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Posted: 30th Aug 2010 02:59 Edited at: 1st Sep 2010 06:53
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Im not rich, I can only afford so much at a time. I want to upgrade my pc but i've been stuck with the now old LGA775 CPU for quite some time. The new Corei series cpus are out and man are they great. Same goes for my Video card. By now its outdated. I have a plan for a system I might get sometime in about november or so, im saving up with what lilttle money I have. I want your advice on the parts im thinking of picking out. Here's my list:

Case:
Sunbeam Transformer ATX Full Tower ($64.99 - $25 Mail-in rebate)

Mobo:
ASUS NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AM3 ($139.99)

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AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz ($139.99)

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G.SKILL 4GB (4x 1GB) DDR3 1333MHz (PC3 10600) Dual Channel ($99.88)

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Zotac GeForce GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 ($219.99)

Im going to use my PSU from my current PC witch is an Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply. Im also going to use my Lite-on SATA DVD-RW Drive and my WD 640GB SATA 7200RPM HDD. So that saves me a good amount of cash. I don't plan on gaming with this PC with o-mega max settings with AAx8 or AFx16 or whatever. Just so all my games run smoothly and looks really nice on my 1680 x 1050 22" Monitor. Games like Left 4 Dead 2, Mafia 2, Just Casue 2 Etc.

Any ideas? Does anything I listed sound good or what? I would really appreciate the feedback...

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Posted: 30th Aug 2010 03:16 Edited at: 30th Aug 2010 03:16
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I just want to point out that if you live near a microcenter (I don't know if they have any outside the USA) you can get an i7 930 for 200 bucks (same price as the i5 you were looking at). You'd have to change your motherboard choice but you'd get a quad core with hyper-threading for the same amount (and a higher clock speed).

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871&cm_re=amd_athlon_ii-_-19-103-871-_-Product
I recommend you get this processor. Lots of bang for your buck.


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Posted: 30th Aug 2010 03:32 Edited at: 30th Aug 2010 03:32
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Quote: "I just want to point out that if you live near a microcenter (I don't know if they have any outside the USA) you can get an i7 930 for 200 bucks (same price as the i5 you were looking at). You'd have to change your motherboard choice but you'd get a quad core with hyper-threading for the same amount (and a higher clock speed)."


The closest microcenter near me is at NJ and that's pretty far from where i live and we don't own a car Lol. That CPU is really nice for the price I like that but is there any LGA 1366 Micro ATX boards? I don't want to break my buget too much and I just skimmed thru the website and I didn't see any M-ATx LGA 1366 Boards. I need a small case because im running out of room here and my case is sandwitched between two desks which is not good for the air flow. That case i picked put can sit right on top of my desk without getting too much in the way of my cats Lol. Last time i put this case on my desk I awaken at like 4am only find out my pc droped on da floor thanks to the cats jumping on top makin it wobble. Thank god it still works. I'll keep this in mind.

Quote: "http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871&cm_re=amd_athlon_ii-_-19-103-871-_-Product
I recommend you get this processor. Lots of bang for your buck."


I heard about AMDs new cpus. But to put it simply im not really an AMD fan Lol. But i'll also keep this in mind.

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Im more of an intel guy too but that things cheap and good.


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I hear you. It really is cheap and good and I heard so much about them. I keep this in mind tho. Might just take you word for it.

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go with the 400 series card, however I'd go 465.

dual 250s is pretty much dual 9800gt's.

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Quote: "go with the 400 series card, however I'd go 465."


I agree. I think i'll go with the GTX 465 instead. Thanks for that one bugsy.

Quote: "dual 250s is pretty much dual 9800gt's."


I thought it was simialar to a 9800 GTX+? Oh well. I'll still take your word for it.

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I'm currently building a computer and almost had my cat jump right into it onto the motherboard. Little cute bastards.
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For a budget pc,buy a quad AMD Phenom. Loads more bang for a buck.
Graphic card,definately the GTX460 1gb version,much more speed,bigger data bitrate,just awesome in every way,also it's cheap.
Everything else is pretty much pick what you want.


