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Nilloc
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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 21:24
Do you have any paranormal storys (real or fake?)

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I watched The X-Files.

There's my story involving paranormal events.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 21:45
Quote: "I watched The X-Files."

:-P

I see dead people...


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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 22:27
Well, I did make this little thread a while back:

Ghost in my friends room

And I'll just quote myself from that thread:

There are two reasons why I believe in ghosts. First reason is my grandmother. You could probably argue that she is just old and crazy, but let me tell you anyway. Back in 1970 there was a family that lived here. It was just a husband and wife, and they had one 5 year old child. One day the child went off just to play a bit outside, and he fell into a farming silo and died (Don't ask me how that worked, it's an old story). Anyway, my grandmother was here just 3 years ago, and she said she could here voices from a young child at night. She said the child is about 5-6 years old, but we did not have a child of that age in the house.

She also claims she saw a ghost at the end of her bed when she was 27 years old. It was late at night, and she had the urge to wake up. She did, and found a young lady hovering at the end of her bed. It just hovered there, looking at her, and after half a minute or so, it vanished.

Reason 2 are my experiments with the EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena). Feel free to try this at home too, it's very simple to set up. You get a cassette recorder, you detach the microphone from the recorder, so it cannot pick up any physical tones. You then put in an empty cassette, and record.

After recording the whole cassette, wind back and turn up your speakers to maximum output. Mostly, you will hear nothing. But I managed to pick up something that sounded like whispering, footsteps, and sighs.

If you don't pick up anything, it's best to go to a graveyard or a place where people have died.

Those are the 2 main reasons I believe in ghosts, and that is why I thought of a ghost first when I saw that picture. Maybe I'm wrong with that picture, but I am right with my EVP, and I don't think my grandmother is crazy.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 23:02
Quote: "After recording the whole cassette, wind back and turn up your speakers to maximum output. Mostly, you will hear nothing. But I managed to pick up something that sounded like whispering, footsteps, and sighs."


No doubt you're just amplifying noise that occurs due to impurities on the tape surface, and your brain incorrectly associates them with something.
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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 23:06
A friend of mine kind of tricked me into believing he had a ghost living in his house when I was about 11. Guess I was really gullible back then, because he told me it would bring him food etc XD.

He showed me a doll that this ghost has apparently played with when it was alive and it seemed plausible at the time.

Then one day he told me he got rid of the ghost by walking through it with his hands over his heart and made it sound all spooky. He later told me it was all a hoax and I was "WTF!". It was a good little story while it lasted, but I got tricked .

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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 23:20 Edited at: 9th Aug 2010 23:25
@TheComet:

So if I got this straight you basically came to the conclusion that something as extraordinary as ghosts actually exist because of a few subjective experiences (which is really kinda useless when trying to prove the existence of ghosts as you weren't there in the first place. How are you supposed to come to any other conclusion than an odd one when you're hearing it from a person who couldn't explain it in the first place?).

Now in the case that the experiences should turn out to be true then indeed it would be very frustrating to be the one having experienced it, but you must admit that it is still a whole lot asking another person to believe you when there isn't any reasonable logic of doing so.

Also I don't understand how you could use EVP in itself to conclude the existence of ghosts. EVP when talking paranormal explanations are so extremely far fetched that there is no basis at all to actually consider them to be valid ways of testing it ( after all, how could you possibly explain something that is still unexplained by building a whole lot of nonsense on top of it? )

Sorry if it seems like bashing, it's really not. I'm just trying to understand how you could possibly think ghosts exists based on those two things alone?

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And just to clarify here I'm not saying ghosts do not exist I'm merely stating that so far I haven't had any reason to believe they do.

Also I just saw your own personal thread, and again I can't really say much on that as some people raised valid points against it.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 23:28
Ok, why are you arguing this? He believes in ghosts (I do too) and propably has done so for a long time, so why do you think your whining will stop him?

Why would you think ghosts don't exist? I believe ghosts exist, but I don't think they are like hollywood presents them.


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Posted: 9th Aug 2010 23:34 Edited at: 9th Aug 2010 23:45
Quote: "Ok, why are you arguing this? He believes in ghosts (I do too) and propably has done so for a long time, so why do you think your whining will stop him?"


