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Non Sequitur M
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So, anyone else excited about the MW3 release? I am! Although, I hope the trouble at Infinity Ward won't hurt it too much. I think it's going to be awesome, since it's a lone duo situation with Soap and Price! Although, I have a small checklist of things I am hoping for:

A few great sniper maps.
A few new sniper rifles for said maps.
Some new mechanics for cover systems(Doubt it though).
Maybe be able to play as the Russians as well(Seriously doubt that)?

Anyone else got anything they would like to see in MW3?

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Posted: 17th Jun 2011 20:04
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Quote: "since it's a lone duo situation with Soap and Price!"


Two men, alone, each eager to unload their weapons together...

Sorry, but ever since Army of Two I've been wary of bromance games.

What is all the fuss about anyway?
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Posted: 17th Jun 2011 20:18
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I hope they add more guns for me and my bros.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2011 20:18 Edited at: 17th Jun 2011 20:23
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@Grunt: Well, I see where you are going with that statement, and totally agree. Buuuuut... I wouldn't really consider it bromance. Price is Soap's superior officer, and also his mentor, like his military father. I don't know. Too each his own right?

@DJ: Well, you want to expand on that idea? Have any guns in mind? Like, I'm hoping for the Dragunov to return! Beautiful rifle! Lovely scope!

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Quote: "@DJ: Well, you want to expand on that idea? Have any guns in mind? Like, I'm hoping for the Dragunov to return! Beautiful rifle! Lovely scope!"


Explanation:

*sarcasm*

I don't know, just when I'm playin' football with me and my bros, were always like "This game needs more guns BRO," "YEAH BRO". And then we shoot some people in the game...and were like "DID YA SEE THAT BRO?!"

*sarcasm*

On-Topic:

I want this game to be different then all-the-other modern warfare games in the infinity ward series. There all bad clones of each other with terrible graphics and horrible story. I want a new fun game that doesn't consist of clans running around in circles shooting each other the same way over and over again online, and a single player story that is boring.

Side-note:

The battlefield series is (and always has been) so much better then CoD, so ill probably be getting the third one. (Destruction 3.0!)

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Yea I think I'll be getting Battlefield 3 since it's always been looking better than cod,at least no annoying kids!


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I like Cod and BF, theyre different games with different focuses: BF is more focused on veichles and focus on the general war idea with big maps, whilst CoD is more infantry/small map more close quarter squad based, ofc Cod is more stylised story like aswell.

I personally dont compare them since the gameplay in both games are so vastly different and the only thing in common they have is guns and an FPS angle.

Might aswell compare CoD with duke nukem?

anyway, I am waiting until i know more, as of now i have CoD mw2 and happy with it, because if CoD mw3 is CoD mw2 with more guns then no from me, also iam more interested in the MP than SP...

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I miss the times when COD wasn't ridiculously over dramatised with no pacing (explosions around every corner). Cod 4 will allways be my favourite, no matter what those over rich apes at Infinity Award do.

I'm more interested in BF3.


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Actually, there's somethings that every game can be compared.Like graphics.COD has been reusing the same engine since cod 4 just because it was a hit.Wonder why people waste there money on the same game over again?


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Quote: "COD has been reusing the same engine since cod 4 just because it was a hit.Wonder why people waste there money on the same game over again?
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the engine is irrelevant to the content of the game.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2011 21:55 Edited at: 17th Jun 2011 21:55
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Actually it determines the capabilities of the game....


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If you watched the videos pre-release of black ops (Which I didn't buy) they mentioned adding technology to the engine to be able to cope with the helicopter level. It's a big company and they're not using the same engine, they're evolving it

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Quote: "Actually it determines the capabilities of the game....
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yes, there is a big line between content, and what kind of effects the game is capable of pulling off.

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You cant polish a turd, is what Quiks trying to say.

Also a typical example of engine evolution is Source.

The main difference is COD and BF games are player interaction. Cod has stupified it enough for one man to run around by himself and win. "lone wolves" as they seem to call it, * which quite frankly is a loathsome name. "loners" would be better but ill stay on que. BF games promote actual soldier roleplay as it were. There are classes to attack, defend and support your teams effort. Your more likely to act together or at least be aware of the guys around you. While in Cod theres no need since it pretty much plays out as;

Spawn
Spray clip
Die
~Repeat forever

Which is amusing for a few hours till you realise, wait i just had the strangest dejavu and no it wasnt from the prepubestic children screaming the same insults down the mic' for the fifth time in a row or that strange malarky where randomly spinning in a circle really quickly and shooting has a element of "skill" involed. Its the fact that ive just remembered i was on this map about 40mins ago and i blew someones brains out in the same killing area, as he was spinning retardedly while spewing insults like a self fulfilled hate machine. Other than my virgin ears being scorned, it dawned on me i had seen all this game had to offer so i found myself screaming back at them like a possesed grammer nazi, at which point i realised oh dear god im becoming one of them and quickly preceeded to eject the disc and kill it with fire.