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Quote: "For a budget pc,buy a quad AMD Phenom. Loads more bang for a buck.
Graphic card,definately the GTX460 1gb version,much more speed,bigger data bitrate,just awesome in every way,also it's cheap.
Everything else is pretty much pick what you want."


I see. Im a noob with AMD CPUs. I was thinking about AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz. However, I also planning to use the Geforce GTX 465s in SLI, just two of them or is that asking for a bit too much horsepower? All the mobo that i can find are all crossfireX suported only. I belive the ATi Raedon HD 5850 is about the same speed as the GTX 465? Or is it faster or slower? Also I can't seem to find a Micro-ATX AM3 mobo that can use that CPU. Any ideas?

Quote: "I'm currently building a computer and almost had my cat jump right into it onto the motherboard. Little cute bastards. "


Lol. When I was buidling this Pc the first time. One of them slept in the box where my Video card came in. And one hide inside the box where my Mobo came in. Just to be safe tho i think you should edit your post before a mod will see it as theres a word that i dont think flys around here. Not that its a problem for me but rules are rules.

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The GTX465 has slower data bitrate speeds,older chipset etc. The GTX460 is up to speed with Radeon 5850 but the difference in the price is huge,the 460 just dominates it in every way.

Motherboards with 2 GPU slots don't need two GPU's,you can have only one. One GPU will be more than enough,you can always add another 460 later when they are cheaper.

Also why would you need a Micro ATX motherboard for a huge system? There is tons of great motherboards out there that are ATX for example the ASUS M4A series.


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Quote: "The GTX465 has slower data bitrate speeds,older chipset etc. The GTX460 is up to speed with Radeon 5850 but the difference in the price is huge,the 460 just dominates it in every way."


So the GTX 465 is a bit slower then the GTX460? That's kinda werid. Unless i got it backwords. im a bit confused Lol.

Quote: "Motherboards with 2 GPU slots don't need two GPU's,you can have only one. One GPU will be more than enough,you can always add another 460 later when they are cheaper. "


Yes i kno this. My current Mobo can have 3 GPUs. But what I was saying was that most of the mobos i seen for that AMD Phenmon II X4 can only use dual GPUs with ATi crossfire. Not nvidia SLI at least thats what the specs of the motherboards read. But yea i agree, a single one of those cards will work just fine.

Quote: "Also why would you need a Micro ATX motherboard for a huge system? There is tons of great motherboards out there that are ATX for example the ASUS M4A series."


As huge as it sounds its really not. I looked up the size of the Cards and that case has enough room Length wise. So the cards will fit. also as i stated a few posts up. I need a small case because im running out of room here and my case is sandwitched between two desks which is not good for the air flow. That case i picked put can sit right on top of my desk without getting too much in the way of my cats Lol. Last time i put this case on my desk I awaken at like 4am only find out my pc droped on da floor thanks to the cats jumping on top makin it wobble.

However ultimately you are right. Just going to have to make some room by getting rid of some crap here Lol. I think I have something in mind. I'll post the new parts of the pc in a bit.

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Ok heres the system [AMD] I think will work out for me I edit the 1st post tell me what you guys think? I have an idea for an INTEL build or an AMD build.

Now the only thing I would say that I need but have no idea which one exaclty would work. Is the Heatsink for the CPU IF I go with this setup. Any ideas?

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@4125: I also reccommend the AMD Phenom II 555 Black Edition (stock @ 3.2Ghz). I own one myself, and last night achieved a stable 4Ghz overclock. The phenom II 555 BE also have 7MB of level 3 cache which gives a big performance boost. Also, with the right motherboard, you can unlock the other 2 cores on the phenom II which will give you a quad core CPU. But at 4Ghz, the CPU destroys all of the X4's, most of the Intel Quad CPU's and is on par with some of the i5/i7's.
The chip is a monster overclocker thanks to it's new C3 stepping, but make sure you buy a aftermarket heatsink if you plan on doing big overclocks.

