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Geek Culture / Maybe Dark Physics isn't cheating...

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Braude Interactive
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Posted: 7th Aug 2010 14:36
A few years ago I put a post up here about Dark Physics, claiming it was cheating. It sparked quite a row, went to four pages and then got locked. I certainly looked a bit of a fool by the end

-I just bought Dark Physics-

Looks like re-inventing the wheel IS counter productive... And I spent SO long learning how to sculpt as well

Just thought I'd share that with you guys, and I'm looking forward to starting to use Dark Physics.
Zotoaster
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Posted: 7th Aug 2010 19:28
As Carl Sagan said, "if you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe". I'm sure you get my point.

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Braude Interactive
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Posted: 17th Aug 2010 17:39
Yup. Well, it's just good to finally look at things logically. Without the emotional draw to be fully self sufficient. We're social creatures after all
Lost in Thought
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Posted: 18th Aug 2010 04:48
Dark Physics is pointless now to me ... it only works on nvidia based cards fully. Games won't work with all other cards. Too limiting for my purposes. But to each his own.

Interplanetary Funk
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Posted: 18th Aug 2010 18:20
Quote: "it only works on nvidia based cards fully"

PhysX is software, it's not really dependant at all on hardware, I run Dark Physics on an ATI radeon graphics card with no problem, and have also installed it on an intel graphics card on my laptop, again without any difficulty. It works on everything as long as you have the right drivers, which aren't hard to find TBH.
n008
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Posted: 19th Aug 2010 00:47
He means you can turn on hardware acceleration for PhysX only with nVidia cards.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Aug 2010 13:56 Edited at: 19th Aug 2010 13:57
Quote: "He means you can turn on hardware acceleration for PhysX only with nVidia cards."


Modern processors are plenty fast enough nowadays where that's not really a concern anymore.

It used to be that Physx wasn't even available to run on hardware even on Nvidia cards. Things are only getting better

Sure you can use a package like Newton, but that only runs in "software". So it's no difference. You could create your own physics software, but that will run only in "software", unless you program your own routines to run on the graphics hardware, but then at that point, your limited to what you program, which I doubt will be better than Physx so I fail to see the point of that statement.

Van B
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Posted: 19th Aug 2010 17:22
That's only really a noticable problem if you are using the hardware specific features, like liquids - which nobody in their right mind would use in a game anyway . I never noticed much difference, going from an older (non-Physx) nVidia card, to an ATI card, then back to a 8800 with Physx.

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BatVink
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Posted: 19th Aug 2010 19:20
PhysX is just like all other physics solutions, with the additional benefit that it can run on relevant hardware.

Lost in Thought
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Posted: 20th Aug 2010 01:01
Actually most of the stuff wouldn't run on my intel or ati cards. The only physx software I can get to install is the really old version. I can't even get the 1.05 update to work at all. Keeps complaining about a driver error on both my non-nvidia based systems. Works fine on my nvidia system though. It's just not compatible enough for me.

gwheycs62egydws
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Posted: 8th Sep 2010 22:41
I have the nvidia card and I could not get it to run until
i downloaded and installed

PhysX_8.09.04_SystemSoftware.exe"
to make the "Dark Physics"

I have the special card but it dose not seem to work
just put a blue light

I've tried to upload and hope it works

there is also an update to it
"PhysX_9.10.0513_SystemSoftware.exe"

one there installed your set to go ;o)

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