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Geek Culture / Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker help?

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 02:08
Well, this feels slightly awkward.

Last night I was playing Wind Waker (I'm playing it for the first time, I know I'm a bit behind the times ), and I got to the Dragon Roost Island level. I made it all the way to the top of the Cavern where I'm supposed to defeat the dragon, but I did something stupid. I saved right where I was, shut the GameCube off, and went to sleep. A while ago I returned to the game, only to discover I was back at the beginning of the level and the staircase that I needed to climb was GONE. I remembered that the staircase disappears underneath the player's feet as they're walking up. I tried everything I could think of; getting a game over, walking out and back into the level, NOTHING works, the staircase is still gone and I cannot do what I need to do now. I know this because the walkthrough is pretty descriptive: http://guides.ign.com/guides/17012/page_12.html

So...does anybody have any ideas? I really don't want to restart my game in its entirety. But if I have to I guess that's not the end of the world (but does seem really stupid).

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 02:45
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA





...i'm sorry, i don't know what else to say

Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 05:45


As it turns out I figured out I actually didn't need to go up the stairs again. So I just posted this for nothing.

So let's turn this into a different discussion....

What's your favorite Zelda game? I really enjoyed Phantom Hourglass for the DS and Four Sword for the GameCube. I really need/want to play Ocarina of Time because everyone loves that one. So yeah.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 06:20
Oh my god... you havent.. played.. ocarina of time??

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 06:42


Crap...my "not as big a geek as you guys" side is showing! I always knew this day would come.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:17
We love you regardless, YodaCoffeeManCoderJer, despite your not-as-geeky-as-us state at the moment.

But, funnily enough, my favorite Zelda game happens to be Wind Waker. I've beaten Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, and Wind Waker 100%, and from my experiences within them, I can honestly say Wind Waker was more enjoyable and obviously the most unique out of the bunch. And I've beaten every single Zelda game, excluding Four Swords on Gamecube, which I'm having a hard time finding a copy of at the moment...

Yes, I've even beaten all the handhelds, including the Oracle's Linked games. I like Oracle of Ages better out of the two because of the better puzzles and time travel. I liked Seasons' last boss better, though.

Phantom Hourglass was basically a handheld Wind Waker, which I liked a lot. Considered beating it 100%, but decided against it since the release date for Spirit Tracks was nearing (I got a late start on Phantom Hourglass). The touch screen controls worked very well for both PH and ST, though ST implemented them a little better, being a sequal-ish thing and all. I still like the boat aspect better than a train.

Let's see, what else... Oh yeah, about Twilight Princess. The first time I played it, I started with high hopes and I was expecting it to live up to the hype, but while playing (on Wii & Gamecube) I couldn't help but be pushed away by the crappy wolf controls, the parts where you're forced to be a wolf, the meaningless sidequests, how boring the sidequests were, how useless the rewards for the sidequests were, how easy the game was, the use of recycled items, the annoying Wii waggle-waggle-waggle gameplay, how Epona was basically useless after gaining wolf form and teleports mid-ways through the game, the boring over-world, the bland twilight world AND overworld, the what seemed like hours worth of backtracking, the dissappointing Zant fight, the random Ganondorf plot device-ish thing, and finally, the flying controls on that twilight beast was terrible.

Or maybe I'm just nit-picking Twilight Princess to make my rant seem more interesting?... Who knows, although that's probably the case.


Ocarina of Time was a great experience back in the day, definitely. One of the best games around, back in the late 90s. But playing it today, as it is, you might be a little disappointed unless you're a fan of the Zelda franchise. That's just my opinion, though. Personally, I love the game to death, it's top five material in my books. But, looking at it from someone else's perspective, though, I can understand what it would be like playing through the game without being amazing by the graphics, gameplay, and new features that were presented in 1995(or so). Who knows.



Alright, I'm done.

My geekiness > Your geekiness


... *sigh* Should I be disappointed in myself that I can lay here in my bed at midnight and type something like this up about a fantasy game series? Or should I be pleased with myself? So confused...

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:22
Quote: "And I've beaten every single Zelda game, excluding Four Swords on Gamecube, which I'm having a hard time finding a copy of at the moment...
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Same! I guess it's just really rare

Quote: "Should I be disappointed in myself that I can lay here in my bed at midnight and type something like this up about a fantasy game series? Or should I be pleased with myself? So confused..."


Let me remind you that this is the TGC forums... Geekness.


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:27
honestly, no ocarina of time?! and instead you play wind waker? SHAME ON THEE Ocarina of time is THE best game ever made.


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:28
My favorite Zelda game would probably have to be Wand of Gamelon. It is easily the most immersive of all the Zelda games, thanks to the gorgeously rendered FMV segments, and the gameplay is truly unmatched by any other game in the series.
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:31
Wand of Gamelon? Never heard of it

Lemme google it for a sec. I feel ashamed, thinking I owned very LoZ game in existence (except for Four Swords - and apparently this now).

(Googles for a bit)

Wait, it's that CD version of Zelda movies or whatever? I didn't know that was a game


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:34
I can't believe you've never heard of it! You really are missing out.

