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Geek Culture / Starting a Marketing/Publishing Agency

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Black Mamba
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2011 17:22 Edited at: 24th Apr 2011 15:55
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Hi, i'm quite new to this forum. So my name is "Black Mamba" and I would like to say hi to everyone!

I have a question that anyone can feel free to answer or give some tips. I have always had interest in starting a marketing or a publishing firm. Well, before I signed up to the forums, I would hover over them and I noticed that there are many FPSC users wondering how to 'sell' their game. I believe what is needed is a small marketing place to allow the games to get bigger and be sold.

So now the questions -

1. What are your general thoughts about the idea?
2. Anyone have any tips?
3. If I were to start a site like 8 bit funding would anyone actually help the developers by donating money?

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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2011 20:51 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2011 20:52
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The indie publishing market is now quite saturated due to the introduction of many content delivery systems like Steam etc. - which is by no means a bad thing for us developers!

Most of these are quite strict on what they will and will not accept though, and I am doubtful that any but the best FPSC projects would make it on there - so there is definitely a demand for such a service, whether or not it will be profitable is another thing.

I was actually going to suggest that you'd need to produce a similar client to Steam, but now I think about it it would be better to not produce a client and have everything delivered via web - there are just too many clients of this type available.


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xplosys
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2011 21:42
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Quote: "1. What are your general thoughts about the idea?"

If you build it, they will come. And I don't think that there are "many FPSC users wondering how to 'sell' their game". There are a few and if you are going to rely on them to get you going, I don't think you'll get far. If it's something that you want to do, then build a good system and people will want to use it.

In my years here, I've seen a half dozen people try something along these lines but I don't see them anymore. I would guess that's because it takes a lot of time, experience and money to compete with the ones already out there and established. If you want to start small and low cost with FPSC/DBP games I guess it'd be a good way to get your feet wet and learn the ropes.

Brian.

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Black Mamba
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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 05:43
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Thanks for your support you guys!

@ Xplosys,

Well, I have since changed my mind and decided that it would be a good idea to allow all computer games, and mobile games. With the App Game Kit coming soon from TGC, I figured I could possibly get a few more games from that.

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mr_d
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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 09:05 Edited at: 24th Apr 2011 09:09
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ummm...your domain starts out as http://mambasoftware.com/
but then after navigating to other parts, and then going back to the homepage, it turns into http://splatterspawn.com/

if you were previously part of SplatterSpawn, then why change the name? This would be the third attempt at starting something like this...my opinion would be to have stick with the previous site.
(Although, if you are new to TCG, then you're probably not them).

The new site looks good though (except it's a bit bare at the moment). Anyway, good luck. Cheers.

BTW, there is a little spelling mistake on one of your main homepage scroll pages (extra "E" at the end of SOFTWARE").

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TechLord
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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 14:24 Edited at: 24th Apr 2011 14:26
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Quote: "I have always had interest in starting a marketing or a publishing firm. I believe what is needed is a small marketing place to allow the games to get bigger and be sold. So now the questions -
1. What are your general thoughts about the idea?
2. Anyone have any tips?"
Perhaps CrowdFunding dedicated to FPSC Games like 8bitfunding.

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Black Mamba
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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 15:49
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Quote: "ummm...your domain starts out as http://mambasoftware.com/
but then after navigating to other parts, and then going back to the homepage, it turns into http://splatterspawn.com/

if you were previously part of SplatterSpawn, then why change the name? This would be the third attempt at starting something like this...my opinion would be to have stick with the previous site.
(Although, if you are new to TCG, then you're probably not them).

The new site looks good though (except it's a bit bare at the moment). Anyway, good luck. Cheers.

BTW, there is a little spelling mistake on one of your main homepage scroll pages (extra "E" at the end of SOFTWARE")."


I was never apart of SplatterSpawn. I just know the people that owned SplatterSpawn and am using their hosting. It only says SplatterSpawn because when I was setting up the site, I had not yet purchased the mambasoftware domain. I can get all that fixed pretty quickly.

Ah, thanks for the spelling error, I didn't even see that :p

Quote: "Perhaps CrowdFunding dedicated to FPSC Games like 8bitfunding."


That's not a bad idea, but how many would be interested in putting money into a game is another question. I will add it to the first post.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2011 02:24 Edited at: 25th Apr 2011 06:49
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Quote: "That's not a bad idea, but how many would be interested in putting money into a game is another question. I will add it to the first post."
In my opinion, most Game Developers need funding to hire Professional Programmers and Artists. I think most Developers would rather have someone donate content instead of cash, but, cash is universal and easier to transfer.

The truth of the matter is most projects will never ever ever see the light of day. I'm guilty of this myself. Which is why I considered launching Goal-Tender.net, a CrowdFunding Site that funds projects using Wagers against the Project 'Checkpoint' Completion or Failure. A Checkpoint is a short, easier to obtain goal within a Project.

