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Geek Culture / Thieves can have honor

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Phaelax
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Posted: 19th Oct 2010 23:37
This sounds more like something you'd see in a movie-type thief. In Sweden, a professor had his laptop stolen, but a week later received a flash drive containing all his files from the laptop.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/8071220/Thief-returns-stolen-laptop-contents-on-USB-stick.html

What I'd like to know is, why would he leave his bag behind a door outside of the laundry rather than take it in with him?


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DJ Almix
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Posted: 19th Oct 2010 23:39
Quote: "What I'd like to know is, why would he leave his bag behind a door outside of the laundry rather than take it in with him?"


Cause its illegal in Sweden

bergice
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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 00:10
Thieves are humans too you know

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Phaelax
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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 07:34
It's illegal to take a laptop into a laundry room?


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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 07:36
that has to be one of the most random laws i have heard of xD

Metal Devil123
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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 09:50 Edited at: 20th Oct 2010 10:01
nvm, I misunderstood this situation...

Benjamin
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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 17:56
Quote: "This sounds more like something you'd see in a movie-type thief. In Sweden, a professor had his laptop stolen, but a week later received a flash drive containing all his files from the laptop."


Perhaps they could find the perpetrator's fingerprints on the drive and use this to help put him behind bars.
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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 21:27
Finger prints are useless if you haven't been arrested and put on file. CCTV would be the only hope if the thief hasn't been caught in the past.

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Posted: 20th Oct 2010 21:30
Quote: "that has to be one of the most random laws i have heard of xD"


Wow...XD

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 21:52
Wow being a thief that guy is really not a complete jerk, if only there were more people like him. The way i see theves is if they can get away with a good theft, they deserve it because theft isnt easy and a lot of risk involved. so if you look at it that way it is hard work that has its perks. This dosent apply to all thefts. Then there is the taking advantage of stupid people, if a person is stupid enough to get something valuable stolen, they deserve to get it stolen

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 21:55
Quote: "so if you look at it that way it is hard work that has its perks"


Alternately they could do other hard work that doesn't deprive someone of their possessions.
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 22:01
PAGAN, i cannot agree with you, at all.
a few weeks ago, i left my moped at the yard, since it is a veichle and therefore i should be able to leave it at the yard, just like a car. However, they seem to have stolen my front brake, and when i left it at a friends house they stole something from the wheel.


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AndrewT
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 22:30
Quote: "Wow being a thief that guy is really not a complete jerk, if only there were more people like him. The way i see theves is if they can get away with a good theft, they deserve it because theft isnt easy and a lot of risk involved. so if you look at it that way it is hard work that has its perks. This dosent apply to all thefts. Then there is the taking advantage of stupid people, if a person is stupid enough to get something valuable stolen, they deserve to get it stolen"


Agreed--murder, for example, is a very honorable endeavor because it's quite difficult to accomplish without being caught. And really, the victims deserve to die anyway, because if they're stupid enough to get killed, they clearly deserve it.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 22:52
Quote: "PAGAN, i cannot agree with you, at all.
a few weeks ago, i left my moped at the yard, since it is a veichle and therefore i should be able to leave it at the yard, just like a car. However, they seem to have stolen my front brake, and when i left it at a friends house they stole something from the wheel.
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stuff like this happens, i had bikes stolen among other stuff many times. so when i got my moped i always put it in the bacement. When i moved to the city i really had no place to put a moped so i sold it instead of waiting it to get stolen. Mopeds and motorcycles are stolen more often because they attract more attention than cars and they are easier to steal. just unhook the battery, that disables the alarm. roll it away somewhere quiet and hotwiring them can be easy depending on the bike and if you are able to hotwire it, bypassing the steering wheel lock should be a piece of cake. as for murder. really depends who kill and your motive and now that i think of it, there arent any perks in killing anyone unless you are trying to cover sumething up oryoure a psycopath, there is nothing really honorable about that unless its a fair duel. Altho if you manage to kill someone really important and stirr up a beehive and somehow avoid getting caught, i mean killing is wrong most of the time but you gotta admit you have to be very smart to hide your tracks and avoid getting arrested with all of todays forensic CSI stuff.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 23:20
well, considering iam all against killing, murder or death sentances, no matter the reason, i cannot agree with you there either. Killing someone is wrong, no matter whom you have killed, no matter how many people the criminal has killed. No matter how many girls he has raped. He is still a human, he or she i mean. And the human life is too valuable for someone to decide who dies or not. I believe, that no matter what you have done, you still deserve to live.


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 23:25 Edited at: 21st Oct 2010 23:27
<troll>

Quote: "Killing someone is wrong, no matter whom you have killed"

Who's measuring right and wrong here? What standard are you appealing to?

Quote: "And the human life is too valuable for someone to decide who dies or not."

Who decides how valuable life is? Where does that value come from? If the human life has this value, what can be said about other creatures?

Quote: "I believe, that no matter what you have done, you still deserve to live."

I committed suicide. lulz

</troll>


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 23:39
well death sentence (among other crime punishment laws) is a neseseary evil in my opinion, gets people scared and think twice before comitting a serios crime. its good to have if you want a stable society. Russia banned death sentence and look at us, our crimerate is among the higest in the world.

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 00:16
Quote: " i mean killing is wrong most of the time but you gotta admit you have to be very smart to hide your tracks and avoid getting arrested with all of todays forensic CSI stuff."


If the smartest person in the world did stupid things skillfully, he would not be very smart.

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 00:48
Quote: "Quote: "Killing someone is wrong, no matter whom you have killed"
Who's measuring right and wrong here? What standard are you appealing to?

Quote: "And the human life is too valuable for someone to decide who dies or not."
Who decides how valuable life is? Where does that value come from? If the human life has this value, what can be said about other creatures?

Quote: "I believe, that no matter what you have done, you still deserve to live."
I committed suicide. lulz"


right, i feel like i have to "defend" myself here, that was all about my OWN opinion, therefore questions like "who decides how valuable life is", well like i said, in my own very personal opinion life is invaluable.


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 01:20 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2010 01:22
Well just for clarification, I'm not trying to start crap, even though questioning your stance does seem rather aggressive. The reason for asking them in the first place is because what you presented here is not just a matter of personal preference, it's a normative claim about morality, which logically has to be justified by absolutes (unless you don't want to get in the debate; i enclosed my post in <troll> tags because i know this could derail the thread if we let it). TBH what i really wanted to do was not thread hijack, but plant some questions in your mind about your own stance, since, if you can't show logical support to other people for these normative claims, why should you even accept them? Food for thought, 'sall...


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