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Geek Culture / Coding languages, what did you learn first?

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Fatal Berserker
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2010 20:37
Quote: "Well does that mean most programming languages are scripting?
Because they need an OS to execute the program, just like html needs a browser to execute the document."


It seems people are confused at what i said.
What i ment to say was that:
Scripting is when an application opens and reads the file, but the file doesnt run on its own.
Programming is when the source code is compiled and it will run itself without the need for another application (OS doesnt count).

Quote: "just like html needs a browser to execute the document."

Im pretty sure HTML, CSS etc are scripting.

I may be wrong but im pretty sure thats it.

Smoke me a kipper, ill be back for breakfast.
anayar
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2010 20:40
Worked some with Cobol, then dumped programming altogether, then came back to Python and Basic... worked a little with C# along the way... Now im playing with DarkBasic

Cheers,
Anayar


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Posted: 23rd Sep 2010 20:44
I can't remember the exact first time I really learned a language..

But I started with my grandfather's old C64 he gave to me when I was around 10 or 11.. I had no idea what I was doing but I took code from a star field, and code from a C64 balloon that would fall across the screen at an angle, and I made a program of a Baloon falling across a starfield - except it deleted whatever was in its path, LOL

I fooled around with BASIC/QBASIC.. But the first structured language of any significance I learned was probably HTML when I was around 12 or 13. I made random web sites for a while.

I went through a phase where I tried and failed to learn various languages in my teens.. I had even tried Darkbasic back then! Back when it had the like... 600 (I think) page downloadable documentation you could print out and that funky looking Full Screen Mode editor. Played around with RPG maker.

Rented books from the library on different languages. C++, Java, Python, and one or two others I don't think I can remember.

I got hung up on C++ because learning to use a compiler and all the strict rules really irritated me - and also I got hung up reading Sams C++ in 24 hours, on the math parts. I was so determined not to move forward in the book until I understood each section, that I torpedoed myself and gave up in frustration.

So now I'm about to turn 28..I really got into Python earlier this year and I really love the language and it feels so easy to read and understand (for the most part).. But I ultimately gave up on it because distributing an actual application, let alone just attaching it and its required dependencies to an EXE is such a hard task.. and I couldn't get past finding a way for non-blocking input on the command line (that I could understand)

Blitz Max has very sparse documentation and real learning examples to look at.. So it wasn't worth $80 to me - and I couldn't even figure out how to print to the screen without looking it up for 30 minutes... lol

Dark Game Studio was on sale... so I said what the heck... Picked up some plugins as well (Feel kind of burned on those purchases, except for DarkDATA as most of the stuff is useless to me).

So here I am! Was really frustrated for a while, and probably will be again real soon.. But doing my best to push ahead and learn while making my Text RPG.

Eminent
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2010 23:34 Edited at: 23rd Sep 2010 23:58
ModEdit: No Ages please

Heres mine:
Java(epic fail), VB(epic fail), VC++(epic fail), DBPro.


Jeku
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Posted: 25th Sep 2010 01:07
I would say that scripting and programming are interchangeable terms because I have seen job listings for Game Scripters where the applicant will use C++ on a daily basis.

A language like HTML, where there's no native way to have control loops and variables can probably not be considered a "real" programming language. It's more or less a design template language, right?


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MSon
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Posted: 25th Sep 2010 01:13 Edited at: 25th Sep 2010 01:28
First language i ever learned was on the old Spectrum ZX81, when you where playing a game, you could exit to the code so i use to change the games, then i learned STOS on the atari, Then some basic language on BBC Computers, cant remember what that was called, (i was still under 10 years old by this point), then Amos on the Amiga, then i got a PC and learned QBasic, Then Visual Basic, Then DARKBASIC, There where also some other things on older systems, but cant remember there names.

I only got DarkBasic originally as it reminded me of my Pre Teen days of programming on the Atari ST, so i think i qualify as a geek.

Infact first mod i ever did was upgrading my Atari ST to a full 1 Whole Meg of Memory, Think I was about 13 years old at the time.


nitrohaze
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Posted: 28th Sep 2010 15:59
ZX81 Basic
Commondore Vic 20 Basic
Locomotive Basic and GW Basic at the same time
BBC Basic
Z80 Assembly (Hand Compiled at first until I got an assember!!!)
6502 Assembly
Pascal
AMOS
Cobol at college
68000 Assembly and c/c++ at university
Foxpro - Work
c# - Work
SQL - Work

oh and Darkbasic and Darkbasic Pro along the way somewhere.

My favorite has to be Z80/6502/68000 Assembly just loved the simplicity of it all and the complexity of putting anything decent together.
Image All
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Posted: 28th Sep 2010 16:34
i started programming with VB, but i had been working with HTML for a few years. I'm not counting HTML because it's not a programming language; it's a markup language which means it's just a way of organizing data but not doing anything with it. somewhere at the same time i tried and failed to learn javascript, but failed because the introduction of variables and such confused my simple mind.

after a while with VB i tried learning C++ and never got very far. i could make elaborate Hello World programs and copy/paste things, but that was it.

then i found out about DarkBASIC, downloaded the DBC demo (with the fullscreen IDE and everything, it was neat) and made some basic ball-on-matrix type things. it took me a while though, and i started out just re-writing the tutorials, not fully understanding things, but eventually figured stuff out. i got DBPro for christmas and made a good learning experience out of it.

then i found Game Maker and made some quick things, then i started getting a little more determined with it and made a stickman game that has 45 minutes of gameplay (unfinished though). i am currently remaking it in GM Pro with all of my amazing GML knowledge and GIMP skills, and it's turning out quite nicely.

i spent a lot of time in GM with GML because it's even easier than DBPro (i mean it comes with a built-in level editor and event-driven entity system thing and suchwhat ), but last sunday i finally reinstalled DBP, upgraded it to u75 and got matrix1utils and sparky's, so i'm going to re-visit DBP and see what I can pull off this time around.


Remember those old guys? They made epic renders, I think one of them was called DaVinci, and all they used was MS Paint. Sometimes it's just skill....
Bugsy
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Posted: 28th Sep 2010 22:21
First I learned: ACTION SCRIPT 2- Macromedia flash's language
then I learned FPI from FPSC

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