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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 17th Jul 2011 00:17 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2011 01:29
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Welcome one and all to a tale of pirates, treasure and adventures on the high seas... it's The Pirate Bay but on TGC. No. Not really.



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darkBIT is a torrent tracker exclusively for TGC, aiming to archive and preserve the files hosted here and provide an alternative protocol for download. We are effectively an open tacker which means that anyone on TGC is able to upload their own torrents and download the torrents of others. As we intend darkBIT to be a microsite, this thread will be the hub for all activity and updates etc.
http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit



What is a torrent?
A torrent is simply a small (<1MB) file which details which computers have the file you are looking for. It is most commonly ascociated with piracy and has received a lot of bad press of late - but there are many advantages. Getting started is very simple. You download the desired torrent from darkBIT and then open it up in a torrent client of your choice (we recommend uTorrent for beginners). Your client will then start downloading the files from the many computers which already have the file, meaning you theoretically get much faster download speeds as it is downloading from multiple sources at once.
The key to torrents is SEEDING. When your download has finished you should leave a copy of the file in your downloads folder so that others may get the same fast download speeds as you in the future.

Why use darkBIT?
Most torrent users will know the advantages that the BitTorrent protocol offers. But for those new to the concept:
=Decentralized topology ensures that the files are always available 24/7
=Multiple peers around the world mean you are more likely to get much faster download speeds than from a single server
=Helps TGC by reducing the load on their file servers
=No dead links as multiple people have the file. If one person deletes there will be several others who still have it.

What content do you accept?
As a general rule of thumb: If you wouldn't upload it on the TGC forums, don't upload it to darkBIT. darkBIT aims to be a 'second home' to files on TGC, so everything like:
=Programs
=Plugins
=Sources
=Media
are fine for upload. This encompasses anything made with or using a TGC product and includes (but is not limited to): DBPro, DBC, Dark GDK, FPSC, AGK. It goes wihtout saying that paid work and other malicious content is not permitted - and in uploading this you will find yourself with a hefty lifetime ban.

Do I have to sign up?
Nope, but you must be signed in to use the site. If you don't wish to sign up for your own account then you can sign in with the guest account simply by pressing the 'Log In' button and leaving the username and password as they are. The Guest account has certain restrictions, namely [B]THE GUEST ACCOUNT CANNOT UPLOAD TORRENTS[/b]. If you wish to upload your own torrents you should sign up for your own account.


A GUIDE TO UPLOADING TORRENTS
Pre-requisites:
=Account at darkBIT
=Torrent client (uTorrent 3.0.0 is used in this guide)
=Files to be uploaded


1. Open up your torrent client (in this case uTorrent) and create a new torrent by going File > Create New Torrent.
2. If you are just uploading a single file click Add file and select the file you wish to upload. If you want to upload an entire directory then click Add directory and select the directory you wish to upload.
3. The trackers box tells uTorrent the location of the 'tracker' which instructs uTorrent as to which computers have which bits of the file we want. Copy and paste the announce URL http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit/announce.php into this box.
4. Leave the other settings as pictured, ensure that Start seeding > Off.
5. To create the .torrent file we need to upload select Create and save as... and choose where you want the file to be saved.


1. Navigate to http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit/upload.php.
2. Click Choose file and select the .torrent file you just created.
3. Fill in the remaining details being as descriptive as possible. It is not necessary upload an NFO, this is merely for nostalgia - though those of you who can't resist a bit of ASCII art are more than welcome!
5. Hit Do it! to upload your torrent.


1. If your upload has been successful you should be taken to the details page for your newly uploaded torrent. Click on the hyperlink underneath the torrent title to download your uploaded torrent. This is what is known as 'initial seeding'. Don't worry, you won't have to re-download all of your files again, just the .torrent file.


1. Find and open the torrent you just downloaded. Make sure it is the one beginning with [dB] that you just downloaded and not the one you created with uTorrent earlier.


1. If you have done everything right then your torrent should appear with the status Seeding.
2. You may delete the original .torrent file you created with uTorrent. But don't delete the new [dB].torrent file you downloaded. You mustn't move or delete the files you created the torrent for either. If you delete them then you will need to download your torrent from darkBIT and this will re-download your missing files.
3. Leave your torrent seeding to ensure that other members have access to this file.

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NICE! so this is like a torrent site exclusivley for gamecreators.com content?

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Yep. I should mention that there isn't a lot on there at the moment - we are really hoping for some community involvement here. I have uploaded as many DLLs/plugins as I could, but other than that it is pretty bare and awaiting some new content.