Why exactly are you calling my post whining? I was simply curious as to why he chosed to belive in ghosts in the first placed based on those points. What's your problem with that? What, is it suddenly off the chart to ask questions and raise valid points? I'm not trying to stop him, so stop putting words in my mouth. Try to understand my post instead.

Quote: "Why would you think ghosts don't exist? I believe ghosts exist, but I don't think they are like hollywood presents them."


I will tell you why, because there is no officially scientific evidence to support that they do. But the main reason must be that I have never in my life experienced anything of the sorts that would lead be to think otherwise. Remember that believing ghosts do not exist does NOT equal refusing their existance ( absense of evidence is not evidence of absence). That would be stupid.

If you have your own personal experiences then that is more than fine. If I truly had personal experiences relating to paranormal activities then I could understand the frustration of trying to explain it to people. So if pure personal experience is your reason then that is fine, and I don't have any problem with that. But choosing to believe in such a big claim with questionable techniques and other peoples stories is a bit much, I think

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 00:14
Metal Devil123,

I wouldn't call it "whining". Seems like a very reasonable post to me. Maybe you're accusing him of whining because you have no reasonable reply to what he said? After all, all the evidence for ghosts comes from the same types of sources as hoaxes - people with their cameras.

Now, I can't prove to you they don't exist, because they are not falsifiable. That's a pretty bad thing when it comes to knowing what's true and what's not, because if you can't prove something doesn't exist, then chances are it was made up. I can't prove Santa doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean he's real!

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 00:39
Quote: "She also claims she saw a ghost at the end of her bed when she was 27 years old. It was late at night, and she had the urge to wake up. She did, and found a young lady hovering at the end of her bed. It just hovered there, looking at her, and after half a minute or so, it vanished."


Could quite possibly have been sleep paralysis, where you wake up but your body is still in sleep mode, and so may hullcinate and not be able to physically move.
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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 00:54
Funnily enough nobody has yet said what they think a ghost IS so saying 'I do/don't believe in ghosts' is completely meaningless until you first say what they are

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:02 Edited at: 10th Aug 2010 01:07
There are plenty of things that could very well be true, that only exist because of belief and have a complete lack of evidence. Ghosts, vampires, even God (Or whatever your religion calls him). It's just that sometimes people take those beliefs too far and can do pretty stupid things.

Quote: "But I managed to pick up something that sounded like whispering, footsteps, and sighs."


Whatever kind of noise that was only sounded like those things, as you said. Getting background noise on old technology is hardly a paranormal experience.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:08 Edited at: 11th Aug 2010 02:13
I agree with The Nerd. I personally do not believe in ghosts, but I know a few who does but they can't really prove it, they have their stories only. I won't believe in things or accept theories as true until I have scientific proof, otherwise it feels so unsure. If I, by chance, will experience something paranormal in the future, I might reconsider and accept the existence of ghosts as valid, or whatever else the situation was about.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:16
Quote: "If I, by chance, will experience something paranormal in the future, I might reconsider and accept the existence of ghosts as valid, or whatever else the situation was about."


Occam's razor. What's the simplest answer? You're hallucinating, or the ghosts actually exist?

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:22 Edited at: 10th Aug 2010 01:23
Quote: "Funnily enough nobody has yet said what they think a ghost IS so saying 'I do/don't believe in ghosts' is completely meaningless until you first say what they are"


Yes, another very excellent point that should be taken up. There is so many ideas worldwide of what ghosts specifically are and are not. The thing is, saying that you do/do not believe in ghosts is a very broad statement, so I suppose it would be a lot better to describe it as paranormal activity to cover it in a broader term ( but then again that doesn't really do a good job since that could be a whoole lot of things, including things science just do not comprehend yet ).

Normally when I go into these sorts of discussions people claim ghosts to be spirits of dead people being projected into our dimensions, or some sort of dead person who... simply just haunts. Actually many, many different claims, but it all stems back to the idea that it is some sort of dead person now here for one reason or another. Or the wiki description:

Quote: " "In folklore, fiction, philosophy, and popular culture, a ghost is the soul or spirit of a deceased person, taken to be capable of appearing in visible form or otherwise manifesting itself to the living." "


I think that sums up the general idea pretty good

However what I never hear in any discussion is what ghosts should consist of in form of things we already know, or if it is just something that still is completely ungraspable by science.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:28
Quote: "Occam's razor. What's the simplest answer? You're hallucinating, or the ghosts actually exist?"


