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Geek Culture / Thinking of getting a kitten because my life sucks.

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PAGAN_old
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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 10:23
i am not gonna go into the whole thing why my life sucks because noone want to hear me complaining. the only thing is i live with my grandma who is extremeley negative about everything and we hate each other/ also i pretty much have no friends (cept for you guys!) and i recently realized that i need some lifeform in my apartment with a more positive outlook on life that would cancel out my grandmas negativity waves of doom. or ill go insane just like everyone else in my family. Anyway i though maybe i should finally get a kitten since i was alway a big fan of cats and lolcats. Just feel like hearing any advice from a cat owner. I just need someone to have a decent conversation with and cats are sortof good listeners. I tried talking to my computer several times but its kinda evil keeps saying stuff about draining my soul and i dont like that...

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 10:52
I just got a kitten last Friday. She's great...turns out the fleas in my apartment are worse than I knew. I've never had any in my room, and don't even now. But my kitten wandered the apartment and got infested T_T Problem will be gone this friday though...

At any rate, a cat is a great companion. I also find them to be easier than dogs. If they're litter trained, it's a lot easier to deal with their "mess" than dogs. I love dogs, don't get me wrong, but I like cats more just because of their mellow, low maintenance tendencies.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 10:56
HAhhahaa! cats are the best... My cat would always give me company every time I was around him... he ate poison and died all my cats died best to have a house cat then they wont take off all the time like my cats did and ended up getting hit by a car or poisoned. There more likely to live longer as a house cat.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 10:57
I wouldn't get your hopes up, kittens, and indeed cats in general cannot speak. What they can do, is make you realise just how futile human emotions are - you can be in the worst mood in the world, yet a little cat can change that with just a look.

I'd say get a cat, hope your grandma is allergic, and have a laugh with the little blighter. With a positive outlook on life, life will treat you better, you have a better chance of 'everything'. I think getting a kitten is a good idea, almost as good as moving out of your grandmas house.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:04
If you get a kitten, be absolutely sure you won't influence it's life negatively as well. There have been cases of dogs going insane because the owners were depressed and hugged them too much, and never let them go. If you are sure you're not one of them, and you can give your kitten what it wants when it wants, and won't force it to stay near you when it doesn't want to, then you're fine

My cat is the cutest thing, he loves sitting on my lap while I program, while I watch movies... He loves lying next to me on my bed when I sleep... He always sticks by me, no matter where I go. But he always has the choice to go outside, eat something, lie somewhere else etc...

If I look at my friends cat, she has to be the stupidist thing... Precisely at 10:30 AM she comes inside to eat. If you go near her to pat her, she hisses. And as soon as she's finished, she get's out of there and doesn't return until the next day... Please don't get something like that... Make sure you treat the kitten as good as possible, then it will also grow up to be a good cat.

What if you try and sort some stuff out with your grandma? Talk about it. Maybe take her out to do something special. Give her some time and show her that you love her. If you find out why you hate each other, you should solve it as soon as possible.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:05
Quote: "is make you realise just how futile human emotions are - you can be in the worst mood in the world, yet a little cat can change that with just a look."


My kitty is one of few existing beings who can get away with pressing the wireless button on my laptop while I'm in the middle of an online gaming session, without me raging. Cause I get mad at me, she just looks at me with an expression like "What do? o.O", and I can't be mad anymore.

Slowly teaching her that despite how warm my keyboard is, lappytop is not a kitten bed....considering disabling the wireless touch button on my laptop...kitten has already turned it off on me 3 times in the last two days...