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I suggest you buy the CPU COZ mentioned and rather than dual GTX465 go for dual GTX460,its way cheaper for very up to par preformance. Plus they overclock even better. The rest should be from your AMD list.


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Quote: "I also reccommend the AMD Phenom II 555 Black Edition (stock @ 3.2Ghz). I own one myself, and last night achieved a stable 4Ghz overclock. The phenom II 555 BE also have 7MB of level 3 cache which gives a big performance boost. Also, with the right motherboard, you can unlock the other 2 cores on the phenom II which will give you a quad core CPU. But at 4Ghz, the CPU destroys all of the X4's, most of the Intel Quad CPU's and is on par with some of the i5/i7's.
The chip is a monster overclocker thanks to it's new C3 stepping, but make sure you buy a aftermarket heatsink if you plan on doing big overclocks."


To be real im not really much of an overclocker. And the CPU sounds sick. But im still thinking about the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz I just checked out but I will keep that in mind thanks CoZ!

Quote: "I suggest you buy the CPU COZ mentioned and rather than dual GTX465 go for dual GTX460,its way cheaper for very up to par preformance. Plus they overclock even better. The rest should be from your AMD list."


For dual GTX460s, thats kinda kicking it. I would get one of them and get the second one another time as I think for my needs a single GPU is more then enough for me.

Thanks guys For the info. But for that heatsink, which one should I get?

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Quote: "Thanks guys For the info. But for that heatsink, which one should I get?"

If you using a socket AM2/AM2+ or AM3 board, then I suggest either the "OCZ vendetta" (own one myself) or the "Xigmatek HDT Direct touch cooler". Both cool alot better than the stock HSF, and are quieter too.

Xigmatek: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=700897&source=froogle £20 inc Vat and postage

OCZ Vendetta http://www.dabs.com/products/ocz-technology-vendetta-cpu-cooler-68CK.html £16.23 inc Vat + postage

If you need any help during your build, feel free to ask. I like to consider building gaming rigs my "forte"

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Mugen 2 pwns pretty much all the heatsinks in its grade.


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Switching to AMD is smart if you're a budget kind of guy. You could get one of the "dual core" phenoms and unlock the other 2 cores.

Avoid the GTX 465 at all costs, this is what you want. Not sure if it's as cheap as that in US $, but man, it's awesome value.

As for heatsinks, I've never needed more than the stock AMD cooler.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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get the quadcore 3.4 GHZ Phenom2 black. I have one and its amazing. I have one.

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Well now that you have said up a system you want more or less.I see you missed the power supply.

At least a 700 watt dual rail with at least 30+ rating on the 12 volts lines.Any thing else can be skimmed but not a PSU.

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You missed the power supply and the optical drive (you may have one or two around the house, I dunno).

I've never needed to upgrade from my 580w Hiper PSU.

Rig:
Gigabyte GTX 460 OC
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz
ASUS M4N82 Deluxe (nForce 980a, 3-way SLI)
4gb DDR2 800mhz (2x2gb 400mhz)
Hiper 580w PSU
Enermax Staray Red case


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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Quote: "If you using a socket AM2/AM2+ or AM3 board, then I suggest either the "OCZ vendetta" (own one myself) or the "Xigmatek HDT Direct touch cooler". Both cool alot better than the stock HSF, and are quieter too."


Thanks. I'll get the Xigmatek HDT-S963.

Quote: "If you need any help during your build, feel free to ask. I like to consider building gaming rigs my "forte" "


Lol. I'll Keep that in mind. I build all my pcs that I ever owned but this will be my first AMD build. shouldn't be a problem.

Quote: "Switching to AMD is smart if you're a budget kind of guy. You could get one of the "dual core" phenoms and unlock the other 2 cores.

Avoid the GTX 465 at all costs, this is what you want. Not sure if it's as cheap as that in US $, but man, it's awesome value."