That's actually a good question and I did take hallucination into account when I wrote my last post, I should have pointed that earlier out but oh well. ^^

It depends on how "real" it is. For instance, if it's only a shady figure passing by, or an unexplainable sound, then It's probably a hallucination. But if physical objects are moving on their own, I think I'll lean towards the paranormal theory.

It's hard to answer because of my limited knowledge on the matter. I want to believe in ghosts and the likes, it's just that I need evidence that they do exist, otherwise it feels like I'm fooling myself.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 01:33 Edited at: 10th Aug 2010 01:34
Quote: " But if physical objects are moving on their own, I think I'll lean towards the paranormal theory."


Sorry to use your post for this example, but it also brings up another very interesting question. If you see a physical object move on its own, why exactly would it have to be ghosts? Now I know you described it as paranormal activity which includes.. basically everything of these sorts we don't understand, but just to use it as an example.

When people say they see these things happen, why exactly would it have to be the concept of a ghost? ( using the definition I described above ). I mean it is just as likely to be some sort of odd force that there isn't understood just as it is likely to be an invisible unicorn out to get ya, or an entirely other concept Or to say it in other words, it is what it is, unexplainable, and from there on you could basically let the imagination run wild.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 03:23
Interesting and true story - the ghost of Anne Bolyne that haunts her castle began haunting it before she had even been beheaded...

So either it was a hoax - or death isn't a cause.

Some scientists speculate ghosts are actually the results of fractures in time's progression, like a scratch on a record, that creates a vague rendition of the same event repeatedly...

Poltergeists, of course, are probably bull.

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Quote: "Some scientists speculate ghosts are actually the results of fractures in time's progression, like a scratch on a record, that creates a vague rendition of the same event repeatedly..."


Yeah, ok, then why do we see a repetition of what happened at 4pm at 5pm. I don't think time works like that. Besides, even if it did, why are they "ghostly" and not the same solid objects they used to be? This isn't science if it doesn't have done testable hypothesis.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 03:43
Quote: "Some scientists speculate ghosts"


Didn't say it was an official theory.

And the 24 hour day is a concept created by man, who says time loops back around in the same length of time?

I don't believe this theory by the way, just thought it'd be an interesting one to throw in there...

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 08:40
Quote: "Why exactly are you calling my post whining"

I felt like it.
Quote: "I wouldn't call it "whining"."

Well, then that's you, I did and do I regret it? No. And my point was:
Quote: "He believes in ghosts (I do too) and propably has done so for a long time, so why do you think your whining will stop him? "

You can replace the word "whining" with some other word if you find it so offensive...


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I'm sorry, but giving a scientific response is purely objective. Whining is subjective. You're wrong mate, but since you really don't want to see ghosts proven wrong since I suspect you just want to believe in them, I'll leave you too it.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 12:41
Quote: "I'm sorry, but giving a scientific response is purely objective. Whining is subjective. You're wrong mate, but since you really don't want to see ghosts proven wrong since I suspect you just want to believe in them, I'll leave you too it."

Well, becouse of my bad english, I don't know how I would say anything I would like to say, but if it means we can shut up about it, then ok. You can live happily ever after, thinking what a dumbass that guy is for believing something I don't believe, and I can live happily ever after thinking, I still believe in ghosts and I don't care what you think of me for doing so.


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This is a story thread, some of you are far to serious for your own good. Stop moaning over the fact that ghosts exist or not and read the damn stories.

If you want to moan and whine about ghosts, go make a new thread and hopefully get banned for it so I an others do not have to read your little whiny rants about if ghosts exist.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 13:57 Edited at: 11th Aug 2010 00:22
This thread is about Paranormal Stories not about who does and doesn't believe in ghosts, any more and not only will this thread be locked, but those involved will be slapped.



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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 15:38
Quote: "In folklore, fiction, philosophy, and popular culture, a ghost is the soul or spirit of a deceased person, taken to be capable of appearing in visible form or otherwise manifesting itself to the living."


