It's awful, it's stupid, it's... everything possible!!! But why is it here? Well, it's so bad nad stupid that it's acually pretty good. Don't understnad? It's like putting Good---Bad and under the bad, you put another Good---Bad meter... And it goes on the good there. It's so bad... But! Why think it's so bad that it's actually good is, becouse it's so dumb! It's so stupid, that you just can't help but lauhging... and becouse it's so stupid it makes me laugh, I actually am entertained. It makes me laugh! I mean... I didn't think Alone in the Dark was as bad as this... but it was bad. Just bad... no, it wasn't funny stupid, it was just bad... that's why I like this more than Alone in the Dark... this was just too dumb...

Alien vs. Predator (1&2)
The same case with Transformers. They are both hated, but the second more than first. But enough from that. The first:
It was an ok movie. It was no masterpiece, but it has Aliens and Predators fighting eachother! I think that the fact that the places are constantly changing made it even more exciting (altho the movie wasn't THAT exciting). It was good, but not that rememorable. I like it thou. It can't top the original Aliens and Predator movies, but it was still quite fun to watch. And I like that they did as much as they can without computer. I especially like the part where the whole place starts to collapse. And then the second;
This movie was good, but I hate one thing more than anything else in it: The goddamn teenagers!!! Why? Why do teenagers need to go into every horror movie out there? And not only that, most of them were very annoying! Not as annoying as the god awful teens in [REC] 2, but still. Other than that fact, the movie was really good. The Predator was cool, just fighting off the Aliens, it was very superior to them in this movie. Altho I propably like aliens more than Predator, but in this one, the Predator kicked the Alien's ass! Altho I like how the aliens killed almost all the teens... But it was really cool. I like the Predalien, wich was like the connection to the first movie. The effects were once again great, but I think I liked the first one better. Propably becouse.... you quessed it! The god damn annoying teens!

Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Again, I like this movie, altho the 1st one is far superior to it, but this was good in my opinion. The effects were good, the action was ok and the story was enough good to keep me watching. Yes, it could have been done better, but it's good as it is now. If you liked the first one, you will maby like this one too. Maby! As the first one is many times better than this. But I didn't like the whole wedding propblem thing going on, as it just... it just didn't work for me. The movie could have done without all that going on. That was propably the only thing that annoyed me in this. The rest is fine. It's not great, but it's not bad eather.

The Giant Claw
Oh, the infamous Giant Claw with it's stupid looking monster, bad effects and stock footage! It's just too lovable! It's funny, it's weird, it's stupid, it FRIGGIN AWESOME! A giant bird from outer space, wiht an invisible power shield... doesen't sound bad to me. Seriously, this is an awesome movie, and I recommend everyone to watch it, just becouse it's supposed to be taken seriously, when it's... well, like it is. Just googel it, and look at any picture you see the bird in. Hilarious, but cool. Thank lord for small budgets!

Those were the ones I can remember right now, I will update when time goes by Post and tell me what you think!

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Batman & Robin, with Clooney and Arnie.


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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 18:34 Edited at: 6th Jul 2010 18:35
Quote: "Batman & Robin,"

Great movie.

Movies that I hate, but everyone seems to love:
Napoleon Dynamite
Superbad

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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 18:41
The Cell, starring J-Lo
It's a dark and interesting thriller, with awesome, disturbing visuals. Best Lopez movie, although I don't think I've seen any others.

I find that my favorite movies are held in quite high esteem, yet my brothers completely disagree - like A Clockwork Orange, even Aliens!

It's pretty bad when nobody even wants to see Predators. The humanity!


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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 19:19
Quote: "Transformers (from Michael Bay)
Now I don't know what is so bad about this movie, but many people seem to hate it (yes, the second one too). It got big robots fighting, big battles, shooting, explosions and all that stuff. What's so wrong about it? It's an action movie by Michael Bay, what were you expecting, the reason of life? It's an awesome action movie. The effects are good, there is tons of action and not a single ugly woman on the screen. This all applies to the Revenge of the Fallen too. "

I can't say I've seen a lot of people bash on the first one. A lot of people hated the second one because of the cheesey story line.
I loved 'em both.

