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Geek Culture / Toronto is a very unsafe place........

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Eminent
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Well my dad just got robbed. And yet we live in a very "so called" safe place according to some surveys or something. Police are at my place questioning what happened now. Man, I can't imagine what would happen if we live in a more unsafe place.


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DJ Almix
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 05:04
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Quote: "Well my dad just got robbed. And yet we live in a very "so called" safe place according to some surveys or something. Police are at my place questioning what happened now. Man, I can't imagine what would happen if we live in a more unsafe place."


Right now, no where in the world is safe.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 05:05
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Unfortunately it can happen anywhere, even in the 'safest' places.
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kitty101
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Mate, everyone gets robbed or swindled in their lifetime.

Too bad my dad won't, last time some one tried to rob him with a knife he broke his leg. (Black-Belt + Hand to Hand combat training from army)

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Venge
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Maybe a place is labeled "safe" because of low crime rates, but that doesn't mean there is no crime. If I were a thief, I may be more likely to target those "safe" places because people such as yourself feel more secure and are less likely to have strong anti-theft security.
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Neuro Fuzzy
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Quote: "Too bad my dad won't, last time some one tried to rob him with a knife he broke his leg. (Black-Belt + Hand to Hand combat training from army)"

OH YEAH? WELL MY DAD...

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yeh... crap happens. You can't judge a neighborhood by a single incident, only by trends n rates. A safe town doesn't mean 0 crime. a small crime rate is still caused by a collection of people doing illegal stuffz.

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David Gervais
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Crime happens every day, often within sight of people. The sad thing is 'knowing' who (the dealers) what (the drugs) where (in plain sight) and when (as it happens) is not enough to get these guys arrested.

I once called the cops because I saw drug traffickers dealing outside in plain sight, told them where, when, said I'd be willing to 'witness' what I saw etc.. the cops told me that was not enough, they would need 'evidence' they told me I need to build up a case before any real action was made. LoL

What has the world come to.. I see and witness real 'crime' and I have to become an 'investigator' and build a case before I can even press charges? and in the same world a teenage drug dealer with a 'mad-on' can accuse an innocent person of a crime and the innocent person is immediately arrested and 'processed'.

Innocent people must 'prove their innocence' and to arrest criminals we require 'proof of a crime'. Further, today it's a cops job to 'enforce the law' it is no longer to 'serve and protect the citizens' when did that change take place?

There is a saying, "All that evil needs to thrive is for good men to do nothing." the laws seem to prevent 'good men' from taking action, or more like make it very hard for 'good men' to act against 'bad men'. It's a sad time we live in, welcome to the 'modern way of life'

nuf said, Cheers!

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Quik
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 14:47
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Quote: "I once called the cops because I saw drug traffickers dealing outside in plain sight, told them where, when, said I'd be willing to 'witness' what I saw etc.. the cops told me that was not enough, they would need 'evidence' they told me I need to build up a case before any real action was made. LoL
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they really should be able to come there and look into it... thats their job isnt it!?


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bitJericho
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 15:06 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2010 15:11
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The problem is cops can't search a residence without a warrant and a witness is not cause to get a warrant. I think that protects people like you and me

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Quik
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true true, but if someone was close by, they could possibly just go there and see if its still going on by the time theyre there?


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 16:34 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2010 16:35
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One problem is that when someone tries to rob you and even attacks you and if you defend yourself,he will not be guilty. At least thats how it works in our country.


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Judges and the police have gotten increasingly obsessed with the letter of the law and forgotten what laws are for! I read about these two 15 year olds who slept with each other, I don't know how it got to court but they were both charged for having sex with a minor and are now both on the sex offenders register, for life! Who's being protected there? The whole point of age of consent is to stop child prostitution, not to stop teenagers fooling around.

I don't know about the rest of you but I feel like I'm living in a world run by children. Where are the responsible adults that have a clue about what's right and wrong?


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The sun is a dangerous place.

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Quote: "Right now, no where in the world is safe."

What do you mean "right now"? The world has never been safe..lol Besides talking about Crime, Human Rights wrecked policing,at least in Britain, for instance a killer for some reason has more rights then the killer's victim. Although I don't agree with the death penalty, I still think Britain are too soft on sentences, in America life means LIFE from what I can gather, but in Britain you got two "life"s, one being permanent, and Life, the most common one which is only 12 years. Call me in-humane but if someone who has done bad I mean really bad, taking of another life, 12 isn't enough.. I'll end here, as this may be pushing a bit in terms of the AUP, but I just thought I'd air my thoughts.


