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Geek Culture / WoW : Cataclysm

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Zeus
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 14:59
Well today is the big day. I am going to pick up WoW: Cataclysm and begin a new adventure with the goblin and worgen race. I will get the game later on today. Anyone else excited about this?
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 15:03
not really. i've only played the game about 2 weeks all year.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 15:26
I am kind of excited XD installing it now. More excited about getting back playing with my friends again than anything else tho
and to make a goblin! <:


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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 16:02
Annoyed that I couldn't play SC2 last night due to this being put on the servers.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 16:28
Roomie stayed up all night playing it. Said he wanted some achievement for being the first level 85 warlock on his server.

Given that it's finals week here, I chose to express my excitement by sleeping instead.
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 17:18
I just bought my copy and we're gonna play this with friends tonight. Too bad I'm gonna have to install EVERYTHING as I have deleted the game from my hard drive.
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 17:39
Quote: "Roomie stayed up all night playing it. Said he wanted some achievement for being the first level 85 warlock on his server."


he is probably not the only one, so GLHF to him xD

Quote: "EVERYTHING "


game only takes about an hour, if ur downloading it obv depends on ur itnernet lol, but should take an hour or two, also the patch is 9gb so that might take a while....
and the there is addons lol xD


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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 17:50
NOOO, Argent Dawn is officially locked xD, waiting now, 1103rd in queue
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 18:33
kazzak too >__<'


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lazerus
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 19:37
Its the end of 80% of the players lives.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 20:41
, went for dinner, got disconnected, now I'm 2000st in line
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Posted: 7th Dec 2010 21:51 Edited at: 7th Dec 2010 22:28
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Posted: 8th Dec 2010 13:34
I managed to play some before school today (about an hour) and halfway to lvl 81, WAY to fast to level imo.
I love the worgen noob area, same with goblins actually^^

and I love the graphical improvements (too k a brake in about 3 months, and came back yesterdayso it was def worth it xD)


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Posted: 8th Dec 2010 18:01
this is (sorry for double post) unacceptable, kazzak has been full with 2k queues 2 days in a row now, if they dont give us free mig from kazzak soon AFDADFDAFSDA and they didnt expand the servers for cataclysm? Cant Blizzard think forward?


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Posted: 8th Dec 2010 20:26 Edited at: 8th Dec 2010 20:27
We have the same thing on Draenor (EU)

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Posted: 8th Dec 2010 20:30 Edited at: 8th Dec 2010 20:31
And on Argent Dawn ( eu ),

But yeah, they gave us free migs to steamwheedle and darkmoonfaire, but those are the realms I was dodging ( for lack of better word ) when going AD....
Zeus
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Posted: 8th Dec 2010 23:13
Alleria (US) is actually holding well. No big problems here, but I hear there are a lot of problems with getting into Echo Isles (US).
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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 07:05
yay free migs, but they should have extended the servers already before the release, and with christmas coming soon.....


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 07:51
Dinged 84 just now. 1. more. level >:}

Had a little nerdy get together on release date.
Now I am 2000th in que
BAD thing about Cataclysm.


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 08:35
there is as of now 4 very bad things about cataclysm
1st the extreme queues
second the extremely quick 80-85, it takes approx 3 hours to get to 81.. thats very very booring
and third the stacked quests, wherever i go there is simply stacked quests, no use exploring anymore and in the cata exclusive content (vash'jin ie) there is simply a loooong quest line
it is an MMO, I WANT EXPLORING.
and then we got the fact that iam actually exchanging my epic RAIDING GEAR for GREEN CRAP GEAR

good thing tho is that I have to actually FIND the instances before I find them


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 09:01
The green crap gear is better than the raiding gear but lowers your gear score right?
Bloody annoying I know
To many quests I'd say. Wowww.


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 09:33
Quote: "gear but lowers your gear score right? "

no
it has higher GS. like 20 higher
that just feels like a slap in the face IMO


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 11:30
Cairne server is doing nice, I'm liking my new Worgen and the underwater area I'm in with my 80 Pally. cool stuff.