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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 19:25
Quote: "Batman & Robin"


You don't mean this do you? Was terrible IMO, was just a poor attempt to milk the franchise even more. I don't know why they added two characters that couldn't even save themselves let alone anyone else.
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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 19:27
Yeah I mean that. Stop hatin'


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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 19:32
Batman & Robin?! Are you all crazy? That movie was so bad, it turned up HERE.

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This is the thread where you list films that very few people like. I can see it is working, yes?


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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 19:56
Quote: "Batman & Robin?! Are you all crazy? That movie was so bad, it turned up HERE."

Heh, gotta love Notsalgia Critic. But he also bashed Godzilla and as the Bum, even District 9. Not saying I hate him, I love that guy, but we have our opinions. And alot of movies appear there. It doesen't mean that if a movie appears there, everyone should think it's bad. No, not at all.
Quote: "This is the thread where you list films that very few people like. I can see it is working, yes?"

Yes, altho the intention was to list films you like, but teh majority doesen't.

Quote: "I can't say I've seen a lot of people bash on the first one. A lot of people hated the second one because of the cheesey story line.
I loved 'em both."

I've seen people bash both. 2nd more than the first. I've seen alot of people bash all Michael Bay's movies, but I see nothing wrong with them. Only thing is, they could have added the original theme to the end credits or something.

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Matrix: Reloaded? I struggled to get through revolutions though. Nonetheless, I don't understand what people have against number two when they say "There is only one Matrix film".
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I liked Waterworld and The Postman and still do. I know that a lot of people don't like these movies. I guess they have their reasons, but I have mine for liking them.

Quote: "Movies that I hate, but everyone seems to love:
Napoleon Dynamite
Superbad"


I liked Superbad, but I did not like Napoleon Dynamite at all.

Quote: "The Cell...A Clockwork Orange...Aliens!...Predators"

The Cell was awesome. The horse scene was super crazy. A Clockwork Orange was a neat movie, but my friends ruined it by wanting to watch it over and over and over. It got really old, really fast. Aliens... well, there is a reason I left the exclamation mark!!!! Great movie. Predators... Looks super cool. I just hope it is not super campy.

I thought I would also mention the first Starship Troopers. I loved that movie.

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Waterworld is another one, I've seen that 6 or 7 times. I was being mocked just the other day because I was watching it again, it was on TV, not like I even own the DVD. I can pretty much watch anything with Dennis Hopper in it though, he's hollywood royalty. I watched the Postman, but can't really remember much about it.

If you like Zombie movies, then the best recent one I've seen is Zombieland, except maybe for the part with Bill Murray, that was cheesy as hell.


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Quote: "
Transformers (from Michael Bay)
Now I don't know what is so bad about this movie, but many people seem to hate it (yes, the second one too). It got big robots fighting, big battles, shooting, explosions and all that stuff. What's so wrong about it? It's an action movie by Michael Bay, what were you expecting, the reason of life? It's an awesome action movie. The effects are good, there is tons of action and not a single ugly woman on the screen. This all applies to the "


now this was a good movie except for one thing...

where is the robot action? i saw some at the ending but thats about it, and it wasnt even good made....
the plot and how they put it all together was good just i missed some more robot action.


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Posted: 6th Jul 2010 22:55 Edited at: 6th Jul 2010 22:56
Gigli, this got panned so bad I don't think anyone actually watched it but I thought it was pretty darn funny.

Batman and Robin I can't stand they ruined Bane, had way to many bad guys that none of them were done well. Aside from the neon on everything the one that really got me was when Robin crashes through the wall on his bike and the hole is shaped like a huge robin.

The Fifth Element, one of my favorite movies that everyone seems to hate if not for Chris Tucker's character the movie would be #1 on my list.

Daredevil, sometimes I think people just hate on Ben Affleck films the movie was pretty good and but for 2 points would be great. Bullseye demanding a costume? what the hell was that and the Kingpin got taken down to easy I can't believe he didn't have a fall guy or some way to escape.

Godzilla I liked.

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Quote: " and it wasnt even good made...."

You mean the epic fight with Optimus and Megatron? I thought it was awesome!! Only thing was that it was maby filmed too close at points, but it was still awesome as hell!
Quote: "Daredevil"

I loved that movie! I never looked so much into it, so never thought it was hated, butI loved it!

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I loved Transformers. People simply hate the idea that a crappy toy cartoon (namely, the toys were pretty epic), got made into a feature film by someone who likes explosions.