Goal-Tender.net books Projects. Once a Developer books a Project, they can create Checkpoints. Once a Checkpoint is created, the Developer has to place a Wager towards the Project CheckPoint Completion. This is called the Kick-Start. Once the Checkpoint has been Kick-Start'd, Punters can place wagers against the Project Checkpoint Completion|Failure.

The Developer completes the Checkpoint, they are awarded winnings that can be used toward other checkpoints. If the Devleoper fails to complete their checkpoint, they forfeit their wager. Of course, the details of the full operation of the concept (the winners vs losers) needs to be worked out but Goal-Tender.net introduces some incentives to drive both project funding and completion.

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Black Mamba
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Posted: 25th Apr 2011 03:51
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Quote: "In my opinion, most Game Developers need funding to hire Professional Programmers and Artists. I think most Developers would rather have someone donate content instead of cash, but, cash is universal and easier to transfer.

The truth of the matter is most projects will never ever ever see the light of day. I'm guilty of this myself. Which is why I considered launching Goal-Tender.net, a CrowdFunding that funds projects using Wagers against the Project 'Checkpoint' Completion or Failure. A Checkpoint is a short, easier to obtain goal within a Project.

Goal-Tender.net books Projects. Once a Developer books a Project, they can create Checkpoints. Once a Checkpoint is created, the Developer has to place a Wager towards the Project CheckPoint Completion. This is called the Kick-Start. Once the Checkpoint has been Kick-Start'd, Punters can place wagers against the Project Checkpoint Completion|Failure.

Of course, the details of the full operation of the concept needs to be worked out but Goal-Tender.net introduces some incentives to drive both project funding and completion."


Why not launch it and see how it works out?

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Posted: 25th Apr 2011 06:04 Edited at: 27th Apr 2011 07:30
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Quote: "Why not launch it and see how it works out?"
I'm simply too busy working another strategy for generating profits from games: TournamentBlitz --> DarkTokens --> S3GP --> Games & Applications.

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wind27382
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well I for one would agree I have a wall and lots of binders full of game ideas I have been planning on making for years. I am just now starting to get simple things finished. and that my friend is with lots of efforts.

I have heard of thousands of great ideas in the game design forum. yet i have yet to see one good completed idea. This is a very hard thing we try to do make good and fun games, and the bar just keeps getting higher.

so most thing like this will be extremely hard to do especially where funding is concerned.

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Black Mamba
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Posted: 27th Apr 2011 22:32
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I believe it will be a little tough, but that's why I am trying to start small...with smaller games and smaller developers..

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well if that is the case i could probably use your services. My site want be up till the weekend but i have 1 app release and doing ok and two more simple apps being release in the begging of May. So I honestly could use as much popularity and marketing as possible.


email me at [email protected] and we can talk about prices and such.

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I also tried to add you to MSN, if you have one...

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Black Mamba
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I think i've come to the conclusion that the site will use some sort of crowd funding feature. Once the site is finished I will probably make another thread for it.

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A. Do you have any previous experience in publishing?
B. What kind of services would you provide your clients?
C. How will you raise money to provide these services? Will this include a payment from the developer?

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Black Mamba
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Quote: "A. Do you have any previous experience in publishing?"


A: Currently, I do not have any 'professional' experience in publishing, but I do have taken several advertising and business administration classes throughout college and I believe I am ready to take the next step.

Quote: "B. What kind of services would you provide your clients?"


A: Well for one, every game sold or featured on our site will come with it's own domain name and website built by us. (Unless you already have one) Also, by being on a site that sells the game's themselves, we hope for that to expose the game more. An Android and iPhone app are in the making currently, and I believe that is another area that could really attract customers.

Quote: "C. How will you raise money to provide these services? Will this include a payment from the developer?"


A: For the most part, a percentage of the profit the games are making.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 18:22 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 18:22
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Black Mamba, your website looks very nice, did you do the Web Dev yourself? Are you using a Content Management System (ie: Mambo, Joomla)? I'm looking to revamp the TournamentBlitz CMS with a modern look in the very near future. I'm a web programmer too and code with PHP/XHTML/CCS/Javascript. I'm currently integrating PayPal's Payment Processing APIs & Tools into the TournamentBlitz Event Management System (Back-end). Perhaps we can collaborate in web development. I may be able to assist with the implementation of PayPal IPN in your site to support Crowd Funding Donations.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 22:57 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 23:06
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Quote: "Black Mamba, your website looks very nice, did you do the Web Dev yourself? Are you using a Content Management System (ie: Mambo, Joomla)? I'm looking to revamp the TournamentBlitz CMS with a modern look in the very near future. I'm a web programmer too and code with PHP/XHTML/CCS/Javascript. I'm currently integrating PayPal's Payment Processing APIs & Tools into the TournamentBlitz Event Management System (Back-end). Perhaps we can collaborate in web development. I may be able to assist with the implementation of PayPal IPN in your site to support Crowd Funding Donations."


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