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:09
Nice van B I decided to get a cat as mentioned above because of their low maintenece. Dogs are just tooo friendly. my friends dog constantly wants to lick my face. Also there might be a concern. The terrain of my apartment is kinda dangerous siince i have tons of computer parts everywhere and some of my computers are open case. (i am working on this super computer thing thats made out of a bunch of computers still dont know how i would accomplish it and the thing is evil so dont ask) my concern is the kitten might either get hurt walking all over my motherboards or make a nest inside of a computer or eat my heatsink paste or something. the thing is i dont have much room in the apartment where i could keep that stuff oout of cats reach

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:13
A pet is a huge commitment, and does your grandma want one? You shouldn't get one unless all in the house are onboard, even if you don't like all in the house

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:23
well my grandma proboly wouldnt mind a kitten. but then again there is a nother problem. Grandma is blind like completley so she often drops her pills, you can find quite a few in ther floor, under the furniture etc, i cant constantly clean up after my grandma as she drops many things on the floor like knives in the kitchen. that might be a hazard for a cat like what if the cat eats a pill he finds on the floor?

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 11:25
Quote: "that might be a hazard for a cat like what if the cat eats a pill he finds on the floor?"


That sounds like the type of problem that you may want to have completely fixed before you get a kitten...because yes...they will chew anything and everything that they can...at least once

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 12:04
Quote: "because yes...they will chew anything and everything that they can...at least once"


And, depending on what they chew, it will be the last time they can chew.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 12:14
yeah i seriosly dont think i am ready to take on the responsibility of a cat. not with my lifestyle and hobbies.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 14:19
Get a hamster there fun as hell to hold hahaha but they stink!
And you put them in a little ball and they run all over the place hahaa but you wouldn't be able to let him out because of your grandmas pills and stuff

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 14:33
Get a Wombat

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 14:34
Yeah, maybe not a good idea to get a kitten if there's risk involved, a cat though would probably be fine, most cats are quick to learn what's safe to eat etc, so a cat might be the sensible option instead of a little kitten. Save getting a little kitten until you have your own place.

I think you still need to do something though, because it sounds like your dwelling. Find something to do to get you out of the house at least once a week, you need an escape. The best, healthy escape I've found is mountainbiking, although it's not a great idea to do that on your own - it's a good way to unwind.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 15:55
i get out as much as possible walking the city listening to music, altho its getting boaring and you might run into some unpleasant company like the time i was walking home and this drunk guy mistook me for some friend, jumped on my neck and broke my new headphones that cost 20 bucks but that wont stop me. as for my grandma she is an old communist conservative (i guess its kinda like an ulra right wing republican from an american point of view) so i cannot by any means change her mind about anything and i tried for 2 years already. so her neagativity gets me down a lot, thats why i was thinking of getting a cat because as said earlier they have that ability to heighten your mood just by being there. i distract myself from this negativity by being in the computerland a lot like surfing the web, playing games, watching movies and eating a lot of junkfood (snacks make me happy) Also i am designing a game but since i am stuck with the programming i just draw concept art and charecter desingns and stuff but in 15-20 years its gonna be the next greatest game ever youll see

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 16:46
i have 4 cats now, 3 were kittens at one point. And yes, they do lighten my mood at any given moment because of their innocence and mischief.

If you have your own room and its fairly large, it would be ok to shut your door with a kitten in their. But make sure they have a litter box, and food/water in your room.

If the kitten or cat ever makes signs it wants to be let out, do so, but keep an eye on it , as you dont want it eating those pills.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 16:57
Quote: "i have 4 cats now, 3 were kittens at one point. "


Sorry to disappoint you, they were ALL kittens at one point. rofl

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 17:34
i meant, when we first owned them

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OK sorry if this gets the forum locked. i don't mean to bring in religion but my dad is a pastor, he forced religion on me ever since I was very young( literally forced) sop as i got older and got my own place I dropped my religion and tried to be me. looking back there happiest times I had was when i did good things like saying my prayers and such.

its hard to explain but you cant let circumstances make you. I understand where your coming from i had to give up my apartment to help my diabetic mom before the end. ( while she was always friendly, it was rough)

I know I'm starting to ramble but i don't think an animal will help you right now. buddy you better learn to hit your knees and ask for help. I have honestly learned that sometimes asking a higher power for help goes a long way. even if it's just to help keep you sane.

again sorry i bringing in religion offends people. ( yes i kind of know it's against the rules so I apologize couldn't help myself.)