Movies everyone likes that I can't really see why:

-Superbad.
-Napoleon Dynamite.
-Borat. (This was BY FAR the worst film I've ever seen.)
-Twilight. (We can all agree on this one.)
-Avatar. (All flashy effects, overused storyline, you can tell this film was made solely for 3D effects and great animation, otherwise it's a real disappointment.)

Great movies that deserve the praise they got:

-Shawshank Redemption.
-The Dark Knight.
-Toy Story (All of them, saw the new one, surely is great just like the rest.)
-American History X.
-Saving Private Ryan.
-Letters From Iwo Jima. (Didn't get much attention from the U.S. or Europe, but one of the best films I've ever seen.)
-Gran Torino.
-All the Bourne movies.

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Quote: "Zombieland"


THIS.

I'm not normally a fan of that sort of film, but I was so entertained when I saw Zombieland for the first time. I watched it again a few days later, and now want to watch it again.

Personally, though, I rather liked the part with Bill Murray...

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some great movies in this thread! Here's the ones i agree are good that I've heard criticized
Daredevil
The Fifth Element
the postman
waterworld
starship troopers
ALL the matrix movies (errm, the three main ones. I agree that they're all good.)
and Ima add "the princess bride" to this list; even though i've never heard it seriously criticized, it seems to me to run along the same vein as these other movies.
AVP (I've heard horrible review of this, but I loved the movie. Predator is also good, but everyone loves predator. Predator 2= BARF)

wow, I think I'm gonna need to go and rent starship toopers


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Quote: "-Superbad."

I actually liked this one, wich was kinda suprising. You see, I always hated such movies as Borat or all the Scary movies, Epic movie, Disaster movie, Superhero movie and all the other "movie" movies. I thought this is going to be another dumb comedy, but I actually liked it
Quote: "-Twilight. (We can all agree on this one.)"

I didn't like it, but I think I am not the right person to bash it. I think it was made for quite different audience than me. The second one wasn't so bad, altho it was still quite bad. The werewolfs could turn into wolfs when ever they want? No full moon needed??
Quote: "-Avatar."

I don't see what's wrong with this one? Sure, I think it was overhyped, but I think it was good. It was a masterpiece when you look at the effects, but I don't think it was so great otherwise. But I still enjoyed it. I thought it was great.
Quote: "-The Dark Knight."

WORD! This was just awesome! At first I was ready to hate the new Joker, it was nothing like the original one from Batman and Joker, but I loved it!
Quote: "-Saving Private Ryan."

Good, but I think it's overrated...
Quote: "AVP "

Yeah, I liked this one too. Altho I didn't hear so muuch bad about this than the second one. I think the second one was great too, but it was ruined by the god damn teenagers.. Why do they need to be pushed in every single horror movie. Rec 2 did the same mistake. Why the teenagers? They were compeletely pointless!!

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Quote: "I liked Waterworld and The Postman and still do. I know that a lot of people don't like these movies. I guess they have their reasons, but I have mine for liking them. "


I love those movies too. Generally when everybody hates a movie I know I'm going to love it. Another great movie that everybody hates is Battlefield Earth.

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As cheesy as it was, I did like Bill Murray's cameo. But then again, I love Bill Murray. With the mentions of Zombieland, I figure I'll mention Defendor. I thought the movie was awesome. It had some funny parts, but it was actually pretty serious.

Here are a few more that I think I'll mention that might fit the "Movies I like, but others don't"

A Beautiful Mind
Cinderella Man
Pi (took a few years for me to watch it after the first dreadful time, but I did finally enjoy it)
Magnolia (I actually despise this movie,.. but all my friends love it. )
Cube
Legend
Trainspotting
Cashback
Almost Famous
Dazed and Confused

And here are a few TV shows I like that no one else seemed to:
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
Xena
Farscape
Kindred: The Embraced
Heroes

Quote: "wow, I think I'm gonna need to go and rent starship toopers "

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Quote: "A Beautiful Mind"


Yeah it was only constantly heralded as one of the best movies of all time and won an academy award or 2, no one liked it. I thought it was ok but no where near as good as everyone said it was.

Quote: "And here are a few TV shows I like that no one else seemed to:
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
Xena"


Farscape never really got its due but herc and Xena, especially Xena, are you serious?? These were HUGE! Ran into toy lines, shirts, magazines, comics, trading cards, mugs, and a gazillion other products. When they were hot I was the manager of a collectibles store and could not keep anything from those shows on the shelves.