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For example, in CoD, every works for their own gain, and there's no interaction outside of clans.

In TF2, you must work together. Solders can use tools to give damage and health buffs, scouts can stun enemies for other team members to pick off, medics heal other team members, and engineers build teleporters and dispensers to help their teammates get outfitted and move up quicker.

CoD is totally geared towards working for yourself.

What is all the fuss about anyway?
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But anyways, I got a feeling COD boys are slowly realizing what there playing is the same game... Anyways they should make there games an expansion pack if it's the same game.


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Why is everyone talking about CoD solely based on it's MP? In my opinion MP is a bit added on to a game after SP. SP should always be the main element of a game. I thought the story arc in CoD4 and 6 was brilliant and i'll be buying this one to finish that.

I don't care about the MP, sure it adds extra value to the game but if it's exactly the same as the MP in the last game who cares? It's like getting a free map pack for the last one with the purchase of the actual SP game. No-one would complain about that.

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Posted: 18th Jun 2011 01:27 Edited at: 18th Jun 2011 01:27
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Quote: "they should make there games an expansion pack if it's the same game."


they should make there games expansion packs because they are all just the the same game.

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The replay value of COD's campaign is far less than that of portal.

For three years I've watched my friend fantasize about the next COD game, but then, when they get the game, they say that it was so-so and immediately start fantasizing about the next game.

I eventually bought a few and found out for my self that they all play the same and are quite boring.


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and portal is related to a first person shooter set in the modern day war stuff how...?

thats like saying: the replay value of mass effect was way better than cod!

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Portal challenges you to think, CoD doesn't.

The whole idea of CoD is that you shunt your aiming and movement into your subconcious in order to react faster, then it becomes instinct.

Portal requires you to sit back and scope it out, develop a plan, then use precision to pull it off.

Apples 'n' oranges bro.

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sooo what you are saying that whever i play a shooter game

i should sit down and compare it to a pussle game?

ooh geez thats not very clever is it?

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I was saying that COD has practically no replay value in the campaign.


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while comparing it to a game of a different genre

you see all different genres have different replay value due to the limitation that comes to the genre.

if you are going to compare the game to some other game take a game from the same genre like half life 2 (which has... very little aswell)

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Hey! Hey! Hey! Waaaaaait! I started this thread to split the CoD discussion away from the Halo(And, other games) discussion for a reason! If you don't like CoD, leave the topic! This is a CoD anticipation thread. I don't feel like I'm buying the same game every time, I've loved the campaigns every time, and I've loved the multiplayer every time. And, this thread is for anyone who has remotely similar views about this game.

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Quote: "Why is everyone talking about CoD solely based on it's MP? In my opinion MP is a bit added on to a game after SP."

Because that is where the majority of the gameplay is. SP takes maybe 4-5 hours to complete, probably less. Not worth the 89 bucks!

In my opinion, Battlefield looks vastly superior.

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I can't wait for Modern Warfare 3, it has a grenade launcher now, not to mention hybrid sights.


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I remember playing the first CoDs over and over again. I also must have played the Cod4 and CoD6 campaigns a few times as well.

I guess CoD is like marmite.

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just wondering what CoD 6 is x)

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That would be Modern Warfare 2, don't forget Call of duty 1-3

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Never really played 1, couldn't get into 2, 3 was okay. It was MW1 when I was finally like, "Holy crap! This is amazing." I've been hooked ever since!

Also, @Deathead: Wait! What is a hybrid sight? *drool* I wanna know, now!

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Quote: "That would be Modern Warfare 2, don't forget Call of duty 1-3
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call of duty 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (world at war) and then there is call of duty MW 2 and now 3
which does into extensions of that 4 so i wouldnt call them 6 or 7

matter of opinion on how u see things though i guess ^^

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Too many CODs

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Quote: " @Deathead: Wait! What is a hybrid sight? *drool* I wanna know, now!"

It's so you can mix a ACOG Scope with a Red-dot sight I guess, nothing amazingly impressive.

Quote: "call of duty 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (world at war) and then there is call of duty MW 2 and now 3"

Well if you include console and handheld games that isn't a port you'll get about 11 Call of Duty titles. That is including Finest Hour, Big Red One and WaW: Final Fronts. You also forgot Black Ops in your list.