Cheers!

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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 15:35
I'm a paladin too! Protection PvE and Holy PvP.
And yeah, the new starting areas/characters are really nice. I'm loving the textures on the goblins and Worgen.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 19:21
I'm holding out till after the holidays to pickup Cat. I want to play it very much, but decided to be patient. I remember the last two exp launches, so decided to wait this one out.


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 19:34
I currently have a waiting time of 170 minutes, used to be 925. Biggest problem atm, people are scared of waiting qeues so they go AFK instead of logginh out which means that in 2 hours I went from 1100 to 792 place...... This sucks, I think I will get the free mig to darkmoon faire...
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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 20:06
I have a level 38 Blood Elf pally and just started a Night Elf druid with my buddy.
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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 20:42
if this doesnt change befor ethe 14th, iam migging to whatever it is again .. xD free mig from kazzak to something anyhow..
xD


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Posted: 9th Dec 2010 21:04
[childish taunt]Pssh Level 85 cap? Final Fantasy XI released their latest expansion on monday, Heroes of Abyssea and the cap has raised to level 90! Oh yeah my MMORPG is like so better than yours! Wurd [/childish taunt]Still I'm a level 60 Dark Knight(main)/30 Samurai(sub), so my taunts mean nothing.


My brother and sister play WoW so they're pretty excited, my brother pre-ordered it, so he got it the other day and my sister ordered it this morning, they both have got the Special Editions, or whatever they are, the version with the £60 price tag or whatever it was. Not even I go that mad over a new game release, I won't normally pay over £40 and if it is £40, it's got to be something I really want, otherwise I'm patient enough to wait until it goes down in price. And I'm supposed to be the biggest geek out of the 3?

My friend works in GAME, apparently only 7 people turned up to the midnight launch, which I suppose is surprising as I think the COD and Kinect launches were a lot more popular. I guess there's fewer WoW geeks in this chav town.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2010 23:57
I'm not going to get into a debate why WoW is A hydrogen bomb in the Foundations of society

But as a Non WoW player I shall enjoy having an (possibly wrong) feeling of moral superiority over you

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Posted: 16th Dec 2010 13:50 Edited at: 16th Dec 2010 13:53
I feel sad, they promised harder content and we already steamrolled through all heroics and only missing a few achievements for the drake.

So far it's nice though, much better then the boring easymode Wrath expansion was.. I actually have to WATCH my mana now, and think about who to heal, instead of spamming a single spell over and over again! Tanking has become much better as well.. Hell, even Arcane Mages are less of a no brainer now.

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Very very hard mobs in lvling areas tho, I have died a lot of times xD and a single mob can take me down to 20% hp, however the instances are easy, I just hope u actually CAN WIPE now..

4 bars to 85 and then it seems my PC broke >__> installing on laptop now..


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Zeus
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Posted: 16th Dec 2010 16:55
I am only a mere 43, you guys make me feel like a n00b. lol.

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Oolite
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Posted: 16th Dec 2010 17:16
Someone give me a reason to play WoW...

I'm not trolling or trying to flame. Nothing I've ever heard about the game has made me ever want to play it. The closest I've got to playing an MMO is Eve and I didn't even start playing that. I've just never seen the appeal.

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I thought the same thing, before I tried it. Why don't you go on Blizzard and get the 10 day free trial to see what it is like?

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go on, sell your soul to the devil

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Quote: "Very very hard mobs in lvling areas tho, I have died a lot of times xD and a single mob can take me down to 20% hp"

Nah, leveled an Arcane mage to 85, everything died before it got close to me.. No challenge at all.

Quote: "however the instances are easy, I just hope u actually CAN WIPE now.."

You can, in heroics.. When there's braindead Wrath players around.. Otherwise it's still fairly simple, until you forget the green stuff kills you instead of the red stuff

Quote: "Someone give me a reason to play WoW...

I'm not trolling or trying to flame. Nothing I've ever heard about the game has made me ever want to play it. The closest I've got to playing an MMO is Eve and I didn't even start playing that. I've just never seen the appeal."

