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Mike Johnson
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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 18:11
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Model Pack 52 is now available!



For more details please check http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2285
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Cyborg ART
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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 18:15
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Cool!

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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 18:21
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Awesome!!!

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Scurvy Lobster
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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 18:38
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Ordered! Had to do it...

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JRH
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Its worth buying this just for the projected shadows. I might have to consider it... XD

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Cosmic Prophet
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Ordered today, Can't wait to try them out. Thanks Bond, Hope the pack does well (I'm sure it will).

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The Storyteller 01
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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 23:04 Edited at: 14th Dec 2010 23:06
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Looks great but I have a single question:

How do these awesome character look like ingame when I choose to turn shaders off in the build? Do they just look "bland" or won't it work at all?

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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bond1
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Posted: 14th Dec 2010 23:06 Edited at: 14th Dec 2010 23:07
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Quote: "How do these awesome character look like ingame when I choose to turn shaders off in the build?"


They will absolutely look horrible. They REQUIRE shader effects turned on.

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The Storyteller 01
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Thanks for clearing that

Btw: What I definitely like about this pack most, is that the characters are (mostly) usable for Horror, Science Fiction AND Fantasy games alike.

Great Job!

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Very inventive! I really like the spiky one. That was a nice effect.
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Flatlander
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 00:55
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Great.

I, too, like the porcupine monster. Medusa monster must have been very hairy all over to have snakes show up all over the body.

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Wow I really like this pack. I love how there wasn't a progress thread too just a few vids because seeing just completed makes all the cooler. In my opinion anyway. Nice job Bond1! You rock

Go ahead. Walk into Mordor.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 05:43
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If only we had an HD version of the video. 480p isn't big enough, but from what I can see, it looks rather epic.

Too much to do with too little time.
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 06:06 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 06:07
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Quote: "If only we had an HD version of the video."



Here you go, the HD version of the video. It's very large, but has all the eye candy you could ever ask for: http://mjblosser.com/viraloutbreak_video.zip

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Great, thanks bond.

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Fantastic, just found my Christmas present from me to me...

Saw the Youtube vids and can't wait to try the projected shadows effect!

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hi,

yes this pack is awesome !

but i have posted on the forum a post about a "resident evil pack" or something and people answer : "ho, there will be problem of copyright" and the post was forgetted.

and here, we have 2 characters who very looks like to 2 monsters in the saga resident evil :

_the one with many peack on his body is the copy of the regenerator of resident evil code veronica;
_the one with the worms on his body is the copy of the same in resident evil 5 (i forget his name).

and probably the others...

maybe im wrong but the similarities are big.

PS : sorry for my bad english.
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Scurvy Lobster
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I am about to try out this pack but which version of FPSC should I be using? V117 final, V118 beta 1, 2 or 3? Beta 3 seams to be a bit unstable in some aspects.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 11:06 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 11:06
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Quote: "I am about to try out this pack but which version of FPSC should I be using? V117 final,"



Go redownload 1.17 final and use that, Lee has uploaded a minor update to 1.17 that includes the new bloom, as well as a script command to hide the blob shadow, which is needed for this pack since these characters don't use the blob shadow: http://files.thegamecreators.com/fpscreator/FPSCreator_Upgrade_117.zip

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Lewis
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Just ordered. These will be perfect for Alpha Project!

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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 14:32
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Very Nice!
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Metal Devil123
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 14:36 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 14:39
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Quote: "and probably the others..."

No, the others are Dead Space inspired and propably... doom? Am I right?
But I don't think there'll be too much problems with the models.

And the death to Medusa... absolutely amazing!

You know I saw this picture on Facebook, and I was wondering, did you change that or is there a variation for this guy to move like that? Just asking, if there isn't, doesn't bother me, I'm just a curious man.

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@ oxid....
This is not a copy right Issue since the models are made from scratch.
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Thanks for helping on that one!

Quote: "Go redownload 1.17 final and use that, Lee has uploaded a minor update to 1.17 that includes the new bloom, as well as a script command to hide the blob shadow, which is needed for this pack since these characters don't use the blob shadow: http://files.thegamecreators.com/fpscreator/FPSCreator_Upgrade_117.zip"


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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 16:24
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I just wonder how many polygons does the medusa have.. i think it may not run on my computer

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Some Company of Heroes maps.. and something else too.
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 17:46 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 17:48
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Quote: "This is not a copy right Issue since the models are made from scratch."


I see that like plagiarism, whatever if the models have been made from scratch or not.


The characters are awesome, but I don't know if I will buy this MP, because the characters have been already seen in Dead Space and Biohazard 4 & 5...

Please apologize my bad english, I'm French.

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Quote: "The characters are awesome, but I don't know if I will buy this MP, because the characters have been already seen in Dead Space and Biohazard 4 & 5..."

@RelMayer: If you happen to know a game that is full of creatures we have NEVER seen before, please tell me its name! I can't wait to play it

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 18:25 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 18:25
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Doom 3 and Far Cry perhaps ?

Please apologize my bad english, I'm French.

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bond1 you are a true artist! purchased


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Quote: "Doom 3 "

Are you talking about the never seen zombies? Or the demons? Or the giant muscular creatures?

Or the same giants from Far Cry? The monsters in Far Cry arn't that original eather.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 22:17 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 22:19
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Quote: "Doom 3 and Far Cry perhaps ?"