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Quote: "are you serious??"

wut//!? Nah, I mostly mean the people I surround myself with. (friends, family, etc.)

I thought A Beautiful Mind was awesome and I think it deserved the awards, but it is slow and boring to some. My mom likes it, but none of my brothers or friends do. They think it is uber boring. But then again, my friends like SLC: Punk, and I don't care for it too much.

I just always assumed Hercules and Xena were more for fanboys and girls. My friends made loads of fun of me for liking these (and my wife still does when I netflix an episode or two.) So to get around this, me and one of the girls in our clique used to watch them together over the phone late at night and never tell anyone. Which is weird because we all used to play the heck out of some AD&D, Vampire, Werewolf, Changeling, Paranoia, etc. so I didn't really understand why they made so much fun of it. Then, when Jack of All Trades came out, they loved it (I thought it was mostly lame. Mostly.) I guess it was more of an image thing for them since Bruce Campbell was in it. Which didn't make sense because he made appearances in the other(s) (Not sure about Xena. I wasn't as much of a fan as I was of Hercules.)

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i love twilight series
i love twilight series
i love twilight series
1 million times later
i love twilight series

[MOD EDIT] - Jeez, you and the twilight series should get a room!

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Because sparkling teenage vampires and werewolves with free will totally makes a good film... if you're a teenage girl.


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I'm not one who pays attention to movie reviews, but I know this much.

Bad movies that are liked:
Twilight (I saw the trailer and I wanted to die.)
Iron Man 2
Paranormal Activity
Avatar (Oh my gosh I despised this movie)

Good movies that are disliked:
AVP

Top ten good movies (IMO) that are liked:
1. Bourne Identity
2. Bourne Supremacy
3. Bourne Ultimatum
4. Inglorious Basterds
5. Zombieland
6. Boondock Saints #1
7. Boondock Saints #2
8. Terminator #1
9. Terminator #2
10. Termination #4 (Salvation)

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Quote: "Iron Man 2"

That was fun mindless action! Sure it was nowhere near than the first one, and it was kinda stupid when Tony is just a party animal and such, but I found this one real good.
Quote: "Avatar (Oh my gosh I despised this movie)"

Why do you dispite it?
Quote: "Because sparkling teenage vampires and werewolves with free will totally makes a good film... if you're a teenage girl."

Someone should totally make a vampire/werewolf movie that puts those two awesome characters back to their places... You know, like ripping hearts out and such... Twilight should have been more like Dog Soldiers vs Nosferatu (why can't I think of any other decent vampire film?). Now that would have been amazing!!!

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Quote: "Personally, though, I rather liked the part with Bill Murray..."


Oh really? That was what killed Zombieland for me. It was too sappy with the romance, and the Bill Murray part was way over the top. Mind you, it is a zombie movie, so it's not meant to be realistic, but Zombieland had such a great first half and buildup. Too bad it got really lame by the end.


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Quote: "Someone should totally make a vampire/werewolf movie that puts those two awesome characters back to their places"


I really enjoyed the Underworld movies and they kind of fit that description... Also, even though it wasn't really a 'vampire' movie, I thoroughly enjoyed Ravenous. It's more about eating people and taking their life force or something along those lines.

The thing that I didn't like about Zombieland was the women... they just kept stealing cars and being jerks throughout the movie. I got tired of their shenanigans, quickly. As for Bill Murray... I just love Bill Murray. From Where the Buffalo Roam to Caddyshack to Groundhog Day to The Life Aquatic. And everything before, between and after. I am also excited for Ghostbusters 3!

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Hehe, sorry, I may have edited Winds post...

Anyhoo, I think that to get a good vampire movie, you have to go back a good decade at least. Blade was pretty great, but the best vampire movie ever is Lost Boys, it's my favorite 80's teen film.


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I liked dracula 2000

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@ Metal Devil

Quote: "I feel that they just didn't cut it with Iron Man 2. They just took some action, with a horrible plot, and a total change of the first movie.

For one, the radiation killing Iron Man didn't seem like a good enough of a reason to be part of the plot. They just said "Hmm, Iron Man is overpowered, so lets randomly throw in this radiation thats killing him and is rarely ever mentioned in the movie!