According to that definition, there must be thousands of ghosts even if only a small fraction of people become them. Surely one at some time or other would have shown itself in a situation where there could be no doubt about its existance, just by probability if not by choice.

Seeing as this has never happened, then how can ghosts exist?

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 15:59
Diggs read Nickydude's post! Don't get slapped!

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Was that done on propose Diggsey? Right after my post as well.

Guess what's going to happen next.



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Isn't this basically adding on to the Freaky Childhood Experiences thread? Anyway, if I had to say one, it would be when I was at a party and suddenly a freezing gust of wind came by, and I instantly hot a coat. No one else was cold, so I stayed and hoped it would eventually go away. It didn't. It got worse and worse until I finally left and outside was twice as cold. Not too freaky, but the worst part was my coat was off. I never took it off, it was just...off. So I went inside and it was on the coat rack. I put it back on, went outside, and it was off again. I went in, put it on, and so on. Eventually I never put it on, held it closely instead, and I successfully got home.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 21:57
My father told me a little story a while back, it was a family dinner (a long time ago, before I was born) and they were about six people there. Then all of a sudden my dad and three of his siblings felt a cold breeze passing by and one of them said something along the lines: "Well, looks like a dead guy just went through the room". The strange thing was that all windows and doors were closed, so they thought it was strange that all of a sudden they (all four at the same time) felt a cold breeze without any apparent reason.

I was really young when he told me this and it kinda creeped me out.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2010 22:00 Edited at: 10th Aug 2010 22:03
Quote: "No doubt you're just amplifying noise that occurs due to impurities on the tape surface, and your brain incorrectly associates them with something."


I must say, I actually almost agree with that. Although your statement is not entirely true.

I recently heard of a random generator experiment. Apparently, a blank tape was recorded just as I described in the second story of mine. The tape was totally blank, and the recorder had no microphone. Then, they randomly picked people from the street and asked them to think of a random position on the recorded tape (for example : I think of position 8m 56s). Take note that at this stage no one had heard the tape recording yet.

After asking 20 people and noting the times they said, the tape was finally listened to. And, very strangely, exactly at the positions the 20 people said, a weird disturbance was detected. It wasn't a voice or anything, but the randomness that usually occurs on a blank tape is slightly altered to a more predictable state.

The result had to do with the quantum theory : Everything is in every possible state, until someone or something observes it. The interesting part of this is that the disturbances were recorded BEFORE the 20 people observed it.

Getting back to the EVP, I think I HEARD voices because I WANTED to hear them. So, based on the above experiment, I wanted to hear them, the tape recorded them, because I observed it. I find that very interesting.

@ The Nerd

Quote: "I will tell you why, because there is no officially scientific evidence to support that they do."


I highlighted the scientific part, because I want to make the point that science and paranormal don't mix. They never mixed, and never will, because they are entirely different universes.

Just out of curiosity, is there any scientific evidence that it doesn't exist?

As to your earlier questions, I am not trying to prove to anyone that ghosts exist. I am just letting you know that I believe that ghosts exist. I always had an open mind, and I have been pulled more into the ghost side of life than the science side of life in the past.

And you are right, it IS hard to tell non-believers about stuff like this, so I really don't care what you believe. If you don't believe it, that's fine with me

And, you're not bashing


Also, I find it good that everyone is going by Immanuel Kant's quotation :
Quote: "Never believe something until you have proven yourself that it is true."


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I don't believe in the paranormal, but I'm perfectly tolerant of anybody's beliefs in the paranormal, so don't get me wrong for the next comment:

Quote: "Just out of curiosity, is there any scientific evidence that it doesn't exist?"


The problem with this statement is that if you give it any credit, then you bring credibility to any kind of claim that we'd normally consider to be untrue. Consider for example: Is there any scientific evidence that minotaurs don't exist? I think there's probably a better defense than that.

The way in which the scientific process works is that it avoids making claims about the unknown. The paranormal remains in the unknown and as long as it remains unknown, we don't know any kind of truth behind it (at least, nothing we can offer any back-up for beyond testimonies). People feel they have some kind of connection with the paranormal and have experienced it in someway and because I haven't experienced it myself, I'll avoid making any statements or claiming that I know anything about people's experiences - although I do have my own views about it (as a skeptic and an old student of psychology). But generally, I'll consider such things to be work of fiction for the same reasons why I consider minotaurs to be fictional.

