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Work in Progress / Mercenaries in Space demo

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David T
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Posted: 12th Oct 2003 16:28
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After a few weeks on the backburner I@ve done a bit more work on this and I've released an early demo.

So far it just shows the units system (movement, attacking etc), moving around the map, nebulae, asteroid fields, planets etc.

Next thing on my list is building. Then some story elements.

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It looks really good. I don't want to see the game until it is finished, because that might ruin the surprise.

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LOL no replies

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hmm strange a game this intresting deserves more replies.
my internet connections abitshaky at the moment so i wont download it. Verry pretty though

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I downloaded the demo and had a look at it last night. David, I'm awfully impressed. I'll have to use the low detail option when it is implemented though as it only ran at about 7 FPS on my machine. (Regular readers will recall my anguished posts about the mysterious speed problem my high spec PC seems to suffer from).

Best of luck to you with this game and your entry in the competition. Also, as I'm a very fair bear, best of luck to all the other entrants as well.

I shall applaud all equally from the sidelines and may the best bipedal sentient lifeform win!

Philip

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David T
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Posted: 14th Oct 2003 21:49
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Philip, thanks At least it ran!

Yeah it thought it weird there were less replies, but with less replies there's a smaller chance of it not working

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Posted: 14th Oct 2003 23:39 Edited at: 15th Oct 2003 00:04
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It'll eventually download properly (now 5th attempt) ...

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6th ...

........

7th... sigh (I would give up but it looks so good! )

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At last! Yeah, very good indeed, especially all the particle effects, although it does get very slow when about 100 of those effects (the bullets) are on screen at once, about 2fps I think. I'd make it so that they can only have a certain amount fired at a time.

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It's surprising, the bullets are not very high poly (4 ) but I'll definately think about limiting the number.

What did you guys think of the nebulae?

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The nebulae was pretty impressive, did you use the same kind of rotating pointed planes as the bullets to do it?

And it was probably more the texture slowing the frame rate than the number of particles.

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WOW, cool , ran with 2 fps with 90,000 poly's in screen. tip, objects you cant see dont need to be rendered.

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Quote: "The nebulae was pretty impressive, did you use the same kind of rotating pointed planes as the bullets to do it?"


T'was plains indeed

Quote: "tip, objects you cant see dont need to be rendered."


I hoped dbp itself handled the non-rendering of objects off screen, otherwise it'd be a bit pointless to render them! However i might disable the zwrite of off screen objects, in case that has any effect.

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nice demo. I cant wait to see the final game.


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I think, this game is one of the greatest DB creations! I can't wait to see the final version too.
my tip: use very lower textures for the faster gaming, I have 15 FPS with only the empty space on the screen. (the blue flare with 256*256 is too big, the 32*32 enough.... etc...)

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Oh yeah, BTW, I still don't see any alien !

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MIS made for the competition?

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err, I found nothing. Is it suppossed to be just placing of ships?

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Quote: "err, I found nothing. Is it suppossed to be just placing of ships?"


Placing, moving, attacking etc.
You do start with a blank map.

Quote: "Oh yeah, BTW, I still don't see any alien !"


I'm following an idea by robk / ianm (get them mixed up! ) and using the alien as what you have to collect. In each level there may be an arm, leg, head etc. and you have to collect all to make up the full alien

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very nice keep up the great work! I ran it and had very few fps problems... the only time it really took from my fps was whenever i loaded every ship right by eachother and they had a giant lgith show that really hert the fps...

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@David89
Can u tell me how you create the nebula (the blue one)? This is what I want to do, but have no Idea how to. Help needed.
thx
Downloading you rdemo. More later

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It kicks me out every time I try (1, 5 MB, 9,5 MB...)
In the 6th try it works.

Exept of the slow fps it looks nice, but I have some Problems with the Appearance of the objects. It doesnt look as nice as your screenies. (Maybe its the graphic card - on a laptop). I try it later at home...

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Quote: "very nice keep up the great work! I ran it and had very few fps problems... the only time it really took from my fps was whenever i loaded every ship right by eachother and they had a giant lgith show that really hert the fps... "


Understandably!

Quote: "Can u tell me how you create the nebula (the blue one)? This is what I want to do, but have no Idea how to."


All a load of ghosted, rotating plains. Identical to the multicoloured one, but with a different texture.

Quote: "It kicks me out every time I try (1, 5 MB, 9,5 MB...)
In the 6th try it works."


No idea about that I'm afraid!

Quote: "It doesnt look as nice as your screenies. (Maybe its the graphic card - on a laptop). I try it later at home..."


Can you post a screen?

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It was my Laptop card. On my PC (geforce 440 MX) it runs fine.

On my laptop it didnt show some ships etc...

Have a prob with screenies, Have no place to upload...

Cheers

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It says cant find image at line 703 for me. Cant run it.

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In the "images" directory, is there a file called shields1.jpg?

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directory?? dont think there is a directory for images lol

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Well that's your problem try unzipping it again.

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Just had an idea about the computer AI which should make it much smarter playing an easier to create. I'm going to implement a "stack" of all notifications the CPU player received during the loop, eg. Unit Built, Unit Destroyed, Object complete etc. and then it takes decisions based on that.

Plus I think building will be Sims-style, where selecting a shipyard brings up circles around it and click one of them to build.

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