Also, Stark's personality was TOTALLY changed in the second movie. I mean, it's like taking Batman from Dark Knight and changing his personality to the guy from Zohan.

I guess the action was alright though. Still wasn't good as the first movie, but it still did a small part of keeping it from being a total failure."



Quote: "And Avatar?
Horrible plotline. A new planet. Yay. Evil old president trying to kill innocent creatures. How many movies have done this?
Pretty much NO 3D (Depsite me using the glasses in 3D theater!)

But the thing is, theres nothing good about it either. Action wasn't great, drama was just plain annoying, at least Iron Man 2 had some good action and at least a somewhat decent plotline. The last thing that, after killing it, destroyed the corpse of this movie, was the critics. I mean, people at the end of the movie actually CLAPPED. This just blew it. How could somebody like such a movie?"


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I was actually shocked at VanB. For years i've had to put up with teases about waterworld, heralded as the lowest point of Kevin Costners career, where I think it might have been his highest, I love it.

Batman and Robin is awesome, I will watch anything with Arnie in, but the film is full of cheese, sub par acting and cheesy lines. It's on the same lines of being so bad its good, like Snakes on a train.
Kindergarten Cop was also awesome, and may you burn in hell if you disagree.

Twilight is awful, I have had the displeasure of watching the film and also reading half the book (just to see what the fuss is about). On a story side, it is a very typical "forbidden love" story and everything else about it is dire. Stephanie Meyers can't write to save her life and whoever directed the first film, can't direct to save her life. I'm not a fan of vampire stories, werewolf stories or vampire vs werewolf stories, but I put this aside for the film and I still hated it...

Avatar was enjoyable, but it was over hyped, enough said on that.

There are plenty of other films I love that everyone seems to hate, but these stick out in my mind.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 03:46
I love comedy but sadly I despise most comedy movies. My favorite comedy, Oscar, seems to be one of those really hated movies yet I will laugh hard enough to make my eyes water every time I see it. I guess people panned it because it had Stallone in a comedy roll.

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Quote: "...it is a zombie movie, so it's not meant to be realistic, but Zombieland had such a great first half and buildup. Too bad it got really lame by the end."


I thought that was the point of it... To be utterly lame and yet still have some zombie awesomeness left in it.

I tend to agree that the Bill Murray part was overly "romantic" as you put it. But because it was so cheesy and over-the-top, I loved it. I have a strange sense of humor though (I work at a Renaissance Faire during the summer ).

Quote: "The thing that I didn't like about Zombieland was the women... they just kept stealing cars and being jerks throughout the movie. I got tired of their shenanigans, quickly. "


Yeah, same here. THAT was over-the-top.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 10:07
@Monkey Mja: Well, yeah, maby... but I take Iron Man as an entertaining pop-corn movie. Yes, the first one was like 100 times better, but this was... actually fun. I enjoyed watching, even if it was stupid. I think it was stupid, but if it wanted itself to be taken seriously and it was exactly like this... then I would be like what the hell...

And Avatar? I agree it's not the best movie that exists, but... well it was really good. It wasn't a masterpiece everyone keeps saying that it is, but I enjoyed the action. Atleast the last big battle I think was quite amazing. The drama... well, I don't know, it's usually hard for me to spot where you are supposed to cry and where not... But I thought it was a very good movie, altho it was overhyped.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 10:39
Your supposed to cry at the end of ET when your 5, after that, it's not a good idea to cry at any movie .

The Bill Murray part could have been better...


For me, the best thing about Zombieland is that it's not a flimsy, low budget embarrasment, like about a dozen of the recent zombie films released. It's a fun, teen style zombie movie with a reasonably happy ending. It just doesn't mess with the zombie formula, slow, funny zombies dying in epic ways, what's not to like.


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Quote: "Your supposed to cry at the end of ET when your 5, after that, it's not a good idea to cry at any movie."


Heh. One of my friends cried at the end of King Kong. That was funny.
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Quote: "Your supposed to cry at the end of ET when your 5, after that, it's not a good idea to cry at any movie"

My mom cried at the end of ET and I was like... what? Why are you crying? Big eyed ugly alien goes back to it's home planet in weird disco spaceship... (disco for all the lights)

I should really see this Zombieland... oh and I updated the list.

And I really liked ET. But I just didn't find anything sad in the end...

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 13:57
Quote: "but the best vampire movie ever is Lost Boys, it's my favorite 80's teen film."