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@TheComet:

I'd love to keep up the debate, but I'm pretty sure Nickydude wouldn't be very fond of that, haha. So I'll just leave it be.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2010 00:28 Edited at: 11th Aug 2010 00:28
What did I just say 9 posts up? Yet you guys still go on about who does / doesn't believe! If you have a story to tell then great, if you haven't then don't post.

If needs be create another thread about it, but we all know that will only end up getting locked, just as this one is getting close.



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^Fair point.

I think it's not something you're going to solve on a game making forum. I say, leave people to their devices so long as they're not hurting people. How many of us actually walk into Mystic Meg's tent and tell her that she's not talking to dead people? There are plenty of debate forums out there.


However, crawling back in my mind - there was an experience I did have as a kid. In hindsight I don't interpret it as the paranormal, but I did then. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'll post for the sake of keeping on topic. I was round my next door neighbour's house playing Tomb Raider 2 in their front room, and suddenly it became very chilly (not on the account of Lara Croft ), and I felt a spooked, as though something was there. In the middle of the night, when I had gone to bed, I saw a white figure in my room, I was spooked by it. I remember I had left a drink on my window sill, in the morning, there was none left.

I told my parents, they didn't believe me. Funny thing is, years later, my Mum told me of a 'ghost-encounter' she had and I refused to believe it was a ghost. Funny how the tables turn.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2010 00:39
Nickydude, far be it from me to question your role as a moderator, but there's no flaming or anger. What's wrong with a thread taking it's own course if nobody's upset about it? Nothing wrong with a little (interesting) discussion. I'm not looking for a slap here, I'm just saying that the thread is still loosely on topic and nobody's really angry about it since it calmed down a bit.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2010 00:48 Edited at: 11th Aug 2010 01:38
Quote: "nobody's really angry about it since it calmed down a bit."


Since I stepped in.

I'm all for calm debates and yes, while it's all calm now, someone will innocently say something that will be taken out of context, someone will answer, then someone will jump on that answer... See where it's going?

I'd rather leave this thread to paranormal stories (as i've been following the paranormal for 30 years ) and rather not see it locked. Start another thread about the debate, I can easily lock that.



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Debate on this forum can go two ways. People are respectful and of course, we all love it when it happens. Or it gets so heated people start getting personal...or a third way, somebody immature steps in and ruins it completely. I can see why mods are cautious about this, so I suppose it's fair to avoid going off topic and ruining this thread whilst there are people still interested in the topic.

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Exactly Seppuku.



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Back in Ireland the first house I lived in from a baby was apparently haunted. Everyone who stayed in that house saw or heard something freaky!

The house was quite large and it was in an L shape with an old well in the middle that had been filled with concrete due to a kid falling in and dying in it. Good start huh?!

Some of the experiences:
The sound of someone walking down the large upstairs hall at night which had.
My sister and my mother both saw a little girl looking down at them from one of the windows in the hall (right by my old bedroom!); both more than once.

The name 'Mary' was scraped on things from time to time. For example; my mum once opened the washing machine and where some dirt was collecting on the glass bit on the door the name 'Mary' had been scraped into the dirt.

We once had someone stay there who was meant to be staying for the a week but ended up leaving the first morning because she said the house was haunted and she didn't want to spend another night in it.

There some other things but I don't remember them all as I was quite young at the time.



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I posted in the other thread but I'll post here. Not sure if Alien encounters are considered supernatural so I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with the subject. My only paranormal experience occurred when I was about 8 years old and I still remember it very well to this day. Just thinking about it sends shivers down my spine but basically while lying in bed one night I saw the silhouette of an Alien Grey against my curtain. I was too scared to get out of bed for a closer look and so I just closed my eyes and turned away. Now, I know a child's imagination is very vivid but I can't explain what I saw. True, if it really was an Alien then why was it wasting time staring through my window? I don't know why but I do know that this experience makes me believe that there is some truth in other people's paranormal experiences.

Apart from this encounter, both my parents have had similar experiences. I remember this one time my Mum telling me that she once saw several tall Alien figures behind the curtains in her room. I can't tell for sure but I believe this was around the same time I had my own experience. Could both these events of occurred during the same night?