Yup. AMD got some very cheap cpus. I just hope that the one I picked out will do what I expect it to do. The prices on the GTX 465 and GTX 460 1GB Version is the same. But I guess i'll just go with the GTX 460 might just get the 768MB Version since its like $30 cheaper. Could use that extra cash to save it for the CPU Lol.

Quote: "Well now that you have said up a system you want more or less.I see you missed the power supply.

At least a 700 watt dual rail with at least 30+ rating on the 12 volts lines.Any thing else can be skimmed but not a PSU."


Quote: "You missed the power supply and the optical drive (you may have one or two around the house, I dunno).

I've never needed to upgrade from my 580w Hiper PSU."


I didn't missed either of those. If you read the 1st post competely:

Im going to use my PSU from my current PC witch is an Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply. Im also going to use my Lite-on SATA DVD-RW Drive and my WD 640GB SATA 7200RPM HDD. So that saves me a good amount of cash

I did my homework on the GPU and CPU as well as the rest the system and it should work on my PSU no problem. But if i want a second one, I'll get a new PSU but as of now this system sounds much better then my current one so 1 GPU seems like enough for me.

Quote: "Rig:
Gigabyte GTX 460 OC
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz
ASUS M4N82 Deluxe (nForce 980a, 3-way SLI)
4gb DDR2 800mhz (2x2gb 400mhz)"


I might just have the exact same setup Lol.

Thank you all for this help. But Im just curious. I see everyone gets their rigs and Overclocks. Not trying to sound like a wuss, but im not too fond of doing that as I read it can risk damage to my PC which I don't want to do. I still going to school for A+ Computer repair, and my teacher was going to teach me about overclocking since I bought it up to him but I missed about 3 months of class due to an Issue with my family.

I hear so many results of overclocking but isn't heat an issue? My room gets very hot even with two fans in here at full blast. Can't use my A\C because we pay for electricity and the bill is going to sky rocket even after 2 days of use. I would like to get some good tips about overclocking, might just test it with my current pc when im almost done with my new one to get a feel for it Lol.

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If you want proper speed,FOR GODS SAKE DO NOT BUY GTX460 768mb version. The data bitrate is almost half less,the 1GB version is way faster.


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Quote: "FOR GODS SAKE DO NOT BUY GTX460 768mb version"


totally unnecessary to post that.

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Quote: "If you want proper speed,FOR GODS SAKE DO NOT BUY GTX460 768mb version."

Your point, whilst valid (the 768MB version only has a 196bit interface compared to 250bit) will not become evident until gaming at high resolutions with loads on anti-aliasing. Not everyone needs the "fastest" everything in their computer. A GTX 460 768MB coupled with the rest of his setup will provide plenty of power for playing modern games at their highest settings.

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Quote: "Your point, whilst valid (the 768MB version only has a 196bit interface compared to 250bit) will not become evident until gaming at high resolutions with loads on anti-aliasing. Not everyone needs the "fastest" everything in their computer. A GTX 460 768MB coupled with the rest of his setup will provide plenty of power for playing modern games at their highest settings."


Exaclty. Like I said on the first post:

I don't plan on gaming with this PC with o-mega max settings with AAx8 or AFx16 or whatever. Just so all my games run smoothly and looks really nice on my 1680 x 1050 22" Monitor. Games like Left 4 Dead 2, Mafia 2, Just Casue 2 Etc.

Besides, anything now-a-days is better then what I currently have.
Thank you CoZ.

For the most part im going to stick with this setup. If anybody still got some good ideas thats light on the price please let me know. Im open to any ideas.

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Quote: "I don't plan on gaming with this PC with o-mega max settings with AAx8 or AFx16 or whatever. Just so all my games run smoothly and looks really nice on my 1680 x 1050 22" Monitor. Games like Left 4 Dead 2, Mafia 2, Just Casue 2 Etc."