No, we can not make you like a game nor give you a reason to. It's your own opinion, you either feel like playing it or you don't.. I mean I highly dislike shooter games, while most other people enjoy them. I just don't see the appeal in them

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Posted: 16th Dec 2010 20:57 Edited at: 16th Dec 2010 21:03
Quote: "Someone give me a reason to play WoW..."


Reasons to play an MMORPG (I don't play WoW, so I'll just give you a general account):

There is a social level: MMORPG's at the end of the day are designed to be social. Sometimes, it is important to the game that you do take on the social side of things. Final Fantasy XI does this, if I want to complete Chapter 3 on the Windurst missions, I need to be able to pass what people call '3 mage gate', you need a White Mage, a Red Mage and a Black Mage to pass it. To finish the quest that increases your level cap from level 55 to 60, there's no way in hell you'd complete it on your own. You'll die. Simple as that. Of course that doesn't mean you have to be really sociable, there's people on my linkshell (same as a guild) that barely say anything, but I've got a big mouth, as you can imagine.

It never ends: You don't complete an MMORPG, there's always something new to do. Think, Final Fantasy XI was released in 2002, it is STILL having new content added, even though Final Fantasy XIV was released not too long ago, the 'Heroes of Abyssea' expansion was released last week and Square promises there's going to be even more. FFXI has 4 main expansion packs, 3 add-on scenarios and 3 battle area add-ons. They have added new areas, new missions, new abilities, new quests, new equipments and raises in level caps and in the case of the main expansions, new jobs/classes. There's simply no way you're going to be able to do everything. So you can keep on going with an MMORPG and put in lots and lots of hours, I've probably put in over 400 hours into FFXI.

Gameplay factor: What does it offer over a normal RPG? The gameplay design is very similar to other RPGs out there, you'd probably pick gameplay based on your own personal preferences. World of Warcraft plays differently to Final Fantasy XI and both have a different feel, and many would argue that Final Fantasy XI is a lot more challenging, that can be a good thing or a bad thing. For me, it's a bit of both, I find difficult moments in a game to be entertaining, but they can also be frustrating. FFXI has broken my sanity before.


There are of course, cons with MMORPGs, sometimes there's some unnecessary running around that's tedious. To become a Dark Knight I had to use a sword that hit 10 times every minute, which is also fairly weak and use that sword to kill 100 enemies. To become a summoner, to accept the quest, I had to get an item called 'Carbuncle's Ruby', which is only dropped by Leeches and they have a very low drop rate, I probably killed 120 leeches before it dropped, somebody I know got it within about 5. Then you have to take carbuncles to see 7 different weather effects, so it means hunting down different zones in hope that the right weather effect is on. I suspect WoWers suffer similar tasks.

People can be d-bags too. But that's life. You can meet lots of lovely people and join a guild/linkshell/group/whatever of perfectly decent people, so d-bags aren't something to be put off by. If you're running a party, warn them, if they persist, kick them out. I had one guy get really mouthy with me because I refused to steal another party's camp (who were there first and said they wouldn't be long), everyone in my party, but one guy didn't mind moving to the crappier camp for a short while, that one guy left once I stood my ground, so no kicks necessary. My linkshell doesn't allow for d-bag behaviour (even swearing isn't allowed), so it's a pleasant place to communicate with folk, so I try to get as many people from there as I can for parties and don't have to deal with idiots so frequently.

Another con is that they ARE addictive. It can become a problem if you allow yourself to become addictive, it does just happen to geeks with no lives and with a lack of touch with reality. It's just the way they work - you hit one target, then another one comes, so you want to hit that and so on. "Oh, I hit level 60, well, come on level 70!" I've been level 60 for 2 weeks and I've barely played this week, I might hit level 62 at the weekend, 63 if I'm lucky, as I might do a grinding session. I know some people who went from level 85 to 90 within the space of a few hours, after the cap was increased, even all-nighters. I don't do that. It's a silly thing to do in my mind - I don't need to go up 5 levels THAT urgently.

