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Phaelax
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I never noticed this with my HD movies, but I have with BluRay and hi-def channels on tv. The audio volume varies far too greatly. It can jump from a whisper of people talking, to an annoyingly loud explosion. Hasn't anyone else noticed this?

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Fatal Berserker
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Yeah i hate it when that happens.
Or when someone makes a youtube video with an extremely load entrance then is quiet in the rest of it.

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Indicium
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does your tv have some sort of volume leveling setting?

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Phaelax
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This isn't just my tv. It's on multiple tvs with various sources from DVDs to cable boxes to digital copies. If it was just my tv then it wouldn't make sense for my HD player to not have issues but my BluRay would, both connected with HDMI.

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Benjamin
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That kind of thing annoys me too. Thought about buying a compressor?
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I know it can be annoying, but it does really adds to the atmosphere when explosions etc. are mega loud. If you want the "cinematic experience", you gotta listen to your movie loud!

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Slayer
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Try running the sound through a digital out/fiber optic.
I have a receiver and a my computer supporting digital sound...
damn sure sounds good! I never had a problem with my sound on it.

The thing is RCA gives out a muffled sound... and it makes music
and movies sound like crap. With digital, you get the very best
of the sound without having to buy expensive speakers and such
to enjoy your music, movie...ect.

I'm sure most TVs these days that are digital have an output for
digital/fiber optic.

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Phaelax
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Well the audio runs through HDMI on my stuff, but what about in the case of digital movies on the computer?

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Quote: "It can jump from a whisper of people talking, to an annoyingly loud explosion. Hasn't anyone else noticed this?"


This is a beautiful thing called high resolution sound, I would give anything for it. Basically the sound on non high-def media is of a smaller resolution, meaning that there is a smaller range of finite volumes the sound can take (as it is digital). To make everything as loud as possible they compress the hell out of it, meaning that quieter sounds get louder and loud sounds get quieter - thus the dynamic range of the audio is reduced, but the average amplitude / volume is increased.

With high-def audio there is no longer any need to do this because they have a much greater resolution to work with meaning they can make the loud parts loud and the quiet parts quiet without needing to fiddle with the dynamic range. If you ask me this is a good thing!


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Slayer
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Posted: 16th Jan 2011 22:43
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With a receiver you can adjust allot of the sound to fit your needs... and also with the computer... I dont have any problems
with my sound... hahah use headphones.

My ps3 uses the HDMI and the sound goes from very high to very low
and it also drives me crazy! Im going to try later today and connect
my ps3 to my sound setup and see if I can fix all the crazy
through the receiver.

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Benjamin
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Quote: "I know it can be annoying, but it does really adds to the atmosphere when explosions etc. are mega loud. If you want the "cinematic experience", you gotta listen to your movie loud!"


I completely disagree, but I know a guy just like you who thinks the same. Suffice to say I don't like to be round his place when he's watching a movie.
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It's annoying to me because I live in an apartment and I constantly have to adjust the volume to hear the quiet parts and make sure the loud parts dont bother the neighbors...

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you guys need to look into volume normalization.

I also hate it (but adore it in music) To each their own.

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Posted: 17th Jan 2011 20:28
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I am the kind of person who goes to the cinema and thinks "I wish they would turn it down". *sigh* where did it go wrong

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Quote: "I completely disagree, but I know a guy just like you who thinks the same. Suffice to say I don't like to be round his place when he's watching a movie."


I've got a big ol' TV, 5.1 THX digital surround sound, a 500 watt subwoofer, blue ray player, and a detached house with double glazing. My movies are cranked!!!

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Quote: "I am the kind of person who goes to the cinema and thinks "I wish they would turn it down". *sigh* where did it go wrong"

:S
when I was like 8, whenever I went to the movie theater, my ears hurt really bad, so I had to wear earplugs. Now I guess my hearing has just degraded to the point where I don't notice any pain!

I remember seeing this graph of hearing quality over time of native americans, and hearing quality over time of urban dwellers (top and bottom average bounds). By the time urban dwellers were like 60 they had about half the hearing quality of year 0 ( ), and native american's hearing had barely degraded at all.
I don't remember where I saw it and i can't find it again, so i guess it's not reliable info tho.

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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 18th Jan 2011 05:11 Edited at: 18th Jan 2011 05:12
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I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. Your ears can only handle about an hour of 100 decibels per day (that's cumulative). Over that and you start potentially damaging the nerve endings.

In Urban environments this is easily surpassed, Just by doing every day stuff like Riding the bus, Moving the lawn, chopping wood etc - By the time you notice the loss, it's too late.

Was only talking with a 20 something YO at my sisters birthday a few weeks back, and he'd just been diagnosed with nerve damage caused by over exposure from his most likely an mp3 player.


Hmm, I wonder what's coming in 2011?
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Phaelax
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Posted: 18th Jan 2011 05:18
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I've seen kids walk by with their mp3 players and their headphones are so loud I can hear the music clearly.

Just a few months ago, I had my hearing tested for the army. While it wasn't quite as perfect as the kids 10 years younger, it was still considered excellent. I like the quietness of early mornings, guess that means I'm getting old.

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Posted: 18th Jan 2011 18:47
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nah, It means your parents were getting old when you were growing up

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