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Geek Culture / New Graphics Card ANGER!!

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Crazy Acorn
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Posted: 16th Nov 2010 14:09
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I am looking to add a Graphics Card to my computer and it is an NVidia GeForce GTS 450 for $110 But I was told I should make sure my computer can take such a card an I looked and most of the new Graphics cards require a PCI E-2 16x. I have a slot in my computer that says PCI E-1 16x. Will it still work? I have heard it will but not all the time or not as powerful because the card will still fit but the PCI E-1 16x has the power equivalent to a PCI E-2 8x??? Please help because this stuff always gets me... Thanks!

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Van B
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Posted: 16th Nov 2010 14:35
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I think it'll work, but you probably won't get the best from the graphics card - if your motherboard had the PCI-E2 slot, then it would take full advantage of the card, wheras the PCI-E1 should support it, but at a reduced performance.

At the end of the day, it'll run as nicely as your motherboard will allow it, so maybe a future upgrade will be a PCI-E2 supported motherboard, and it'll all work out. There's no real option though, it's not like using a PCI-E1 card will be better. I think your as well getting the card, at least it might be ready for whatever next motherboard you buy. I wouldn't see it as running the card at a reduced rate - I'd see it as running the card at the rate it can manage, which is probably fine for most cases. Half the speed does not necesserily mean half the performance - not if the card can handle what your doing without needing all that speed.

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Crazy Acorn
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Posted: 16th Nov 2010 14:47
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Thanks Van B!!!

I just wanted to confirm that it would still work but not at its best performance. Thank you so much!

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Erm, don't take my word for it tho mate - wait and make sure that nobody has concerns about compatibility between PCI-E1 and E2.

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Crazy Acorn
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Ok well I called NVIDIA tech support and they said it doesn't even matter because one just offers more bandwidth or something like that but I can run the Graphics Card but the only problem is that I need to upgrade my power supply!!! I only have 250 Watts and I need 400-450 Watts!!! How much is this gunna cost me.

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less than 100 bucks but i would reccoment at least 500. and ... you had a 250W PSU??? uhhhh makes me shiver. is your motherboard ok?

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Crazy Acorn
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Well I am defiantly not getting anything over 150! I know the new NVIDIA GTX 580 just came out and it was like $560!!!! Whew and I don't think my mother board is ok... But the computer was on sale xD. But yes I need to buy a 500 Watts for this to work.

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 03:24 Edited at: 17th Nov 2010 03:25
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by is your motherboard OK i meant like from all that time of grinding it with a 250W PSU. i ruined a motherboard with a 330W PSU once a brand new motherboard socket 476 p4 3.0 GHZ, 1 gig of ram a radeon 9800XT . after 2 months my new motherboard started getting tons of bluescreens and crashes. i kept reinstalling windows every 2 weeks. But then even a fresh reinstall couldnt save me from a bsod as they started appearing during windows installation. i didnt know anything back then this was my first serious computer build ever. got a new mobo and a new 650W PSU (complete overkill for that time)well maybe not as P4 did consume quite a lot of power. and anyway everything magically fixed itself and i nailed my old motherboard to the wall as a decoration (it was purple )

also maybe you can find a gtx 460 for $150. just sayin i heard good things about it

infact i own one but i never got a chance to test it out on full.

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 05:41
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haha well I guess its ok... Its not very High Tech and it only has an integrated graphics card so it really didn't "get hurt" but I guess I need to get a better power supply for the new card and the GTX 460 is really good but I was looking at the overall performance for most games and this one was pretty descent... And it was pretty cheap but I looked at the GTX 560 and the one I am thinking about getting has 65% of the performance of the 560. Also it has DX11!!

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 11:52
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750Watts £32.98

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Crazy Acorn
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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 14:36
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Thanks spy Daniel.

I will keep that in mind but they are out of stock right now and I live in America so I am going to need it shipped or something.

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 19:33 Edited at: 17th Nov 2010 19:35
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From my experience, I'm pretty sure PCIe 1 works with PCIe 2 very nicely. The performance difference shouldn't be noticable unless your setup is on borderline of a games system requirements

for a 450W graphics card (which I presume the GTS450 is) a 650W power supply should be fine

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Crazy Acorn
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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 20:49
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Thanks I might be getting a good one today

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Posted: 17th Nov 2010 23:31 Edited at: 17th Nov 2010 23:33
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I wouldnt reccomend the cheaper PSU's, for them to be that cheap, there wont be as realiable as a slightly more expensive model.

Antec Earthwatts green 500W

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other antec psu's are quite relaible. Worked with 3 over the years and never had a problem. ( Personal view of course)

Should run quite nice.


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ahhh Lazerus... I have seen this one before and I am probably going to buy it.

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