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Wow, you are AWESOME AT SPACING!!!

Most people would have left that as a wall of text, or like me, ident almost every line so its a wall of text * 2

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Quote: "Wow, you are AWESOME AT SPACING!!!"


Sepp is a writer, Of course hes good at formating his text walls.

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And a writer who makes stupid errors:

Quote: "It can become a problem if you allow yourself to become addictive"



I'd give anything to be addictive.

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Got my arcane mage to 85 three days after release and JUST got my dk to 85. Did a free realm change seeing as the realm I usually play on is over populated.


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Quote: "it does just happen to geeks with no lives and with a lack of touch with reality"


no. just no, everyone can become addicted to a game, u dont have to be a geek to be addicted to a game, as you dont have to be the cool guy to become addicted to drugs. I have a perfectly normal social life, but yes, I am addicted to WoW as I am with computers overall.
Having a good social life does offcourse reduce the risk, but it is still there.


on another note: I HIT LVL 85 TODAY but now i need 8 more iLvl to go HCs >__>


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Quote: "I'd give anything to be addictive. "

im addicted to your spacebariness << new word of the day

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Quote: "Another con is that they ARE addictive."


I once tried the World of Warcraft free trial. It took longer for the game to install than it did for me to get bored with it and stop playing. I can't wrap my mind around how anyone could stand playing it for more than two hours, let alone get addicted to it.

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Quote: "I once tried the World of Warcraft free trial. It took longer for the game to install than it did for me to get bored with it and stop playing. I can't wrap my mind around how anyone could stand playing it for more than two hours, let alone get addicted to it."


Truth to be told with the old content it didn't really get fun until you were at level 70 raiding Kharazan, before that it was mostly hardcore grinding crap all day. Now the entire world has changed and all the quests are far more interesting with fun gimmicks added, aside from Outland.. Which is still a boring grindfest.(And a godforsaken questhelper with which people STILL fail to do the simplest quests because they can't read.. Oh the joy?)

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Posted: 17th Dec 2010 12:23 Edited at: 17th Dec 2010 12:23
Quote: "Someone give me a reason to play WoW..."


I can give you some reasons not to play it: It's addictive (as it's designed to be, since addictive games make more money) and a waste of time. It's only after you've stopped playing an MMO that you realise that most of your time was spent on 'chores' in the game rather than having fun, and that you've lost all of that time that you could have spent doing something productive in real life. But everyone's different I guess...

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Quote: "no. just no, everyone can become addicted to a game, u dont have to be a geek to be addicted to a game, as you dont have to be the cool guy to become addicted to drugs. I have a perfectly normal social life, but yes, I am addicted to WoW as I am with computers overall.
Having a good social life does offcourse reduce the risk, but it is still there.
"


That was my failure at typing, I meant, doesn't.

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Quote: "Truth to be told with the old content it didn't really get fun until you were at level 70 raiding Kharazan, before that it was mostly hardcore grinding crap all day. Now the entire world has changed and all the quests are far more interesting with fun gimmicks added, aside from Outland.. Which is still a boring grindfest.(And a godforsaken questhelper with which people STILL fail to do the simplest quests because they can't read.. Oh the joy?)"


Well I for one would rather spend my time playing a game that is fun right from level 1, like Dragon Age or The Elder Scrolls. I don't want to have to spend hours upon hours doing mindnumbingly repedative and boring "fetch" quests in order to get to the fun ones.

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Quote: "Well I for one would rather spend my time playing a game that is fun right from level 1, like Dragon Age or The Elder Scrolls. I don\'t want to have to spend hours upon hours doing mindnumbingly repedative and boring \"fetch\" quests in order to get to the fun ones."

Well.. Most of the new content involves 20 minutes of starting zone, and then awesome blowing poopoo(can't say the word I wanted to use) up effects, or war zones. Then again I skipped all that and am just focussing on getting raid gear right now..

And the downside of ANY RPG is, you'll always be doing boring grindy 'Fetch' quests.. Some just cover it up a little more then others.

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