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How about this example:

3 young guys push another guy over the edge, and the poor dude falls down 2 or 3 meters below on the rails. One of the culprits gets caught, and was released three months later! Seriously, if people are allowed to do that, then why on earth are there laws??
One more thing I don't get. A murderer does max one third of his sentence, so he'll do tops 3 to 5 years. Someone who commits fraude, must sit 10 to 15 years. Really, I don't get it.

And, I'll end it here too. Don't know if this is against the AUP, but I'm not gonna risk it.

Cheers

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Another example is this guy who raped a minor, only got two years in jail, came out and raped the same girl again!

The difference is little girls don't have loads of money and don't own big companies and have political connections that make them worth protecting. That's why fraud gets you a lot longer sentence than murder, because fat cats lose out.

but anyway we are straying off topic.

I think what makes a safe place to live is how connected the community is and how good the police are at communicating. We had a string of burglaries around my area last year but the police were really quick to get the message out and sent out these packs, which were pretty dumb and included a door handle hanger that said "this property is secure" lol, but it seemed to have an effect and there were no more burglaries.

I suppose this is the idea of the government telling us that there is a terror threat lurking somewhere! (AAAH!!) Is this supposed to make us more vigilant or just frighten us? Damn I went off topic again!


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2010 22:19
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Quote: "Right now, no where in the world is safe"

Not 100% safe, but I think here in Finland, Kittilä, it's pretty safe... but you don't have to try and prove me wrong!

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People seem to get mugged in every apartment complex I've lived in. The odd thing is that it never happens while I'm living there, only after I moved out.

Years ago, there were two men who were following women home from a local Kroger (grocery store). They followed my friend home one day so they knew where she lived, so the next night when she got off work, they jumped her at her front door! Luckily, she wasn't hurt and the culprits were caught when they attempted to use her credit cards. Lucky is an understatement, considering these men were linked with other similar crimes, including the last women they mugged, just before my friend, was found burned alive in the trunk of her car.


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Eminent
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The guys who mugged my dad were complete idiots. You take the cheap 40$ mp3 but dont take the 90$ headphones?


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In the past 5 years. I know 15 people that was killed over here in NYC. I got robbed plently of times and many of my friends and family is in jail. Most of my friends is in probation. Stuff like that happens all the time over here. There's no good way to deal with it, nor a bad way. You just got to deal with it in NYC, no-where is safe.

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Seppuku Arts
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We got pick pocketed in Barcelona.

When my brother was starting out as a chef, he worked at restaurant that was a little ways from town and not a place you'd expect any kind of trouble, they had an armed robbery. Thankfully, the police caught them.

It's not unusual for crime to happen in any town or city and there's always a chance that you'll become a victim, usually it strikes when you least expect it. But that's life my friend. I would say it stops a place from being safe, but when it does happen it will no doubt make you feel vulnerable.

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Quote: "Too bad my dad won't, last time some one tried to rob him with a knife he broke his leg. (Black-Belt + Hand to Hand combat training from army)
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You dad can get sued for that, I'd tell him to be careful. Seeing as he has professional training his body classes as a weapon which if he hurts someone can class as grevious bodily harm automatically. Even if someone is coming at him. He has to tell them 3 times he is trained in martial arts before he can knock them out. It may seem stupid, and I agree, but I'd hate to see if happen to your dad. I know someone who was taken to court for it when a bouncer started on him.

This is in the UK of course, it may not apply in the states etc.


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Hah,I live in Scarborough, a sublet of Toronto (used to be considered Toronto, until they realized Scarborough was in such a bad state that it needed to be separated, haha). A robbery sucks and all, but really there are far worse places out there. If your dad is physically fine and you didnt lose too much, consider yourself lucky.

Then again I dont know of any place in Toronto thats been labeled "safe", other than maybe the bridalpath area.
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Same, Scarborough. Yeah he's fine. This is really the first time I've heard of something bad in the place where I live.


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I live behind a strip club with a bar across the street, 'nuff said.


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Quote: "I live behind a strip club with a bar across the street, 'nuff said."


At least you don't have to go far for the local entertainment.

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Quote: "At least you don't have to go far for the local entertainment."

Or work
Phaelax is a strange stripper name.


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I don't know, I mean it leaves room for cheesiness:

"You can relax with Phaelax."

Or...

Just say it like

Feel-ax

I'm sure you've got a dirty enough of a mind to come up with something yourself.

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Hah I had no idea there was another person on these forums in Scarborough.
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But does anyone live in the real Scarborough?
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Seppuku Arts
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The one in the UK?

I don't know.

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Ah so I live in an imaginary land. Alright cool.
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Astro Chickster
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You live in a place named after a UK town, therefore the Scarborough is a lie.
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Quote: ""You can relax with Phaelax." "


Sounds like a laxative slogan.


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I went to scarborough this vacation, nice place
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