Long ago when my Dad was younger he was driving back with a friend of his at night (Just before night time, when it's still light) and he saw in the sky a cigar shaped object. Within seconds of my Dad seeing this object it zoomed off into the distance and out of sight. He turned to his friend and asked if he had seen the same thing to which he replied "That thing in the sky just now? Yeah, I saw it". Did my Dad and his friend really witness a UFO? My Dad is not the sort of person who lies and makes up stories so I believe what he said to be true.
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I have had an alien encounter to! Infact it scared me to death! I woke up one night laying in my bed with my door shut...I needed to go to the bathroom so I got up and closed my door behind me. I went to the bathroom and got out I went back up my hallway to find my door wide open! There was a grey alien by my bed. Frozen in shock the alien turns around and starts to walk torwards me. Finally I came to my sences and ran to my parents room slaming the door shut! My mom gets up and said it was my "imagenation" and to go back to bed... I layed in my bed covers over my head shaking I finally peak out to find a total of 4 grey aliends in my room one of them comes over with a needel thing and stabs it into me and everything got blury and then the rest is just blackness!

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Sounds like the aliens wanted their way with you XD. But why would you just let them stab you with an unknown object, you could have attacked them to get away

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Posted: 11th Aug 2010 23:02 Edited at: 11th Aug 2010 23:05
I didn't read all post but I've seen it talk about ghosts and aliens.
I will tell my "real paranormal" story ... And why I believe in something more great that what we can see here (not god like religion says but, something that is divine in everyone)

When I was young, I saw every night coming from the left wall and leaving in the right wall (relative to my bed) shadows that keeps the hand of the shadow just next her (some sort of medley) ... each of them went from the left and walked around the bed to reach and go inside the right wall... These shadows had no head.

No, I explain more what can be telled about ghost or strange things a child can see. What we must know is that we construct ourselves in more than 1 step.
The 1st step is from age 0 to approx 7. During this period we construct our physical body. That mean that our spirit is not yet builded completely and is open and receptive to everything in parallel and near planes (ethereal).
2st step from 7 and +, we start to construct our mental. The result is that our soul close itself from paranormal (other planes, ethereal). That's why we often see special things before 7 years old.

More to this, several years ago ( I was approx 16 years old ), the school was entirely rebuilded during summer holidays. During the holidays I've made a dream where I was at the center of the Schoolyard and Imagine a camera turning around you and you are at the centre of the view and with the rotation of the camera I have seen the entire school how it was 1 months after the dream... If you prefer, I've seen the school 1 months before its completion in a dream. The day after, when I awoke, I remind of my dream ... And when, 1 month later, when the next school started and when I entered the school, I've seen it entirely and it was exactly like in my dream ...

I'm really interested in everything esoteric and I really believe in soul ( âme in french ), in the 7 rays, meditation power.

I have some other esoteric experiencies but I cannot tell everything here ... ( in 1 post )

That was just a small stone in this post. I can talk more about the rays, meditation, soul if asked.

EDIT : Concerning aliens, I should advice to read anton parks books (secret of dark star, girku)

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Spydaniel: I dont know what weapons they have I was 8 and I was frozen in fear!

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When I was about 5 my parents took me to live in a hotel for 8 months during the winter.. they were the caretakers because during those months the amount of snow is crazy and they close all the roads, so they needed someone to do the odd maintenance (doing the boilers, heating the rooms in rotating cycles, etc.)

Anyways, before I got there I had this strange feeling that there were murders that happened in the hotel over its long history. I'm sure this is true of most old hotels, but for this particular one I kept getting flashbacks of these two little twin girls in blue frilly dresses just standing there and staring at me. It was so creepy! I even had this vision of buckets of blood pouring out of these elevator doors and washing away all the furniture in the hall... it was messed up! I was used to having visions when I was a kid.. some people even called them psychic visions but meh, whatever.

It pretty much traumatized me and I don't remember much of what happened after the first month of being there in the hotel. That was the last time I saw my dad, and my mom told me he went to live on a farm with my old dog. Weird right? I have no recollection of most of that part of my life, but it still creeps me out when I think about it.


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@Jeku: Really? That IS weird and obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the plot of The Shining at all

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