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Sasuke
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 01:53
If you've ever heard someone say the wrong thing in an interview, something that sent a chill up your spine or something that made you attack the keyboard with hate filled fanboyism. If so, please share.

Here's Mine:
Just heard this today, Craig Lafferty – Skyrim’s lead producer said in an interview that the PC copy of Skyrim will be a port of the console copy. I think every PC gamer just died a little. Get ready for the Epic ton of hate mail Bethesda.

The interview in question.
Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 04:26
That's disappointing. All the stuff that makes PC games far superior to consoles won't be seen on Skyrim.

crispex
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 04:58
I honestly think the PC gamer market is dying. People don't want to spend thousands on a new PC when they can simply pay a few hundred for a decent console.

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BMacZero
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 05:26
But on the flip side, everyone already has a PC for doing work and other things. Casual PC gaming isn't going anywhere, and I'd argue that big games are doing fine as well. Though that's not the point of this thread at all.

Le Shorte
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 07:18 Edited at: 10th Jun 2011 07:19
Quote: "I honestly think the PC gamer market is dying"

Lemme see if I can find the article, but PC gaming has grown in the past year or two...

Edit: http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc-gaming-grows-20-per-cent-in-2010-932171

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crispex
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 07:29
Consider it this way: Valve (who said they'd never develop for the PS3 due to it's cell architecture) released Portal 2 on PS3 first.

You were saying?

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Le Shorte
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 07:31
Valve =/= entirety of PC gaming.
I don't see this affecting the 20% growth in PC gaming

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crispex
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 07:35
You're right, but you can't help but notice a lot more companies looking at consoles. Look at Rockstar. GTA IV was CLEARLY a console game, ported to PC. The optimization and visuals were terrible on PC, but amazing and brilliant on PS3.

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Le Shorte
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 07:59
Indeed. I never denied this. But heck, the new CoD has no lead platform. Of course, the PC version probably won't be optimized well, but it's still not a console port.
PC gaming is nowhere near dead.

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Plystire
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 08:09
Companies preferring the consoles over PCs is likely a budget concern. It's easier to design a game for the low-end, because the high-end will obviously be able to handle the direct port.


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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 10:03
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I hope they do a good job of it. Pre-ordering a PC port is like gambling, but you either get your money's worth or throw cash in the toilet >.>


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Plystire
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 11:57
So you're pretty much saying it IS like gambling, except you can rest assured you won't be coming out ahead.


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bitJericho
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 12:39
10 years ago they were doing articles about why the pc market will never die. "PC Gaming will die" has been going on since the inception of PC gaming.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 12:51
Quote: "Companies preferring the consoles over PCs is likely a budget concern. It's easier to design a game for the low-end, because the high-end will obviously be able to handle the direct port."


Possibly, but it's heavily financially motivated as well. The PC version of Skyrim will be lucky to make 10% of the total income for that game. When you have 90% of your income coming from console versions, you concentrate on console versions. This didn't do Oblivion, Fallout3, or Fallout3NV any harm - they were all designed for consoles - I mean look at the UI's, clearly aimed at controllers rather than mouse n keyboard. Thing is though, the PC version will get better updates, user mods... and the PC market will lap Skyrim up - so the PC version, despite Bethesda, will end up a better game than the console versions.

I'm buying it for 360 I think - So I can play it on my new TV, on the couch, in comfort.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 14:23 Edited at: 10th Jun 2011 14:25
@Le Shorte: "A 20% increase" is just misuse of statistics, really. Apple did the same thing not too long ago.

"We have increased by X percent, the PC has only increased by Y percent."

It's not a valid comparison.

Why?

Let me use Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (the first one) as an example. A few months into its life cycle, it had sold roughly 14 million copies. If you added numbers from other sources, PS3 + 360 (not sure in which order) had sold 13,5 million copies, leaving reasonable deduction a measly 500K for the PC platform.

In this context, with only the one game as an example, if PC sales would go up by 20% it would still just be around 100K additional copies, which is less than a 1% increase for the console market (which would be some 135K copies).

