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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 17:48
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I had an old 360 lying around with the supposed RRoD problem. After a little bit of research I found out the only cause of 3 red rings was overheating. This troubles me as my room is freezing cold, yet as soon as the console is powered on it displays the 3 red rings (obviously it can't have overheated in this short space of time).

Following various bits of advice I tore the thing apart, ripped the heatsinks off and gave them a good cleaning, prepped the surfaces and applied some fresh high quality thermal paste. I've also done away with the X-Clamps and bolted the thing down firmly. Yet whenever it is powered up I get the same 3 red rings.

Any ideas?

I've tried a couple of different power bricks too, so not sure where the issue lies.

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Master Man Of Justice
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 17:59
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haha, anyways, the RRoD is caused by a previous overheat of your 360.

It was a poor job on microsofts part with soldering the gpu to the 360.

I would have suggested sending it to microsoft for a fix/replacement.

They also send you a free 1 month card.

but seeing as you already took it apart, there are a few things you can do.

I would suggest heading over to a forum dedicated to modding 360's and such, they will provide better info then we can.

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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 18:03
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Well, it's well out of warranty and I actually picked it up from a car boot sale to stick in the basement (knowing it had RRoD). From what I've heard if it's overheated so badly it melted the solder it's possible to reflow it by removing the heatsinks. Bit gay seeming as I spent so much time and effort putting them on, but hey ho.


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bergice
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 18:29
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I know it sounds pretty much insane but i have done it several times on our old 360 and it has always worked.

Its called the Towel Trick... Or something like that.

You basically wrap the 360 in a crapload of towels and make the room really hot. Then you turn on the 360 and let it stand like that for an hour or something and then you remove the towels and turn it off.

Then you let it cool down a little and it should work.

Its because it melts something inside of the 360 thus causing it to work

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-the-Xbox-360-Towel-Trick

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Indicium
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Yeah my friend did that with 2 xbox's he's owned over the years... he's on his 4th now so obviously it's no a permanent fix

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The Wilderbeast
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Thanks for the advice, but I'm not even going to attempt that one. It works because the hot air inside can't escape and so the inside of the console heats up like an oven, causing the BGA joints under the GPU to re-join (in some cases). It also causes just about every component on the board to overheat.

After a bit more research it is recommended to overheat the GPU by itself for about 45 minutes, by powering on the console but covering up the fan to the GPU, but leaving the CPU fan on so that doesn't overheat. I shall report back in a minute xD


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heyufool1
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Yea, you're kind of screwed. However, I found that on my RROD Xbox that if I just spam the eject tray and power button over and over again for about 20 seconds that it occasionally works. I even did it today and it's working right now after about 2 weeks of RROD.

"So hold your head up high and know, it's not the end of the road"
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Ocho Geek
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 21:33
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4 xbox's?

Blimey, I'd just use a PC. I do, actually

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Indicium
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Yeah lol, to be fair, one was a RROD'd xbox a friend gave him to see if he could get it to work.

He uses a PS3 now.. but I didn't want to kill this thread.

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heyufool1
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After 2 weeks of failure my xbox has turned on successfully 4 different times, after spamming the buttons... Have I just found a simple solution

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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 19th Nov 2010 22:25
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Well, I can successfully say that the overheating trick does not work in this case. So, I am left with one option... reflow the solder. Should be fun xD


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