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well i am sure you will have a lot more sucess than me with my social network project you already have a user base around the subject of dark basic i barley have any user base and noone knows about the site cept for like 15 people. (btw you should post a darkBIT link on the facebook TGC group)

i like how you took torrents- a concept thats negativley looked upon for its notorious reputation of association with piracy, and turned it into something perfectly legal. as long as you dont have anyone uploading cracked dark basic package and cracked plugins that you have to pay money for. Well i dont think you have to worry about it because, cracked dark basic stuff dosent really exit because its a relativley small consumer fraction and not very popular with the mainstream and serios developers that noone even cracks dark basic stuff at all. there is one version out there but its like db5.1 and pretty obsolete by now doubt anyone would even want to download it

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Wow that's great. I think we should be allowed more content though. For example, you didn't include darkgdk programs. We should also be allowed c++ programs that use TGC plugins such as darknet.

Great work though, I can't wait until I need to use this. ;D

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Sorry that was a mistake on my part, I forgot to write Dark GDK. I shall amend...

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You can upload media,I'm in(as a contributor that is)

Now seriously,I really like the idea,it seems like a nice , organized way of sharing files.

It might be good if you edit the template and stretch the table to fill the wrapper completely,because the room for the titles is small as it is.

How can I become an uploader?

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Nice work! I'm assisting in some seeding. But what would be nice is if you had a single download collection of every torrent, so I could add them easier

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Quote: "It might be good if you edit the template and stretch the table to fill the wrapper completely,because the room for the titles is small as it is."

I'll be experimenting with the layout a bit more soon hopefully, I've been working on getting it stable up until now.

Quote: "How can I become an uploader?"

Sign up for an account and you're free to upload. Make sure you follow the guide I posted as it is very particular about how you do things.

Thanks for the interest.

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Quote: "Nice work! I'm assisting in some seeding. But what would be nice is if you had a single download collection of every torrent, so I could add them easier "

http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit/getrss.php
If you visit that link you can select the categories you want and it generates an RSS link for you. Go into uTorrent and add an RSS feed using the link it givess you

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Quote: "Sign up for an account and you're free to upload"

That's kind-of the issue.I did sign-up but when I try to Upload it says I have no permissions.

Quote: "You are not authorized to upload torrents. (See Uploading in the FAQ.)"


For some reason the Guest account can upload torrents,but the one I registered with can not.A mix-up in privileges?

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Quote: "For some reason the Guest account can upload torrents,but the one I registered with can not.A mix-up in privileges?"

Sorry, there I forgot to reset a change I made in the db. Should be fine now

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Yes,it is,thank you.

One more thing,the takeprofedit.php page can not be accessed.Seems like theres protection for it in .htaccess and that prevents user profile changes.

Anyway,off to uploading models & apps.

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Quote: "One more thing,the takeprofedit.php page can not be accessed.Seems like theres protection for it in .htaccess and that prevents user profile changes."

That's the stupid server security. I'm guessing you tried to link your avatar? It throws up a fuss when it tries to grab something from an external URL. If you want to upload your avatar then use the bitbucket. This is just when it has to copy the data across, embedding pictures etc. in your torrent details for example is fine. There's also a limit on the number of links you can have in your description for anti-spam reasons.

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I'm having trouble logging in. I signed up and I think it said there would be a confirmation email, but I haven't received one yet. Then my boredom kicked in and I reset my password and after receiving those 2 emails, I tried to log in with the new account details but that also failed. I'm just being impatient

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Quote: "I'm having trouble logging in. I signed up and I think it said there would be a confirmation email, but I haven't received one yet. Then my boredom kicked in and I reset my password and after receiving those 2 emails, I tried to log in with the new account details but that also failed. I'm just being impatient"

It's possible it may have been caught in a spam filter. I have enabled your account manually so you should be able to log in now with one of your passwords xD If not then tell me and I shall set up your account manually.

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Quote: "It's possible it may have been caught in a spam filter. I have enabled your account manually so you should be able to log in now with one of your passwords xD If not then tell me and I shall set up your account manually."

Thanks, I'm logged in and all is good

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Quote: "Thanks, I'm logged in and all is good"

Good stuff, I think it's a programmer cliché that no matter how much you test something - there's always something that break when it goes live.

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Alright,uploaded something.I followed the steps and got to the seeding part.

It says,3 seeders on the torrent,but in active it still stays at no(dead).

Does it take more time to update that field,or am I doing something wrong?

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What colour is the bar that says 'Seeding'? If it's red then that means that there's an error somewhere. If you could right click on the column headings in uTorrent and select 'Tracker status' then I can try and figure out what's going on.

