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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 13:06 Edited at: 4th Jan 2011 13:10
Recently my wife opened an On-line ISA Fixed account with a nameless bank (called the Halifax ). She was sent the details of the account and last week made an on-line transfer for the initial fixed investment.

The investment was rejected because it was a "fixed account" - in other words after the initial investment we can't add to it (because it was fixed ). The account had been set up by the Halifax with an initial investment of £0.

The Halifax tell us that we now have to send a cheque to set up this particular "on-line" account.

I wonder what they'd do when cheques are discontinued in a few years time? I suppose we'd have to turn up with a wheelbarrow of cash.
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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 13:27
Yep, I had to go hand over a cheque to start my online bank account!

I closed my Halifax account the day the guy refused to give me my cash until he'd tried to sell me a pension, savings account etc... He sat there with it in his hand, and pulled it away when I went to take it!!!!

I have to say, the Halifax customer service I've received has been pretty dire.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2011 07:42
I've heard lots of stories about Halifax.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2011 14:34
Quote: "I've heard lots of stories about Halifax."


Are they good?

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Posted: 7th Jan 2011 18:12
I doubt it.

My wife is even more miffed now that I've set up an identical account using just an internet transfer plus a phone call. Her cheque will probably get "lost in the post" just to add to the fun.
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Posted: 7th Jan 2011 18:35
The abby/ santander are very good for service. Never had a problem and if theres suspicious activity they freeze your account and phone you stright away.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2011 13:35
I've had problems with them too.

I'd like to know what bankers get their bonuses for - for devising ever more complicated ways for us to log on and move funds around I suspect.
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Posted: 8th Jan 2011 14:19
Ive never had a problem with HSBC.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2011 14:20
Quote: "The abby/ santander are very good for service. Never had a problem and if theres suspicious activity they freeze your account and phone you stright away."


I'm with Abbey/Santander and I'm not impressed. They actually have the worst record for customer service...

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/banking/2010/08/santander-worst-bank-for-customer-service

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511980&in_page_id=2

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1298320/Santander-fails-test-customer-satisfaction-hits-lowest-mark.html

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Posted: 8th Jan 2011 15:13
Quote: "I'd like to know what bankers get their bonuses for"

Share price relative to rival banks, and profitability. It's got nothing to do with how well they treat their customers.

Just to buck the trend and hand out a 'well done' to a bank, I have a savings account with Lloyds that had a 1-year bonus attached to it that expired recently ... and they let me know about its expiry before it happened, and converted it to their next best savings account, which has it's own 1-year bonus attached!

The last time I had an account like that, the bonus expired unannounced, and the account was converted to a standard low-interest savings account - I only noticed because of the lower interest deposits.

So, well done Lloyds for getting it right this time

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Posted: 8th Jan 2011 15:26 Edited at: 8th Jan 2011 15:27
Your stories remind me of Wells Fargo here in the states. If you want to wait in line 30 minutes for any particular transaction and then get sold "services" when it's finally your turn, bank at wells fargo.

Needless to say, I use a small, local bank. They greet me by name when I walk in

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Posted: 9th Jan 2011 13:17
Quote: "Just to buck the trend and hand out a 'well done' to a bank, I have a savings account with Lloyds that had a 1-year bonus attached to it that expired recently ... and they let me know about its expiry before it happened, and converted it to their next best savings account, which has it's own 1-year bonus attached!"


Useful to know. I think I'd expire if my banks did that.
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Posted: 9th Jan 2011 20:33
My primary bank (President's Choice) doesn't even have any buildings, so it's completely free for unlimited debit transactions and anything else I need. It's pretty sweet If I absolutely need customer service I can call in, but they don't have to waste money on buildings.


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Posted: 10th Jan 2011 12:43
Quote: "If I absolutely need customer service I can call in, but they don't have to waste money on buildings."


Sounds like they've passed the costs on to their staff. Where do they work?
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Posted: 10th Jan 2011 13:18
Natwest was my worst experience with a bank, ever. Barclays have been pretty good with me so far.