I meant a game made in 2010
The last original monster I counted as such was the Snork from STALKER.

bond1 wrote that this MP is "inspired" - theres nothing wrong with that.

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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Posted: 15th Dec 2010 23:41 Edited at: 15th Dec 2010 23:56
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Most people "get" that these are original models inspired by popular games, they are not identical at all if you place them side by side. This pack would be a fantastic way to make a fan game which many people like to do here, and I've provided a way to do that.

I can go on Turbosquid, and other "pro" model sites, and there are high quality carbon copy models of Optimus Prime, Gollum, and many other iconic characters sold for much more than this model pack. Not to mention replica models of famous cars, guns, etc.

So, a few people singling out this pack because some of the characters look close to other game characters makes me scratch my head. But, no one is required to get this pack if they don't want to.

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bond1, you've done it again!

Pingas. Period.
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bond1 I want know what happen to the diffuse map that had a CG look of texture? like the d2 texture map you have in the other model pack of the characters. if you have those diffuse map I will pay you for them for these characters. I really need those cg looking diffuse texture. please and thank you.

more than what meets the eye

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bond1 is correct regarding these inspired models, but maybe a license for non commercial projects should be made regarding these models. The price though is a snip and well worth it just for the shadow shader itself!!!

I see this more of a shadow shader pack with model examples to show off the shader and not a model pack per say.

I would have thought if you used these models in a commercial project you would get panned by critics and reviewers, just my opinion............
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Quote: "I see that like plagiarism, whatever if the models have been made from scratch or not."


Does that mean that any models based on soldiers are copyrighted from Call of duty? The models are similar to those from other games and may be based on them, but this is bond's own work so I don't see it as any problems with copyright.

On topic: This is an amazing mp bond1 and I've been eagerly awaiting it's release ever since it was first advertised on the facebook page..congratulations, you've got my purchase

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Quote: "I would have thought if you used these models in a commercial project you would get panned by critics and reviewers, just my opinion"

Half of the threads of the WIP contain "remake", "fangame" or parts of well-known game names in the title. So you really think those devs have a problem with the models not being 100% original?

A lot of people in the FPSC community have a hard time coming up with new ideas or haven't got enough trust in their ability to create an original background so they are thankfull for any MP that reminds them of something they know.

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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I purchased on the day of release and this pack is absolutely stunning. Its a historic moment to have dynamic shadows for characters in FPSC and it makes the overall graphics an order of magnitude better.

With the release of V117 and bond1's shaders, 2010 has been the making of FPSC and its great.

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One question. If I use planar shadow shader on character, can it still be normalmapped? And are shadows on walls too or only on ground? I will still buy this even if you can't use normalmapping with this or shadows does not work on walls, just asking..

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The maps required are:
_D2
_I
_N
_S

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@Bond1: I could really use some help with the shaders here and there:

1. The Normalmaps look different, they seem to be negative images of the usual (violet) Normalmaps. Is this necessary or are the usual ones good too?

2. I really don't get how I should make the _S Textures...what should I take care of?

3. Any tipps for non-monster charactermodels?



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@Wolf,

I dont mind answering those for you.

1. It doesnt matter what normal map you use, as long as its a normal map.

2. The S texture is a slight reflection of colour on the character. If you make the S map blue, the character will have a tint of blue reflecting on the model.

3. Try not to make the S map too shiny and dont have the normal map over the top. Keep it subtle.

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Is there any movie like MP22 or we have to learn everything by ourselves?
I know it is easy to understand but I just wanna know.

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@Lewis
Thanks for your help!

The Charaters have a lot of pitchblack body parts, even in lit areas...any help?



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Quote: "1. The Normalmaps look different, they seem to be negative images of the usual (violet) Normalmaps. Is this necessary or are the usual ones good too?"


The characters in this pack use a special, high-quality normal map that is different than a regular normal map. Another cutting-edge feature of this pack. It uses high quality DXT5nm compression from the CUDA-enabled Nvidia Texture Tools 2: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/texture_tools.html

The "template" shader, which is included in the pack, only requires a "regular" normal map. But if you want to re-use the shaders that the characters in this pack use, you will need to author your normal map using the Nvidia Tools in the link above. Most users will just want to use the template shader instead, as it only requires a legacy, "regular" normal map for ease of use.

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Continuing my previous post above, here is a comparison of regular normal map compression versus the high quality DXT5nm algorithm these characters use in this pack. Notice the pixelation when zoomed in on the left image. The high-quality compression on the right preserves these gradients even when zoomed in. You can get away with using a lower resolution normal map without artifacts. Neat stuff.



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I am getting this right now! Bond 1 you are AMAZING!!!
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bond1 I would love my character models to burn up when they are destroyed like the medusa in your pack, any chance of a tutorial to enable this effect??

Thanks
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Quote: "if you used these models in a commercial project you would get panned by critics and reviewers, just my opinion"

Panned??
Gold miners go panning all the time, and it pays off for some of them.

I'll be using them for whatever comes to mind.

Just ordered today, but I won't get to play with them for awhile because I am started a research project after the holidays that will probably tie me up until March.

Thanks again BOND1 & TGC !!!!

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Quote: "The characters in this pack use a special, high-quality normal map that is different than a regular normal map. Another cutting-edge feature of this pack. It uses high quality DXT5nm compression from the CUDA-enabled Nvidia Texture Tools 2"


@bond1 - Please can you do a tutorial on the new super normal map creation process? The normal maps on the characters in this pack look stunning.

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