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 18:19 Edited at: 18th Nov 2010 18:23
My advice. Move out and live on your own. Nobody, including god, will help you. You have to help yourself.

It's noble if you're your grandmother's caregiver, but if it's not what you want to do, you owe it to yourself to go do your own thing. Find some other support for your grandmother. She probably wouldn't want you to have to put your own dreams and ambitions aside for herself.

I don't know where you live, but I know in the States there's a lot of government programs where they'll send out caregivers for the disabled. That would allow you to stop having to be her caregiver. There's also lots of church programs. I know too in my town, there's a taxi service free to the disabled.

If she's just your roomy and she'll be on the street otherwise, I can feel your pain, and I certainly can't say I'd evict her if I were in your shoes.

In that case you should find someway of counteracting her evil rays of doom. A cat won't do it. Find her some friends, and you might find you'll be able to get your own friends.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 18:46


Buy one.


Actually what you should do, is maybe move out. Although depending on your situation I don't know what the best plan is. If your just trying to re leave general negative feelings maybe try something small.


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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 19:59 Edited at: 18th Nov 2010 20:04
Quote: "I know I'm starting to ramble but i don't think an animal will help you right now. buddy you better learn to hit your knees and ask for help. I have honestly learned that sometimes asking a higher power for help goes a long way. even if it's just to help keep you sane.

again sorry i bringing in religion offends people. ( yes i kind of know it's against the rules so I apologize couldn't help myself.)"


It's possible that it may help religious folk, whether there's divine intervention or if it's just the 'talking' that helps. Though I don't think it's necessarily the answer for everyone. For example, I don't think it'd be possible for me to turn to any deities, then again, I'm an atheist, so it'd be rather paradoxical of me.

But of course, I won't speak for other people's experiences out of respect not only for other people, but forum policy too. I think 'talking' can help any individuals with the weight they have on their shoulders, there's organisations that exist with the goal of 'listening' to people so they can help themselves lift some of that weight. I've signed up to volunteer for one myself, called The Samaritans, so hopefully, I'll be able to help people out.

But I think as far as actual problems go, I think people have the power to solve them and don't necessarily have to rely on other entities to solve them for you, be they divine or otherwise - but that's my view. Though obviously, your life is met with a dilemma (having to looking after a family member), I am always of the opinion there's always means of finding something good in your life, so there's no need to despair, even if it's easier said than done.

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Well i just learned to deal with it and not givi it too much thought. the thing is my grandma believes that i have to help her and stuff. the thing is she was a teacher during her career then the school board counsil speaker reperesentative person so she is used to the fact that she always gets her way and noone ever goes agains her. andme being the pretty much the first person to disagree about her on many things gets us into verbal fights a lot and we threaten each other with suicide a lot. its kinda bizzare considering that suicide attempts run in our family.
anyway i am not serios about committing suicide i just learned to deal and ignore it. and btw everyone in my family is a godless communist

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I have two cats lol, Ninja and Tuna. Cats are a programmers best friend, as they dont require as much attention as dogs, but are just as fun.
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Posted: 18th Nov 2010 23:34
Quote: "A pet is a huge commitment, and does your grandma want one? You shouldn't get one unless all in the house are onboard, even if you don't like all in the house"


Wrong. At least not cats, we just have to let the cat in and out of the house a few times every day, feed it, and take it to the vet every once in a while. Dogs however need more care, and you have to walk them, just that is a pretty big commitment. But cats are more independent and just need to be fed basically.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 10:50
Get a platypus

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 11:01 Edited at: 19th Nov 2010 11:06
Quote: "anyway i am not serios about committing suicide i just learned to deal and ignore it. and btw everyone in my family is a godless communist"


Figures :S Just sayin' there's always a way out if you really want out. Remember it's always your choice.