You will be able to max out those games easy. Because I only game a tad above 1024x768, Iv'e realised that I could of just not upgraded to a 5970 2GB since the performance is just about the same as my 4870 1GB due to the lowered resolution I play at. I'm debating if I should sell my 5970 to get my £400 back, and stick with my 4870 1GB considering it maxed everything just fine.

The lesson here is: Don't overkill

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I'd go for the 1gb version. Not only is it faster, but it obviously has more memory. Resource-busters like Grand Theft Auto IV benefit from more memory, because you can kick the graphical settings higher.

Hell, it's your choice, but for that extra $30 you may as well futureproof it just that tiny bit extra.


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Quote: "You will be able to max out those games easy. Because I only game a tad above 1024x768, Iv'e realised that I could of just not upgraded to a 5970 2GB since the performance is just about the same as my 4870 1GB due to the lowered resolution I play at. I'm debating if I should sell my 5970 to get my £400 back, and stick with my 4870 1GB considering it maxed everything just fine.

The lesson here is: Don't overkill"


I never overkill Lol. I just want a pc something more of today's standards. My current pc is starting to show its age and yes i know its bottlenecking but I went thru multiple upgrades with this one but never used it as my primary until last year.

Quote: "I'd go for the 1gb version. Not only is it faster, but it obviously has more memory. Resource-busters like Grand Theft Auto IV benefit from more memory, because you can kick the graphical settings higher.

Hell, it's your choice, but for that extra $30 you may as well futureproof it just that tiny bit extra"


With how broke I am and the little money I get, i might not be able to get the GTX 460 1GB. But yea it makes sense but only time will tell. Gotta save up a load of cash for what might be either in novmeber or if im unlucky enough, in april, i will get my new pc with this system in mind.

Computer Specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz @ 1066Mhz FSB 3MB Cache, Dual Channel 8192MB DDR2 PC6400 800MHz RAM, XFX Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ 512MB, XFX 780i SLI Motherboard
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If you can afford to overkill and continue normal life, why the hell not? It'll be made average within the next 10 years anyway.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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If you get the case from Newegg its only 60 bucks with shipping cause of mail in rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004
2x2gb ram(same maker G.SKILL(5 eggs and winner of customer choice))free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
With the 25 dollar savings, you can get the 1gb Graphics card.


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Posted: 1st Sep 2010 03:09 Edited at: 1st Sep 2010 03:10
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Quote: "If you can afford to overkill and continue normal life, why the hell not? It'll be made average within the next 10 years anyway."


Well it depends. Anything can happen in the future. Besides-

Quote: "If you get the case from Newegg its only 60 bucks with shipping cause of mail in rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004
2x2gb ram(same maker G.SKILL(5 eggs and winner of customer choice))free shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
With the 25 dollar savings, you can get the 1gb Graphics card."


-I can get this case which also cost $39.99 after mail in rebate. Altho in the past 80% of the time i never get the rebate in time for some odd reason. This could save me the money for the GPU.

As for the RAM, I found out that having 8GB ram really doesn't improve much in performence. But having more stick's does. So i was going with 4GBs of 4 sticks of RAM which should give me faster speed over the 4GB 2 sticks you sent. And is only $7 more or so. 1333Mhz x 4 = 5332Mhz. 1600Mhz x 2 = 3200Mhz.

Unless the speed as nothing to do with it?

Computer Specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz @ 1066Mhz FSB 3MB Cache, Dual Channel 8192MB DDR2 PC6400 800MHz RAM, XFX Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ 512MB, XFX 780i SLI Motherboard
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It's the memory that matters, but the speed obviously helps the programs access that memory.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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Quote: "It's the memory that matters, but the speed obviously helps the programs access that memory."


As I thought. But I won't use programs that is over 4GBs so im good.

Computer Specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80GHz @ 1066Mhz FSB 3MB Cache, Dual Channel 8192MB DDR2 PC6400 800MHz RAM, XFX Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ 512MB, XFX 780i SLI Motherboard
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