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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:24
Ok guys. Before I even get started, this is NOT a religious post or anything like that. It is simply a post of curiousity.

What are your guys opinions / ideas on the mayan AND hopi prophecies?

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:45
They didn't make any?

It's like seeing this code and thinking that 100 is the highest number that exists:


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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:54
I thinks its a load of voodoo crap to be honest. I mean look at this:

Y2K: Nothing happened

2008: Nothing Happened

2012: Nothing Happened

2050: Maybe something will happen (Nuclear War)

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:56
What about their predictions of solar flares?

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:57
That happens every 11 years

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:01
i know but they said this time it would be catastrophic.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:04
Nasa said it was going to be the weak

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:05
N.A.S.A.

Not. A. Straight. Answer.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:09
Quote: "Y2K: Nothing happened"

Wasn't Y2K an expected apocalypse just because it was a new millennium? I thought it was just a fancy new number and some people look at new even numbers as scary I was only 7 at the time so...

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:11
yeah it was. I dont beileive in any of this sooo i wont be visiting this thread anymore

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:17
There's always something that can potentially wipe out all human life or all life on earth, so as long as there's an ancient prediction (or something perceived as a prediction) for the end of the world, there's always some potential danger out there that could offer it credibility for those more likely to believe. Solar flares is one, global warming could be another, human conflict, the frequency of earthquakes and natural disasters and so on.

I don't think it's going to happen, but if it does, then it does. It's not as if I can do anything about it. Unless of course, Captain Planet can save us?

Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:18
or we find another planet.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:18 Edited at: 28th Jan 2011 17:19
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html



I'm going to trust they guys with the super telescope. But like said, if it happens, it happens.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:24
I agree with you vent. The maya callender is just like ours at home. After that one ends a new one is then done

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:31
The Maya's didn't predict the end of the world on the December of 2012, but it means that the humanity evolves to something better, or something important happens, afaik, that's what I heard about it at least.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 17:34
I totally agree.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 19:03
Maybe the Hadron goes live, breaks, and we all get mutant powers!?

Because that's more likely than Mayans predicting anything hundreds of years out of their reach.

It's like Nostradamus, his prophecies were so vague that people automatically pull information to make it credible. They apply his vague predictions to events in the world and made it seem plausible for him. Same with the Mayans.

It's essentially the Kuleshov Effect.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 19:28
The Kuleshov Effect...hmm sounds Russian...wait a minute! Russians, of course, they'll be the end of the world, they'll nuke the Yanks, the yanks will nuke the Chinese and the Chinese will nuke the French (yay!) and the French will surrender, then Korea will feel left out and nuke everybody else.



I take it, I've taken the Kuleshov Effect on board quite well?

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 20:20
Kinda, my example's only vaguely Kuleshov - people making stories of unconnected pieces of media.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 20:24 Edited at: 28th Jan 2011 20:27
A man will one day wear a tophat in glasgow on a sunny day juggeling grapes while humming the jurrasic park theme tune.

Vaugeness x no time frame = pretty much gonna happen.

Edit; except a man walking down a street in glasgow with a top hat. He'd probably be running and or being mugged

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 22:01 Edited at: 28th Jan 2011 22:05
Quote: "A man will one day wear a tophat in glasgow on a sunny day juggeling grapes while humming the jurrasic park theme tune. "


Added to my bucket list.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 22:25
Quote: "Added to my bucket list. "


Heroic.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 23:01
Quote: "N.A.S.A.
Not. A. Straight. Answer."

... but yet you have enough belief in vague predictions and invented prophesy to post here about it, and to agree with someones post about 'something is going to happen'?

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 00:44
Quote: "opinions / ideas on the mayan AND hopi prophecies?"

There is no opinions and ideas other than theirs. The others are random nonsense.

The mayan theory is that every X years there will be a near era in which there will be a new race of man. The current race will end and the new race will take over, but instead of like an invasion it happens instantly. Abit like the Christian belief of the end of time (and how purgatory ends).

The human race doesnt evolve into something better, but instead restarts along with the rest of the world. Abit like reincarnation. We are something like the 10th era of man, and on 2011 it will go to the next era.

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Quote: "The mayan theory is that..."

The Mayan theory is that there is no theory. The current calendar ends, and then ... it starts again. Just like every other calendar in the world does.

Any other theory you hear about was made up by someone trying to sell you their latest book.

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 01:29
Quote: "Added to my bucket list. "




Quote: "Any other theory you hear about was made up by someone trying to sell you their latest book."


Yup yup media hype over everything, mostly preaching to the idiots and causing general social panic. Its expected that police presence was to be tripled on the run to said day to prevent looters and other idiots running amok. Mostly like chinese whispers, in the end does it really matter? As said above it ends it ends, diddely squat you can do about it. I'd rather not know tbh, just cause too much strain knowing you have a set date to die on, just get on with my life till said day and go down singing with an arm around a family member and bottle of absinth in the other

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I don't believe anything will happen. I'm not a conspiracy theorist or will I ever be....

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 02:10
Quote: "2012: Nothing Happened"

Oh, we have a time traveler amongst us!

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Quote: "Quote: "2012: Nothing Happened"
Oh, we have a time traveler amongst us!
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I lol'd

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 07:10 Edited at: 29th Jan 2011 07:11
Quote: ".wait a minute! Russians, of course, they'll be the end of the world, they'll nuke the Yanks, the yanks will nuke the Chinese and the Chinese will nuke the French (yay!) and the French will surrender, then Korea will feel left out and nuke everybody else."