Quote: "Wrong. At least not cats, we just have to let the cat in and out of the house a few times every day, feed it, and take it to the vet every once in a while. Dogs however need more care, and you have to walk them, just that is a pretty big commitment. But cats are more independent and just need to be fed basically."


Yeah? And what happens when you want to leave for a week. No, they're not as needy as a dog, but they still need a commitment of time and money. And you really shouldn't let the cat out, it can hurt the local ecology.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 13:35
Quote: "And you really shouldn't let the cat out, it can hurt the local ecology."


If you keep a cat inside for its whole life you're an uncaring bastard. Don't get a cat if you can't let it out.
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Quote: "If you keep a cat inside for its whole life you're an uncaring bastard. Don't get a cat if you can't let it out. "


That's why I don't own a cat. Anyway, if you let your cat out and it kills endangered birds, you're more of bastard.

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I think a lapdog would be better, in my opinion dogs are more caring and affectionate animals, or maybe thats because of all the scratch marks


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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 14:14 Edited at: 19th Nov 2010 14:15
Quote: "Anyway, if you let your cat out and it kills endangered birds, you're more of bastard."


Apparently you're not aware of the circle of life.
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They're an invasive species not native to france with few natural predators. So if by circle of life you mean man destroying the environment by the release of cats and promotion of wanton destruction of native species, then yes, you are right.

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I like kittens, too bad I'm allergic... I was surprised to hear, that many people on our class hate cats... :/

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 15:18
Quote: "So if by circle of life you mean man destroying the environment by the release of cats and promotion of wanton destruction of native species, then yes, you are right."


You drive a car, do you not? This damages the environment more than a few dead birds ever will.
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Quote: "You drive a car, do you not? This damages the environment more than a few dead birds ever will. "


What's the harm in it since you're killing all the birds anyway.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 16:11 Edited at: 19th Nov 2010 16:12
if you just want a furry lump to sit in your bed all day then a cat is a great pet.

oh and i think jerico2day is funny.

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Quote: "What's the harm in it since you're killing all the birds anyway."


See, me owning cats means you can drive a car without the guilt that you might be damaging the environment.
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 17:05
I'm glad we can see eye to eye

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 17:10 Edited at: 19th Nov 2010 17:19
Quote: "They're an invasive species not native to france with few natural predators. So if by circle of life you mean man destroying the environment by the release of cats and promotion of wanton destruction of native species, then yes, you are right."


There's a difference between non-native domesticated animals and wild ones. Our local ecosystem hasn't suffered as a result to the number of cats in our village. Why? For a start, the population of cats is controlled, unlike releasing say, squirrels into the wild they're not: A) competing with other animals for food or consuming most of the food B) they're not breeding freely. Also, we still get birds of prey, meaning the cats aren't stealing their meals, from what I've seen, local birds are far better hunters than cats.

Whilst yes, cats will bring in the odd bird, but not enough to hurt an ecosystem. Cats aren't hunting for food if you're feeding them properly. They're more likely hunting out of instinct rather than hunger. This means less of a demand for birds, meaning a cat is going to kill fewer of them.

I see more dead animals on the road than around my village. At least my cats don't bring down deer, however, I've seen deer dead by the road side, and they're rarer than the swallows or rabbits the cats bring back, at least locally. Human population means a distinct lack of woodland, though there is woodland around, it's mostly fields around here. Foxes and badgers too are found dead on the road. Cars have no natural predators and are capable killers of any local wildlife.

If I lived in a city or town, I wouldn't own a cat because I'd have to keep them indoors. I think it's cruel to keep an animal shut up. Cats hate being shut in. At least with a dog they enjoy being taken out on a leash or you can set them loose in the park. So if I were a city slicker, I'd be more inclined to own a dog.

