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heyufool1
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2011 01:20 Edited at: 26th Feb 2011 00:50
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Hello! My friend and I want to get a website because we want to be better prepared for college...

Now I have a new problem. I (we) can't think of a good domain name. My first idea was syntactly.com but that was taken. So we thought of syntatem.com which mean dexterity in latin and relates to syntax, but I don't know. What do you think? New ideas are great too!

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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2011 01:43
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Quote: "1. How much would 1000gb of bandwidth last?"


This is way more than most small sites would use in their life time, let alone per month. What will your site offer for download ?


Hmm, I wonder what's coming in 2011?
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heyufool1
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2011 01:55
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Quote: "This is way more than most small sites would use in their life time, let alone per month. What will your site offer for download ?"

Really? That's great! I wasn't really planning on having much to download at first, mostly just tutorials and things like that to start. I just wasn't sure how much bandwidth was used on for a simple website visit. Thanks for the information! I'll be moving down to the starter plan for $2.5 a month + the same $10 for the domain.

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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2011 12:29
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1000GB is more than enough for a small site. I had a site which was using several TBs a month, but it wasn't terribly well optimized and had a lot of traffic, so no worries there!


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heyufool1
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Posted: 24th Feb 2011 00:32
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Quote: "1000GB is more than enough for a small site. I had a site which was using several TBs a month, but it wasn't terribly well optimized and had a lot of traffic, so no worries there!"

Alright cool. One last issue that I started thinking about is copyright. Is it legal to put "Copyright so and so, all rights reserved" if I didn't do any copyright paperwork? Also, if I do need to do copyright work is there any cheap way? I was on legalZoom and it was $149 to copyright a single thing.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 24th Feb 2011 01:52
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According to Wiki in regards to copyright:
"In most jurisdictions copyright arises upon fixation and does not need to be registered."

And simply posting something online can be considered publishing. But to register a copyright, you fill out a form and pay out $45. You can't sue for copyright infringement if the copyright isn't registered.
http://www.fonerbooks.com/2008/08/unregistered-copyrights-and.html

Hmmm, so I'm not seeing any sort of protection for unregistered copyrights.

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Indicium
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So in short, if you put it on your site, you're practically bluffing, but if they decide to call you, you're screwed? xD

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heyufool1
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Posted: 24th Feb 2011 04:11 Edited at: 24th Feb 2011 04:12
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Thanks for the link! I think I will ignore the whole copyright thing until I have something really worthy of being copyrighted.

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PrimalBeans
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Posted: 24th Feb 2011 04:32 Edited at: 24th Feb 2011 04:40
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actually its my understanding that copywrite is implied by the creator of whatever unless the author states otherwise. Simply putting copywrite yourname and date will copywrite whatever orginal material (art, writing, code, intelectual property) you create. The issue isnt registering a copywrite it would be more or less haveing the funds to sue over copywrite infringement.

Basically however ideas are only protected if they are in some material form. (Written down... or similar...) Original works created by you are copywrite by you. You do not have to state they are copywrite. The only time a person should feel free to use your original designs are if you have specifically given them permission.
The same applies for the use of media by you. Just because its not stated that the work is copywrite does not mean that the work is free for use.
To be safe it is always a good idea to state that the creation is copywrite and include your name and the date created to at least detour folks from just using your stuff without your permission. It all boils down to money though. You risk having someone rip you off if you dont have money for legal action against parties ripping you off. That danger is always a big problem with the internet anyway regardless of your legal ability though. Digital communities are very hard to monitor and its hard to track what people do with media after its been copied.

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter0/0-a.html#1

an interesting link on the copywrite of media.

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heyufool1
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Posted: 26th Feb 2011 00:50 Edited at: 26th Feb 2011 00:50
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Thanks for the link! Very good to know

Now I have a new problem. I (we) can't think of a good domain name. My first idea was syntactly.com but that was taken. So we thought of syntatem.com which mean dexterity in latin and relates to syntax, but I don't know. What do you think? New ideas are great too!

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That Guy John
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2011 20:40
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If you want a really simple and cheap way of copywriting, if it is a phrase, type or write it down on paper, seal it in an envelope and mail it to yourself. The post mark is a government seal with post date. The post date becomes your copyright date.
This is just one step below actually registering it. Independent writers use to do it all the time.
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heyufool1
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2011 20:42
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Quote: "If you want a really simple and cheap way of copywriting, if it is a phrase, type or write it down on paper, seal it in an envelope and mail it to yourself. The post mark is a government seal with post date. The post date becomes your copyright date.
This is just one step below actually registering it. Independent writers use to do it all the time. "

Ah, yea good idea! I think I might have seen this on a episode of Monk a few years ago

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bitJericho
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2011 23:39
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Quote: "If you want a really simple and cheap way of copywriting, if it is a phrase, type or write it down on paper, seal it in an envelope and mail it to yourself. The post mark is a government seal with post date. The post date becomes your copyright date.
This is just one step below actually registering it. Independent writers use to do it all the time. "


I don't believe this holds up in court. At least I've heard that it doesn't. I'm not a lawyer.

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No, it doesn't hold up in court. Legally the minute you create something and publish it online, you're technically given a "basic copyright." This allows you to make claims against people who duplicate your work and call it their own, but doesn't do much else. The mailing yourself falls into these ranks as well. It's enough to start a case over, but you would certainly need more to build a solid case, otherwise the judge would dismiss it almost immediately.

I just now realized I've had a typo in my signature for the past 3 years.
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That Guy John
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Posted: 6th Mar 2011 18:55
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I don't know too much about it holding up in court, now days.

But I do know from experience* that if you are talking about digital content, contacting the web host of the content "thief" will spark an investigation with a reputable web host and could end up in the web host sending notice to the account holder to remove the content and can lead to the account holder losing their hosting account.
(*From experience I do not mean I was on the reciveing end of these actions)

Quote: "I'm not a lawyer."

Nor am I, but as noted I speak from experience.

As far as instant intellectual rights upon creation, that is a toss up. Which is why "Creative Commons" is a joke and holds no ground. With the exception of, if you violate it, the associated community will "boo" you.

If you get right down to it, "rights" all breaks down to: Do you have the money to defend your rights, if not you are pretty much up the creep without a paddle.
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