YES! No-one else I know has seen that movie - my mum even named my husky Nanook

Also, Twilight...yehh...Underworld is also good, although the sequel was pretty bad...

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 14:06 Edited at: 9th Jul 2010 14:15
Spongebob Squarepants the Movie, it's genius, but most of my friends mock me for it, except obviously the handful that enjoy it.

I suppose Anchor Man is another, although I know a lot of people that like it, but there's a certain circle that detest Will Ferral and I'm a part of it...except with Anchor Man of course.

Twilight on the other hand, yes, terrible, in terms of the 'Vampire' genre, there's so much better and more gripping stuff, that has better characterisation, plot and fewer cliche romance moments. It's successful because it manages to be a teenage girl's wet dream, but it is fundamentally flawed. Basically, it's a successful Mills and Boon novel...I had the displeasure of having such horrible friends buy me Mills and Boon for my birthday and they are God-awful!

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I enjoyed Lost Boys as well, a good film methinks. In terms of romanticised vampires, I'd have to go for Interview With A Vampire, whilst not really falling into the category of romance, but the characters are still romanticised, as I'm sure many female audience members would love Lestat to hold them and stroke their hair. Or Loius if they're after the more sensitive caring type.


However, I think this song is appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glNuQiE77E

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 14:27 Edited at: 9th Jul 2010 14:28
Quote: "I tend to agree that the Bill Murray part was overly "romantic" as you put it."


Oh I didn't mean the Bill Murray part was romantic. I was more or less hating on a.) the Bill Murray scenes and b.) the way they tried to shove the romance into the movie.




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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 17:48
Ahh. Snakes on a train. I only watched a few miniutes of that movie, but it was enough to prove the epicness of the movie. I got to see the part with the guy in the bathroom. All of you that saw the movie knows what happens next xD

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 19:30
Quote: "I got to see the part with the guy in the bathroom"

So you saw a guy in the bathroom and decided that it's automatically a good movie... you should really start fully watching movies...

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 20:19
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Kind of feels like it. I agree. You don't need a love interest to keep a movie interesting and/or funny. It just feels like a cheap, overused script element that's public domain (like free stock photography).

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Posted: 9th Jul 2010 23:34
Van B, i totally agree! Lost Boys was such a great movie, ahh, they dont make 'em like they used to. Was their a Lost Boys 2? I vaguely remember something like that, and im sure i refused to watch it, knowing it would suck.

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Twilight is awful, I have had the displeasure of watching the film and also reading half the book (just to see what the fuss is about). On a story side, it is a very typical "forbidden love" story and everything else about it is dire. Stephanie Meyers can't write to save her life and whoever directed the first film, can't direct to save her life. I'm not a fan of vampire stories, werewolf stories or vampire vs werewolf stories, but I put this aside for the film and I still hated it..."


now the fact that you didnt like the book, nor the story doesnt mean she cannoy write, she is a very good writer and the books are very well written. the fact that you don't like the story doesnt have anything to do with how good of a writer she is.

the first movie is worthless, and even i who read and loved all the books didnt understand much of it, the second movie was better and the third one is acually an okay movie


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Posted: 10th Jul 2010 02:04 Edited at: 10th Jul 2010 02:07
In terms of writing skill, she's actually quite bad, I'd have to agree with Stephen King on that matter. There are some quite fundamental flaws in her writing, but what Stephanie Meyer has been strong with isn't good writing, making good characters or conjuring up a strong plot, but rather appealing to a young audience, I can kudos her for that, because it's not always easy to do it, as much as it pains me to say it. But then, I aim my writing for an older audience and haven't really tried myself to write something suitable for younger ages.

In reading what I've read, it isn't that much better than Mills and Boon, which are quite low for writing quality, but in pleasing an audience, well, the Mills and Boon model is very successful.

If both Twilight books sell and manage to entertain its audience successfully, then something Meyer is doing is right. I even know Twilight fans who'll say, "I love the story, hence I prefer the film, as the books aren't very well written."


I think what Twilight hatred comes down do is that something that hasn't been well written, with poor characterisation and plot manages to be so successful in the market and that it is representative of kitsch. Though, that's the way the market goes sometimes, it's the same with music.

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Quote: "the fact that you don't like the story doesnt have anything to do with how good of a writer she is."


Ummm...yes it does.

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