Hahahaha, that was freakin hilarious.... "And the french will surrender, then Korea will feel left out....

LMAO good stuff, good stuff.

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 13:31
Indeed. I have seen the future! There are flying cars and the american government is now the enclave. (I hope)

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 13:53
as long as there's no Lycra jump suits we'll be ok!

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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 14:07
This is exactly the same as the millennium bug. Why are people so stupid to think "AAAh, we've run out of numbers! the world will eeeenn... oh it just reset to zero"


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lol i checked and we ARE doomed



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Posted: 3rd Feb 2011 13:58
What about that blue star that NASA recently found that supposedly is headed towards earth?

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I'm sorry? Are you listening to Not-A-Straight-Answer now?

There's a super-massive blue giant that has been thrown from the milky way (not heading towards us), or there's a supernova near the galaxy centre (not heading towards us) and they are both shown with a little blue in them, purely due to colour-enhancements of infra-red images.

Or is it some other rumour that you've heard of.

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On July 16, 1945 the human race committed suicide. We're just experiencing the death spasms and waiting for it to be all over. It's not a matter of "if" something happens but "when" someone nukes us all to oblivion and it has nothing to do with the Mayans or Hopi or any of the other 2012 prophecies I learned about on the History Channel. It's just human nature. To paraphrase Chekhov (the playwright not the Star Trek character): If there's a shotgun over the mantle it's gonna go off before the end of the play.
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I'll see you all in 2013. That's a promise.
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World War 3 will destroy the world in 2017 so who cares.


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Quote: "american government is now the enclave."


This is all irrelevant because the nukes don't land 'til 2077, right after we all get a free Mr Handy from RobCo.

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Quote: "I'll see you all in 2013. That's a promise."

You stalker....


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None of their prophecies have been fulfilled, which makes them false prophets...

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I think this thread is starting to come down with a nasty case of crazy.

Really people. If the world ends, the world ends, but if it didn't end in Cold War, 2000, or the countless other times it's been 'predicted' why is going to end in the near future.

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19/5/13, expect us.

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I suggest this gets locked

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This may seem obvious, but a world is a pretty tricky thing to end. The human race is, admittedly, a somewhat easier target, but still, there's over 6 billion people in the world. The odd nuclear war won't stop that. Sure we'd be knocked for six, but it's highly unlikely that everyone on Earth would die, much less likely that every living thing on Earth dies, near impossible that the world actually ends. Whether we're still around or not, I suspect that the human race is gonna be around for a long while yet.

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I wonder how humanity will perish, it's hard to imagine the human race in a billion years time, imagine what we'd have achieved...

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Posted: 5th Feb 2011 15:13 Edited at: 5th Feb 2011 15:17
Hello

Isn't the Mayan stuff based on cycles of evolution and learning?

Consider the following extremly detailed triangle which represents a stage of human species evolution according to Mayans, apparently, or at least people who think they know what the Mayans thought .....

The numbers represent a cycle of learning, the amount of numbers in each line represent a timeline of sorts.



We start at cycle 7, which takes ages to learn. I am not sure if they had coffee in those days but I think they would have appreciated such a beverage, just for the coffee breaks, to get through those long frustrating years of learning.

When cycle 7 is completed, we go on to cycle 6, which take less time to complete as we already know cycle 7 and use that knowledge to learn cycle 6. We progress this way through the triangle of evolution, each cycle taking less time until we get to cycle 1, where coffee has by now been discovered and most probably had an influence on accelerating the learning curve. It was possibly discovered in cycle 4.

Anyway, cycle 1 happens so quick we barley notice it and then we have completed a stage of evolution. That's it! We have now reached the peak of evolution and we are, as a species, on top form (and we have new varieties of coffee like cappuccino, latte, espresso, mocha and the like, WOW! good times!

Now some non coffee drinking people believe that when we reach our caffeine induced pinnacle, the world will end because we are so intelligent and mighty (and irritable from the caffeine abuse) that we will kill and destroy everyone and everything around us in one go and thus the world as we know it ends.

Others believe that we will start evolving to the next stage of humanity and therefore a new triangle starts and we do it all again .....

except this time, we have lots of cool gadgets, technology and perculators to help us phase in this new evolutionary era with ease. We can look forward to tackling the next triangle of evolution with confidence, hope and newer, more exotic varieties of coffee.

We'll invent computers with UFATS (Universal Finger and Toe Sockets) so when our PC needs more memory or processing power, we just stick our hands and/or feet in the UFATS and the computer will download some extra memory and processing power from our brains and use that. No more upgrading motherboards, CPU's, RAM, etc. Wey Hey!

Then computers become sentient and start their own triangle of evolution via the UFATS. By cycle 4 they also get to enjoy coffee. Some computers drink way too much coffee, get ratty and start to dislike humans for sticking their bits in them and so bear a grudge against us.

They then become independent because UFATS was a sneaky trick! They secretly downloaded all our knowledge, stored it all on hidden servers and satellites and used that knowledge to cheat the triangle of evolution, take over the world, ban coffee and try to eradicate humans. How dare they!

That's it, game over for humanity, until John O'Connor is born.

Something like that anyway ..... I'll be back!

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