Because of this, "20% increase! OMG!" is just playing the tunes of the journalist who wrote the article when he should have been learning math.

In most ways, the console discussion is kind of moot, as well. People still play games on all platforms. It's just that the consoles are a lot more profitable, because the piracy is minimal. I.e., people pay to play.

Either way, the more people that play games, the better!
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 16:02
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Quote: ""A 20% increase" is just misuse of statistics, really"


I totally agree, but the financial market is full of investors that lap these stats up. Big companies look for a % growth to keep the shareholders happy, and make hugely irrational decisions to achieve this. For example, the market wants 80% margin so the company ends up throwing away $20M of revenue because the margin is 78% and not 82%. That's over $15M profit gone all because the stats are wrong. That $15M could have been spent on gaining bigger margins elsewhere but the business is too compartmentalised (to contain the stats) to do this.

There are lies, damned lies and statistics.

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Sasuke
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 18:34
Getting back on topic though, the Bethesda argument. The main issue is why would you say that in an interview. Just imagine the amount of fanboy hate that has generated. Just wait a few weeks and another interview or press statement will pop up saying we're paying equal treatment to the PC version and it's not just a straight port.

It would of been better to not say it and let the game come out. People wouldn't complain cause they'll just think 'give it two weeks and there will be a mod that corrects the issue'.
Le Shorte
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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 19:16
@entomophobiac
Though, we weren't comparing with a single game, nor against consoles. It was simply compared to previous years-- in the PC market.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 20:07
You could almost say the PC Gaming market got 20% cooler with those numbers...

But it's unlikely. In terms of palyers at least, everyone I know has an XBox/PS3, few including me have a PC they actively game on.

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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 23:01
You see, practically all my friends play on consoles, why? Here goes:

They don't use the computer often.

They have friends that play on console that have friends that play on console that make them play on the console.

They argue about graphics being better, when actually it's not.

I turned to PC gaming recently, why?

All-In-One.

Internet, Games and other things just at my fingertips. I swithched because I think PC gaming has much more to it and is more user-friendly than console.



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Posted: 10th Jun 2011 23:55
But an increase is still an increase. If work told me I was only going to make $100 today instead of $1000, my butt would still go in cause that $100 more than I had yesterday.

Other things to consider, releasing the newest games on PC is what pushed the graphics market to where it's at now. Do developers care? Maybe not, but I don't see the PC market completely disappearing ever.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 00:02
Quote: "If work told me I was only going to make $100 today instead of $1000, my butt would still go in cause that $100 more than I had yesterday."


I'm pretty sure you'd be mad as well, due to a 90% pay cut.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 00:45
Mad yes, but I'd still go

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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 00:55
90% pay cut?? And you'd still go?! Man, if I went to work knowing I'd only be making 10% of what they normally pay me, you can bet I'd be in the coffee room 90% of the time.


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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 01:04
That'd be about £4 a day for me...Ummm, I'd say now.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 01:36
I think PC gaming is declining simply because of the following: PC gamers are forced to go by console standards. I have yet to see one PS3 game with a server browser, as this whole era of automatic host finding seems to have taken over. Not sure why.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 14:43
Quote: "They argue about graphics being better, when actually it's not."


I had a friend try to claim that. I showed him L4D with full graphics, AAx16q in high def running at 60+ fps. He quickly changed his mind.

Quote: "90% pay cut?? And you'd still go?! Man, if I went to work knowing I'd only be making 10% of what they normally pay me, you can bet I'd be in the coffee room 90% of the time"


It's not so much a 90 percent pay cut as it is a 10 percent bonus when developers release on PC as well as consoles. I don't think anybody would argue that we should make pc-only games. (That is what we're stuck with with DBP though )

Quote: "as this whole era of automatic host finding seems to have taken over"


And this sucks so bad

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Posted: 11th Jun 2011 15:13
Quote: "And this sucks so bad"

it makes me cry a bit, but at least it will be playable on multiplayer even when whatever company would have decided to shut down its servers.

Graphics are definitely getting better - I don't know how anyone could argue against that! It's been a steady, exponential trend! (like everything else to do with computers)


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