Whilst I was with some freelance teaching I did, when I went to check my account out I was just about 1600 quid down into an overdraft I hadn't even opened. I had been with them for 10 years with no problems up until now, so I went in to find out what was happening and I got almost the entire staff looking at me completely confused. My bills then began to start coming out of my account which had no money in it and i started to recieve unpaid notice charges of 38 quid each. Four of them in total. Then, each week for about 2 months afterwards they tried to take the 38 quid out, which they couldn't because the problem hadn't been resolved, and i recieved another 38 quid charge because the 38 quid charge couldn't be taken out
I had called up my employer and asked for proof of payment which they readily supplied to me and my statement had also shown that the money had reached my account. What it didn't show was where nearly 3k went, but the end result still showed a negative 1600.
I had been in the bank multiple times to figure it out but all I was met with were confused looks and the typical saying of 'we'll call you'.
I had asked to speak with a supervisory adviser multiple times to no avail, but in the end I finally got to sit down with one. He had the cheek to sit there and try to sell me their savers account because I 'need to be more careful with my money'. Needless to say i was furious and much to my regret I went absolutely mad. The only thing i've managed to get from them so far is to waive the charges that were created when they tried to take out my previous charges.
I'm currently going through a messy legal procedure trying to find out what happened and why they won't give me the money I'm owed. Luckily the lawyer is family so it won't cost me half as much as I thought it would. The account is still open and is still deep down into that overdraft, but I moved to Barclays who have been exceptional so far. My only problem is that I can never understand the people at their call centres...

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Posted: 10th Jan 2011 14:02
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I'm with Abbey/Santander and I'm not impressed. They actually have the worst record for customer service..."


Sounds about right - when Abbey became Santander (or...Satan...der!)I've heard plenty of folks I know who are with them complain.

I used to have a Woolwich account, but they merged with Barclays, my Dad used to work for Barclays and he pretty much advised against me keeping my account. It's still open, but it's inactive and I took out the £1.30 that was left in there.

At the moment I'm running with HSBC and I think they're a decent bank. When I went over my overdraft limit, instead of putting deadly charges onto my account (unlike Lloyds TSB did with a friend or my brother with Santander) they phoned me up and sought the best possible solution as to not hurt my credit rating or give me unnecessary charges.

A friend who was with Loyds TSB went in because he needed an extension on his overdraft limit, all he needed was his bank card, 5 minutes, no questions and they did it for him.

HSBC on the other hand, when I went in, they sat me down at one of their desks, asked a few questions and went through my credit rating (which was good), but I was denied my overdraft by their system, when I asked 'why?', they had to go through a budget planner, to see what I was spending and what was coming into my account and found I was spending roughly the same amount that was coming in, so my account wasn't generating enough turnover for them to grant me an overdraft, as they couldn't be sure I'd have the money to pay back my overdraft. Whilst yes, it's annoying I didn't get an overdraft extension (I needed it because of Student Finance England's mess up), but it suggested that they're sensible bankers, not giving away money they can't be confident they'll get back. The Lloyds TSB friend suffered more money trouble than I and can't have been generating more turnover on his account. To me, giving out money you can't be sure you're going to get back isn't sensible banking, isn't that a part of the reason why the economy is a mess?

Again, HSBC vs TSB, when I got my account, they asked if I wanted a credit card as well as my debit card, when I asked, "do I need one?" they responded, "probably not" and left it at that. Every time my friend went into Lloyds TSB they just kept asking him until he eventually gave in, trying different methods of persuasion.

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Posted: 10th Jan 2011 19:26 Edited at: 10th Jan 2011 19:29
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Posted: 14th Jan 2011 01:29 Edited at: 14th Jan 2011 01:30
Quote: "Sounds like they've passed the costs on to their staff. Where do they work?"


They have a call centre if I need. I imagine their costs are acquired from interest, but I have no idea for sure. They are associated with another major bank that has the standard brick and mortar buildings, so they might be partially funded by them. All I know is that I have no costs for anything


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Posted: 14th Jan 2011 02:21
Quote: "Share price relative to rival banks, and profitability. It's got nothing to do with how well they treat their customers."

Share price relative to rival banks has (at least partially) to do with how well they treat their customers.

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