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freak of nature 64
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 06:23
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Is anyone here in the USAF?

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Aaagreen
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Counter-Strike is as close to war as I want to get, and real wars don't have morons hopping around with AWPs and Desert Eagles.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 13:07
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Agreed. I'm also not American sooo...I'm pretty irrelevant.

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freak of nature 64
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 16:38
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@Aaagreen
Counter Strike is annoying, though, because no one wants to cooperate with each other. Actual war is very organized and nothing like Counter Strike. Oh, and morons don't jump around with AWPs or Desert Eagles.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 17:04
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Quote: "Counter Strike is annoying, though, because no one wants to cooperate with each other. Actual war is very organized and nothing like Counter Strike."


You're playing on the wrong servers But yeah, has anyone ever said counterstrike is like real war?

Anyway, everyone knows America's Army is like real war.

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freak of nature 64
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Yeah, but AA3 lags like hell on my rig. Weird thing is, I have pretty good specs

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PAGAN_old
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 20:57
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whi cares for war. in USAF all you do is wear a nice looking uniform and nothing else pretty much. i have a friend there and he says its pretty much you trying to look pretty and nothing else. yeah i am sure they go on training missions once in a while.

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DJ Almix
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 21:03 Edited at: 2nd Oct 2010 21:03
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Try Bad Company 2, it's squad based and people actually try and stick together and help each other.

As for the USAF, um, no.

But what do you do in the USAF?

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Fatal Berserker
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2010 22:34
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Quote: "Try Bad Company 2, it's squad based and people actually try and stick together and help each other."

It was in the beta, and a few weeks after its release. Now people mostly do their own thing =/.

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Herakles
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2010 23:32 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2010 23:32
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No video game will EVER be like a real war. Video games are fake. War is real. When you die in a real war, you don't respawn or load the last save game, you're just dead. When you see your friends getting blown away next to you, they don't say "Oh my god, that guy killed me! He cheated!" They don't say anything. They're dead, and nothing will ever bring them back.

It pisses me off when kids look at video games and say "Oh, I could do that in real life! I'm a badass video game character!" Games are fun, real wars are not.

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Aaagreen
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2010 23:49
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Hence the reason why I'm not interested in real war.


I'd love to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my bum.
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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 00:49
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Quote: "No video game will EVER be like a real war. Video games are fake. War is real. When you die in a real war, you don't respawn or load the last save game, you're just dead. When you see your friends getting blown away next to you, they don't say "Oh my god, that guy killed me! He cheated!" They don't say anything. They're dead, and nothing will ever bring them back.

It pisses me off when kids look at video games and say "Oh, I could do that in real life! I'm a badass video game character!" Games are fun, real wars are not."

Agreed, I was going to say something about that. It pisses me off that kids are so drawn in to the glorified version of the military they see in video games. In real life, you don't play 15 minute firefights whenever you want. Depending on your position, you spend hours moving equipment, patrolling roads hoping you don't get blown up by an enemy you'll never see, or training to prepare for the rare occasion that you'll actually have to fight. And if you ever do fight, one mistake could cost you your life or your friends and every kill you make is killing someone's relative, not some kids character he controls in his basement and re-spawns with in 15 seconds.


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Quote: "Agreed, I was going to say something about that. It pisses me off that kids are so drawn in to the glorified version of the military they see in video games. "

Thats hardily true, our existence alone is based off of thousands and thousands of years of glorified war. Near all technological advancements that we take for granted are given to us due to war. If war wasn't glorified and man had no interest in fighting, then we would have died out when we were apes.

You cant blame video games for something that has always been around.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 01:23
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Yeh, even the humble microwave is the result of a WWII program to manufacture a death ray...

With war comes the need for improved logistics, communications, etc. Hence cars. Hence nuclear power. Hence the internet...

Fighting in a war myself though? No thanks. In a decade or so unmanned drones might be at the point where we don't need the footsoldier. and I'd die, if I even made it through boot camp...

But just because you're fighting in a war doesn't give you the right to complain when people question it's necessity, (not saying anyone here is, but I've talked to people just back from Afghanistan, which is a pointless war, imo)...

I mean we're not exactly fighting a viable foe that could take our countries from us, are we? The world is both too fractured and too connected to allow that level of uprising.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 02:00
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Quote: " in USAF all you do is wear a nice looking uniform and nothing else pretty much. i have a friend there and he says its pretty much you trying to look pretty and nothing else. yeah i am sure they go on training missions once in a while."

All they do is try to look pretty? That's a joke.

If you want to join the USAF, go for it, that's where the smart ones go. Not much in the way of bonuses, but that changes when it comes time to re-enlist. The current wait time right now is about a year, and the cut-off age is only 27 to join. You won't get promoted as quickly as you would in the Army, just so you know.


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Herakles
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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 04:42 Edited at: 4th Oct 2010 04:42
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Quote: "Thats hardily true, our existence alone is based off of thousands and thousands of years of glorified war. Near all technological advancements that we take for granted are given to us due to war. If war wasn't glorified and man had no interest in fighting, then we would have died out when we were apes.

You cant blame video games for something that has always been around."


It is true that war is sometimes necessary. I didn't mean to imply that I was a complete pacifist. If one nation is attacked by another, they have every right to defend themselves. But war purely for war's sake is pointless, and war purely for political gain is outright criminal. The ultimate goal of war is peace, not further war.

Kids join the army to defend their homes and families. They entrust their lives, and the lives of those they will have to kill, to their governments and those governments ablitiy to lead their nations wisely. Unfortunately, governments are blind (either through incompetence or outright corruption) to the effects their decisions will have on those they govern. Soldiers are forced to die in meaningless wars for their government's own political gain.

I never claimed that video games were responsible for real life wars. Video games have absolutely nothing to do with real wars. They can occasionally cause certain children to join the army and throw away their lives for meaningless wars, but they don't cause the meaningless wars that kids throw away their lives in.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 05:48
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My dad was in the USAF. he dusted pews.


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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 4th Oct 2010 08:33
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Quote: "Thats hardily true, our existence alone is based off of thousands and thousands of years of glorified war. Near all technological advancements that we take for granted are given to us due to war. If war wasn't glorified and man had no interest in fighting, then we would have died out when we were apes.

You cant blame video games for something that has always been around."

I wasn't implying that video games were the only thing that glorified war (I love war games, but I'm not naive enough to believe real war is anything like them), but war has always been glorified through various means, and at the moment the primary way seems to be through video games (and movies, although many of those are better at capturing the horrifying reality than games).


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Twu Kai
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Posted: 5th Oct 2010 20:30 Edited at: 5th Oct 2010 20:31
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Quote: "My dad was in the USAF. he dusted pews. "


Lol!

Sorry, I don't have much to add (I just really found that funny ^^)
I do agree with Herakles that war purely for war or for political gain is not right in any way, though.
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Bootlicker
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Posted: 5th Oct 2010 22:44
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I dad's a major in the British army.


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Quote: "i have a friend there and he says its pretty much you trying to look pretty and nothing else."


When I was in 3rd Ranger Battalion, we had a couple of Air Force liaison guys attached to us who pretty much did all the same things we did.

Quote: "No video game will EVER be like a real war."


The thing that struck me the most was the smells. You don't get the smell of corpses ripening in the sun in a video game.

Ten minutes to Wapner.
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