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PAGAN_old
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I was planning on buyng a large monitor for my computer for a long time now. My personal preference is a 27" monitor. I started looking around
SAMSUNG P2770H and Viewsonic VX2739wm are my two best choices. Here is what i know The samsung seemes to be really good but its leg is kinda crappy so it wabbles apperently anlso it has no wall moount options. But i can live with that. 2ms response time

the viewsonic was the first one i stumbled upon. what attracted me is the 1ms response time. It has wall mount option and everything. I am thinking of getting a wallmount as well.

They are both around the same price, The both apperntly have great colors but being a little into graphics and having a friend who is a professional graphic artist, we both know that these $300 monitors are not good enough for professional graphics. Altho i am sure that i can somehow adjust the color setup on them to make it better for photoshop. Also professional monitors cost a lot more. So if anyone knows about monitors or can tell me something useful or what should i look for when buying a 27" i would be greatful to expand my knowledge.

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Posted: 12th Sep 2010 14:19 Edited at: 12th Sep 2010 14:19
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You should probably keep all your questions in one thread at a time, otherwise people will shout at you

EDIT: no idea, sorry

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LG has a really nice 27" that's pretty reasonably priced.

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I am also after a 26/27 inch monitor for less than 500 AUD.
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what do you want it for?

if you are mainly concerned with graphic design, video production etc then colour response is a little more important to you

if you mainly use it for games, then sure, the response time is important. However, given that most screens run at 60Hz/16.6ms, 75Hz/13.3ms, 90Hz/11.1ms or (less frequently but becoming more common) 120Hz/8.3 ms I don't think you will really notice it.

Until the refresh rate is less than double the screen response (i.e. over half of each 'frame' is spent trying to get the pixels to the correct brightness) I am not really sure most people can reliably tell the difference between 1ms, 2ms and 4ms response

Disclaimer: there is no scientific fact in the above statement, it has just been put together froma bunch of different reviews and my own personal experience

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My mom had a Viewsonic. It's pretty amazing for the price. She had a thunderstorm a while back and it died. It was about 2 years old. My uncle replaced a couple caps in the power supply and fixed it. He claimed they were the cheapest capacitors he'd ever seen.

So, beware, good price, good picture, possibly cheap quality.

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Posted: 12th Sep 2010 21:33 Edited at: 12th Sep 2010 21:43
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Well today i had free time, i had money and i just couldt sit around and i went to buy a monitor at the biggest electronics mall/market in moscow( proboly the biggest in russia as well). My first choice was a viewsonic 27 inch, it had 1 ms response and unlike the samsung you could mount it on the wall rack. I found 3 shops that sold viewsonic ones, they all only had one of them left and when they checked for dead pixels, every single one had a noticable dead pixel in the middle. so that kinda ruined the image of viewsonic for me but yet again it was the cheapest one @ about $450. (on newegg it was 350 but everything in russia is more expensive) and i was hoping that viewsonic would be a better choice as they specialise in monitors. Then i looked for my second choic which is the 27" samsung, responce time is 2ms. In newegg its also 350 bucks but it got better ratings (in fact it was at the top of the list 70 reviews 5 eggs) than the viewsonic (which had 40 reviews and only 4 eggs). Initially it was sold for $620 but since i was buying it in cash right there i managed to bargan it down to $550 the only problem is they didnt have a setup on which they could test for dead pixels but i have a warranty anyway. since it was a bargan i decided to try my luck with it and bought it. i just came home and cant wait to set it up.

Also in terms of professional graphics, i could buy a cheap 19" whith the whatever matrix and correct colors but its not critical for me since i dont do it very often and i have an old flatscreen CRT for that kind of stuff. and if i am gonna purchase a professional graphics monitor (or professional anything) its best to get something more expensive.

the good part is the samsung was made in russia and not china.

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I use a HDTV for a monitor doubling as a TV for my 360 - most come with a VGA port and it looks good. My brother bought an LG HDTV for his new desktop and it seems to work out alright. Mine's a cheap one from 2 years ago, called 'Cello', its HDMI port is a bit faulty now, but it still works. Though I'd probably spend my money on an LG, for the price, they're well built and look good. But if you're looking specifically for a monitor, listen to everybody else.

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I got my 21" Hannspree TV/monitor for a cheap price. In it is my N64, Xbox, Gamecube, Xbox 360 and PC. (Thanks to a 3-way SCART control unit)

Image quality is way more important than build quality. I'd rather have a wobbly perfect picture than a dull, immobile one.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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well, i just got this set up, I am happy there are no dead pixels but when i started playin GTA4 i noticed a clear difference in color between my 27 and my old crt which is made for professional design and photoshop. Well thats expected i cant complain but ill try and see if there is a way i can maybe configure it so the colors would look more realistic any tips for that anyone?

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Just find a photo of someone and fart around for 5 minutes until it looks human. If it already looks human, why bother?


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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well i figured that the monitor has a bit too much green in it, i am farting around with it right now to get it right

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Use this site: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

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definatley a useful site. ran some tests, kept freaking out when i thought there was a dead pixel but it all turned out to be dust. Also i managed to set the monitor to have the correct color configuration but no matter what it always seemes like there is barely noticabley more green and if i tome it down, there is bareley noticable red, (for some reason i couldnt notice too much blue and blue was on full). i got it as close as i could to more realistic colors. It was however cool for a while when i played GTA4 and everything was sortof green and it just looked like the matrix or something.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2010 02:22 Edited at: 14th Sep 2010 02:42
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Quote: "27" monitor. Any good reccomendations?"

I recommend a big desk.

I read some reviews and a little research on monitors for graphics artists. Viewsonic is mentioned many times, so is Apple if price isn't an issue.

I use a 24" Westinghouse and I'm pretty happy about. Only thing I'd change is the shiny black border and a sturdier stand. When will manufactures realize that not everybody wants shiny black surfaces that distract the eye and cause excess strain? My westinghouse was the only screen I saw in BestBuy that appeared to get brighter the further away I stood. It was also nearly $600 three years ago.

I had a professional series ViewSonic before I bought the westinghouse. It was a CRT but it had an amazing picture that took a lot of courage for me to finally leave behind for a lame LCD. So I can't speak of the quality of ViewSonic LCDs, but in my experience they've done great in the past.

If Sony makes an LCD monitor, consider that. I have a 50" Sony TV and in my opinion it recreates colors more accurately than Samsung. Samsungs look great, but they tend to raise the contrast levels and darker the shadows for a real nice image. The downside to that is you won't see very dark objects as they'll black into blackness. My Sony handles very dark shadows very well without having to brighten the whole screen, causing a washed-out and faded look on the brights. If Samsung monitors do the same as their TVs, I wouldn't get one for graphics design.

Quote: "I am not really sure most people can reliably tell the difference between 1ms, 2ms and 4ms response"

I'm sure you would with motion when you start seeing ghosting affects. Number one reason why I hate LCDs.

Whether or not you like Apple, they do make some amazing monitors.

HP DreamColor (30-bit) monitor sounds nice, but with a $2k price tag I don't think you want it. Has a crappy response time anyway.

According to Newegg, Asus seems to have the highest ratings on several of their monitors. Odd, considering I never knew Asus made monitors.


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i agree apple makes wonderful monitors. I also agree about shiny black surfaces

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