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Quote: "It's so you can mix a ACOG Scope with a Red-dot sight I guess"


It's not really an ACOG, it's a scope designed specifically to work with a red dot so you end up with basically a holographic scope. It's not impressive, but it is conceivably realistic

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They need to make a WWI Call of Duty. That would be epic. *not serious* And, a Call of Duty: Civil War. *serious again*

@Deathead: That... Really... Doesn't sound that amazing. Especially for the iron sighters like myself!

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Quote: "You also forgot Black Ops in your list."


doesnt count! just kidding, forgot about it xD

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Quote: "It's not really an ACOG, it's a scope designed specifically to work with a red dot so you end up with basically a holographic scope. It's not impressive, but it is conceivably realistic
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Yeah, but saying that it kinda gets outweighed in realism by the OTT action scenes.lol But the reason why I mention it is because it was one of the major "features" being told by some of the developers.lol That and the arrival of a grenade launcher and the return of Predator missiles...

The game seems overwhelmingly unimpressive; in terms of features, don't know about the story yet, but seeing as MW2 was slightly messed up and didn't have that much of a shock factor that MW1 had I can see this just being a game where people will only praise the multi-player and the single-player will be just another quick story with no real impact, basically just something to advertise on TV. I certainly do miss the old Call of Duty, sure it had cinematic moments but it certainly isn't like the Michael Bay fest you get in the new games; I'm looking at you Black Ops.


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Quote: "Too many CODs"

Tell me about it....

Hey, since this is an American game and it is supposed to be modern warfare, do you think that they will have the AA12?
They should.


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Who knows? The crossbow from Black Ops was waaaaaay the hell from nowhere!!! Who on God's green Earth brings a crossbow to a gunfight? ... ... ...MEEEEEE!!!

Seriously, though? Not sure. I wishing for the AA12 for MW2.

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Quote: "I wishing for the AA12 for MW2."


Ummm...have you actually played MW2? Cos it's in there, I should know...

What is all the fuss about anyway?
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Quote: "CoD is more infantry/small map more close quarter squad based"


Wait are you serious? Cod is all about running by your self with a long range weapon that's rediculously overpowerd at short range...

BF3 will be sooo much better.

I have to admit, i realy liked the black ops campaign though.

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Quote: "Wait are you serious? Cod is all about running by your self with a long range weapon that's rediculously overpowerd at short range...

BF3 will be sooo much better.

I have to admit, i realy liked the black ops campaign though.
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yes i was serious, small infatry maps, without veichles and maybe not squad based but as close as it gets to squad based witht hat game setup.

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Look,the point is modern warfare 3 will be the same game,it should just be a campaign dlc if it's that same!On the other hand at least only adults will play BF3.At least you talk to your team alot!If you're an adult and have a job you wouldn't be spending your money on the same crap is my point.


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Quote: "Look,the point is modern warfare 3 will be the same game,it should just be a campaign dlc if it\'s that same!On the other hand at least only adults will play BF3.At least you talk to your team alot!If you\'re an adult and have a job you wouldn\'t be spending your money on the same crap is my point."


first of: your BF3 fanboyism can go to an own thread, no really.

secondly: explain to me: HOW is it going to be the same game? comeon throw the proof at me HOW is it going to be the same game aside from "using the same engine"? and to throw some shoes onto your fanboyism: where is BF3 gonna be any different than the rest? except for the destruction: why not just make a patch or DLC that brings us a new campaign and a few MP maps with the destruction engine!

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Yea I'm done with this.Oh yeah and the DLC would be a huge DLC,I don't want kids to play BF3,so I should start making them think MW3 is better so they won't annoy me with their JB voices.Just tell the MW3 fanboys to stop complaining on our videos we'll stop ours.


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I really really didnt see how you answered any of my post other than sounding really rude.....

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@CoffeeGrunt: My bad, it was...

@quik: He can't answer it, because BF is for testosterone junkies who just want to 'eff some s**t up, bra-han! Righteous!" Really, it's just eye candy in motion.

@trubkiller: I prefer games that focus on gameplay a little more than that. And, before you start the, "But, it's just noob toobers." Play Hardcore mode where just a couple of rounds can drop you. It's not spray-whole-clip-rinse-repeat-cycle. It's got tactics to it.

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Quote: "@quik: He can't answer it, because BF is for testosterone junkies who just want to 'eff some s**t up, bra-han! Righteous!" Really, it's just eye candy in motion."


aaand now youre sounding as mature as he is

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It's okay, he's on my new blacklist for being a troller. Just move on and ignore him.

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