I think these two videos serve as an excellent taste of what you can expect when you play this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaHlUlWHNTo
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 07:40
@Cheesecake:

That's shame to hear that about Twilight Princess (I'm considering picking up the Gamecube version soon). It's also a shame to hear that it's hard to track down Four Swords, as I really liked that game and unfortunately couldn't keep the copy I had since it was my cousin's.

Honestly, I really don't care if Ocarina of Time has worse graphics than the more current games. Graphics don't mean a lot to me (in fact I still play a lot of 2D games). And I've wanted to play OOT for years now, but I've just not had the ability since I don't have an N64 lying around and all emulations I've found are hard to control.

I also really liked Phantom Hourglass but also never completed it. Once I finish Wind Waker I plan to re-start it, and then play Spirit Tracks immediately afterwards. So far the only Zelda game I've ever completed has been Four Swords. I didn't have the patience to complete the first one on the NES.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 11:32
Quote: "Let's see, what else... Oh yeah, about Twilight Princess. The first time I played it, I started with high hopes and I was expecting it to live up to the hype, but while playing (on Wii & Gamecube) I couldn't help but be pushed away by the crappy wolf controls, the parts where you're forced to be a wolf, the meaningless sidequests, how boring the sidequests were, how useless the rewards for the sidequests were, how easy the game was, the use of recycled items, the annoying Wii waggle-waggle-waggle gameplay, how Epona was basically useless after gaining wolf form and teleports mid-ways through the game, the boring over-world, the bland twilight world AND overworld, the what seemed like hours worth of backtracking, the dissappointing Zant fight, the random Ganondorf plot device-ish thing, and finally, the flying controls on that twilight beast was terrible.

Or maybe I'm just nit-picking Twilight Princess to make my rant seem more interesting?... Who knows, although that's probably the case."


Maybe you're just bad at the Wii . It was no where as bad as you make it out to be. A true Zelda fan wouldn't have said such things .

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 11:43
i got to agree with cheese on the twlight part, twilight princess wasnt almost as good as i hoped it to be, I too, after playing OoC, started out with high expectations, and honestly it was great, until the wolf thing came in, then it was just a matter of switching between human and wolf and solving pussles which seems rushed and plainly booring. The world is also less fun and feels less freely than OoC, or MM, also I couldnt help but miss a voice in my head screaming "Hey! Listen!". Sure that other THING istead of navi was fine, but i would prefer an fairy.
The boss fights are WAAAY to easy and sometimes the enemys are harder than the bosses.

The first temple was AMAZING, but after that.... downhill.

They could have, skipped the wolf thing totally in my opinion.


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 20:51
Didn't they say (in the days before the Wii and TP were launched) that Twilight Princess' overworld map would be so huge that it would take players literally 40+ minutes to cross from one side to the next? Or was that a giant rumor? Wouldn't be surprised either way.

Y'know, playing Wind Waker on the Gamecube has made me realize something. While the Wii's motion control is really cool for some games, sometimes you've just got to play a game with a standard controller. I love motion control, but sometimes a game just feels more fun to play with a regular controller.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 21:36
problem isnt wether the map is big or small, it doesnt FEEL AS FREE as ocarina of time somehow


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Posted: 21st Oct 2010 22:23
Well, I don't know if I would go as far as to say that or not, OoT was a comparatively small game compared to Twilight Princess, it's just that the colors used, the environment presented to you and how it was presented made the world seem dull and gray.



Quote: "Maybe you're just bad at the Wii . It was no where as bad as you make it out to be. A true Zelda fan wouldn't have said such things"


Don't get me wrong, I thought Twilight Princess was a good game, but not nearly as good as the rest of the series. Personally, TP reminds me of some of the newer Sonic games. It had a gimmick it relied upon too much. Sure, the other games had gimmicks, but they were done well. As Quick said a post or two ago, TP would have been just as good if not better without the wolf parts entirely. Just adding a couple items which did everything the wolf done would have easily sufficed.

And I also played through on the Gamecube, as well, so you can't just say I was bad at pointing and waggling a remote.


Please take into consideration this is all just my experiences with the games, and yours may very well differ. Hell, everybody is different, and has different tastes when it comes to gaming. So don't be put off by me saying these things, CoffeeCoder, I'm just ranting my opinion here.

Astro Chickster
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 01:26
Quote: "playing OoC"
Quote: "than OoC"


OoC?

Meh, I got a bit stuck on the Forest temple as a kid. Completed both OoT and MM though.
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 07:48
hahaaha very true, hah^^ OoT**


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2010 06:46
Hmm...Gamestop.Com (in America) seems to have Four Swords for sale. Link (hehe, that's punny )

Of course it's pre-owned, so it may not come with the manual. That's a shame. They've also got the Legend of Zelda: Collector's Disc with the original game and its sequel and then OoT and MM. I think that'll be the next one I pick up as I've REALLY wanted to play both of those games for a long time.

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Posted: 23rd Oct 2010 12:49
Quote: "I can't believe you've never heard of it! You really are missing out.

I think these two videos serve as an excellent taste of what you can expect when you play this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaHlUlWHNTo"


Part of me feels scarred for life. I think it's the part of me that loves the Zelda series...

Astro Chickster
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2010 14:55
Mah boi, this game is what all true Zelda fans strive for!
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2010 14:57
i agree with insanity complex lol xD


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