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Quote: "There's a difference between non-native domesticated animals and wild ones."


Well, yes, house cats aren't as big a threat as stray cats are. Stray cats are a huge nuissance, especially in the country.

And yeah it's great to say let's get rid of cars too, but many of us need cars for survival. House cats don't need to go outside for survival.

There was a time when you could look at the sky and the sun would be blotted out by birds (there's stories if you read around). Cats aren't the primary cause of the problem, but they are a problem.

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Quote: "Yeah? And what happens when you want to leave for a week. No, they're not as needy as a dog, but they still need a commitment of time and money."


Then you get a friend or relative to watch over it, or send it to a cat hotel.

Quote: "And you really shouldn't let the cat out, it can hurt the local ecology.
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What?

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Cats are probably the least of your worries concerning ecology and the environment.

There's much MUCH bigger issues at hand. The local ecology has suffered a lot more from humans (like farmland and expanding civilization) than by cats. Do cats help? If they're keeping the rat and mouse population culled, then it means the farmer doesn't need to use pesticide. Our farmer stopped using it from the same reason. Has having cats hurt other populations? They do hunt the local birds - it hasn't meant birds of prey have suffered, especially as they're better hunters than cats, but our birds as common as anything and the same with rabbits. So I'm a lot less concerned about what my cats are doing to the environment.

There are many day-to-day niceties that aren't necessary for survival that have an impact on the environment and I don't see people giving them up until an eco-friendly solution is found. I mean, you browse these forums, you're using electricity, you're increasing your carbon footprint. Why do you need to use your PC for pleasure? Work, maybe, but pleasure? I don't think there's much room to criticise people like me and Benjamin for offering our pets their freedom.

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There's other issues too, by letting your cat out, you subject him to the possiblity of disease, death, or injury. All for a perceived perception that it's cruel not to let it out. Seriously guys, it's just a cat. What's with all the hubub?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 19:26 Edited at: 19th Nov 2010 19:27
But that's life. Or should we all just shut ourselves indoors everyday to avoid the risks of the outside world? Some quality of life? By going outside myself I'm at risk of disease, death or injury.

What's with the hubub? I don't know, you brought up how by letting our cats out is dangerous to the environment. We just disagree and feel it's not that big of a deal. We're owners who care about our pets, so if they want to go out and explore the world, what's the big deal? It seems like something small to be making a big deal out of.

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Quote: "Seriously guys, it's just a cat."


Right. So it doesn't matter if it's unhappy, it's just a cat.
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Quote: "But that's life. Or should we all just shut ourselves indoors everyday to avoid the risks of the outside world? "


What? It's a cat, not a person. It will live contently in your house and unless your from Africa, it doesn't belong outside.

Quote: "What's with the hubub? I don't know, you brought up how by letting our cats out is dangerous to the environment. We just disagree and feel it's not that big of a deal. We're owners who care about our pets, so if they want to go out and explore the world, what's the big deal? It seems like something small to be making a big deal out of."


Don't care if you disagree or not, it's true. It doesn't matter what your opinion on the subject is.

Is this the best you guys got?

Quote: "Right. So it doesn't matter if it's unhappy, it's just a cat. "



My cat ^^

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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 23:14
It seems you're getting worked up over nothing.

Herakles
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Posted: 20th Nov 2010 05:32
I have three cats, all of them perfectly happy and content. One outdoor cat, and two indoor ones. The outdoor cat is a plague to the local wild rodent and bird populations and is a mean old grump to most humans, but the indoor ones are the sweetest cats I've ever seen, even nicer than most dogs I've seen. Indoor cats are obviously far better pets than outdoor cats.

Slayer
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Posted: 20th Nov 2010 05:54
@Benjamin lol having a cat in the first place is wrong then hahahaa because they are wiled and you did a cruel thing by domesticating them. Pretty soon cats will be cooking there own food hahahaaa

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