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Geek Culture / Windows Azure

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Flatlander
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Posted: 9th Mar 2011 02:14
Anybody try this yet?

I searched in this forum and found nothing regarding this. I seem to have that problem with this forum of bringing something up that has been posted already.
crispex
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Posted: 9th Mar 2011 02:52
The presentation of it shares a lot of the same ideas and "philosophy" as Google's ChromeOS. It looks like it could be rather useful, but I still think cloud has a long way to go.

I just now realized I've had a typo in my signature for the past 3 years.
PAGAN_old
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Posted: 9th Mar 2011 16:41
what is it?

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
bitJericho
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 12:16
What's up with cloud computing. Pass...

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crispex
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 12:30
Quote: "What's up with cloud computing. Pass..."


It allows you to store and save settings that can be accessed by any computer you log onto. A good example of functioning cloud computing is Chrome.

I just now realized I've had a typo in my signature for the past 3 years.
bitJericho
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 17:03
Well, I technically know what's up with it. But why people would want to put their lives out on the line like that is beyond me.

I'll keep all my documents, calendar, code, and all that in-house, thanks

I do pay for a bookmarking site to keep my bookmarks, but I pay for that service. Even scarier is keeping material out there in the cloud and not paying for it. One day you'll end up with Geocities, but instead of crappy websites, it'll be a dozen years of docs (think services like google docs, should google ever get in trouble), many of which you may have shared with the world, all of which could be gone, with or without notice, whether you're dead by then or alive. Whatever you shared with the world on some free cloud service could disappear from human existence.

One of these days I want to get my email done in-house too, but I'd have to be in a position where I can afford a couple servers for redundancy, and I'm not that well off

Now yes, you guys probably keep backups and all that. But how many of you really do?

How sucky is it when you want to go back and download a game or dll but it's unavailable. You have to get lucky and find someone who kept a copy of that program and if you're even luckier it's the latest version.

More often than not though, I've had to go without.

That's because the creator entrusted it in some "cloud" solution.

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thenerd
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 20:28 Edited at: 10th Mar 2011 20:28
Quote: "
More often than not though, I've had to go without.

That's because the creator entrusted it in some "cloud" solution.
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I was under the impression that cloud-based systems would help avoid that problem by storing the file contents over multiple servers rather than one... am I wrong?

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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 21:07
Quote: "I was under the impression that cloud-based systems would help avoid that problem by storing the file contents over multiple servers rather than one... am I wrong?"


What happens when the company folds? Look at geocities. It's the definition of a cloud service. You upload info, it gets stored somewhere on the internet and you don't worry about it.

Geocities is gone now and the data destroyed. Thankfully there's good folks like those at http://www.reocities.com/, among others, who harvested as much as they could and published it.

The real solution to cloud computing problems is to backup, mirror, backup, and do it yourself, or pay someone to do it.

Regarding lost plugins and things, TGC is to blame for not giving us a proper repository for code, and so projects are lost by those who don't entrust their projects in a reputable service. TGC probably won't do it because it would cost, and us customers are too keen to not pay. Of course, I think such a repository by the people who hold the most interest (TGC in this case) should at least try to figure something out.

Anyways, I'm guilty of losing work just like anybody else, but I'm getting better at keeping things safe

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thenerd
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 21:56 Edited at: 10th Mar 2011 21:57
Ah, I understand it, I think. Honestly, I would probably never use cloud services to hold sensitive files that could not be replaced anyway if the servers went offline. I do think there are reliable services out there though, for example Amazon.

I've been using Google Code for a while, and that's very nice to use. SVN and other source-control systems help a lot, they have backups of every version of the code. I've used that feature to automatically maintain a folder with backups of the files from every revision on my project.

Jeku
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Posted: 10th Mar 2011 22:13
For the record Geocities gave everyone TONS of notice before Yahoo pulled the plug on it.


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crispex
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Posted: 11th Mar 2011 01:09
I got an email from Geocities on my old Yahoo account. Geocities was only good in the sense that it allowed starter web developers to make sites for free, something unheard of at first. It died because more people were adopting similar systems.

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