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Posted: 17th Jul 2011 01:52 Edited at: 17th Jul 2011 01:53
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It's green.Try to download the torrent with your client and see if it connects.

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Posted: 17th Jul 2011 01:54 Edited at: 17th Jul 2011 01:54
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Does the tracker status say 'working'? And you opened up the .torrent file beginning with [dB]?

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It says Seeding,and yes I opened the .torrent from the tracker.

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Sorry, my fault for being vague. There's a separate column titled 'tracker status', as opposed to just 'Status'. (Right click on column headings > Tracker status)

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Sorry,don't quite understand this torrent stuff.

On the tracker status bar it says "offile (timed out)"

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Posted: 17th Jul 2011 02:09 Edited at: 17th Jul 2011 02:09
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Hmm, that is quite confusing. Could you try downloading a torrent for me? Doesn't matter which one. I'm thinking it's a connectivity issue as it would appear that uTorrent connect to the tracker for some reason. Are you behind a firewall?

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There's an exception for utorrent,so the firewall shouldn't be a problem.

I did manage to download a torrent with no problem.

edit - after disabling the firewall completely,the tracker status is http error 403,which is a permission error I guess.

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Quote: "There's an exception for utorrent,so the firewall shouldn't be a problem."

I'm guessing that was for Windows Firewall? If you're behind a router or something then it's quite possible that that is what's causing the issues as you'd need to port forward it.

I've just found this article here: http://dctorrent.com/f6/tracker-status-offline-timed-out-read-81035/
Try doing some of the things it suggest there.

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Yes,I am behind a router,and it looks like that's the issue.I'll try to connect directly and see how that works out.

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Fingers crossed then. We currently have 2x 24/7 seedboxes so if your upload succeeds then it'll be picked up automatically and get a few extra seeders (people who are able to share the file).

You don't need to re-upload your torrent by the way, the problem lies somewhere between your computer and our server - so once the problem is sorted then uTorren should start seeding your torrent fine. The update interval on our server varies between 30 secs - 1 min so you might have to wait a while before it kicks off seeding.

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Could someone download the SoulHunter torrent? I just want to confirm that it's seeding alright.

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Nice, but shouldn't games be a different category than programs? The latter suggests tools for gamemaking or other apps rather than "finished projects made with TGC software"...

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@Wilderbeast, Could you check your email? I've sent you a question.

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Also, if you guys feel a file should be uploaded as it's legal and somewhat tgc related, don't be afraid to upload it. We can always make new categories or find a better spot for it!

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Gencheff, I see you got your connection problems sorted (I am now seeding your torrent). What was the problem in the end?

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I changed uTorrent's settings , restarted the PC , connected it through PPOE and it works.

Thank you for the assistance,that article helped me a lot.

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No worries, glad I was of some help. Now get uploading!

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On it.

Just a thought by the way,the description box might be better off at a larger size and without the purple-ish color.

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Quote: "Just a thought by the way,the description box might be better off at a larger size and without the purple-ish color."

Yeah, I was thinking that too actually. I'll edit that now.

[EDIT] It automatically sizes itself to match the content - looks much better.

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Might help out TGC if you made torrents for the patches.

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That's a very good idea - I shall set about it now.

[EDIT] darkBIT has been updated to include patches /updates as well. Those of you who have an RSS feed set up will need to update it to include the patches category (http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit/getrss.php)

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New update - Upon uploading a new torrent it automatically generates the embed code for you to add the download link to your TGC thread.

Example:




[url=http://devstorm.co.uk/darkbit]
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I cant see why someone cant just run a repository HTTP is much more faster than torrent unless there is over a thousand seeders...

I dont mind being such a said host as I have unlimited bandwidth as well as unlimited storage space... on a 50,000MBIT server world class centre...

anyway I have become a seeder with the only issue being one file not downloading AF102_DBP.zip it wont find any seeders all the rest downloaded fine, I dont mind supporting this project for the time being, but feel using such a backward technology as bittorrent is not the way to go... Relic ruined a perfectly good game for this very reason... hence why I ended up dishing out cash on Steam... not that I dont admire the creator of bittorrent he did create quite a legacy.

if it helps I dont mind giving you an ftp folder and account to create a wonderful http storage solution.

in short, One click download is very popular by most users seasoned and new alike.

MrValentine

EDIT

Actually having gone over it again... you called it DarkBIT as in BitTorrent, and then you incorporate their logo into your banner, and then go and recommend uTorrent which has nothing to do with BitTorrent... which quite frankly is far much more easier to use than uTorrent, as far as I know beginners never use uTorrent... eitherway, you would have been better off calling it DarkTOR if your not going o promote the original application.... not a gripe just stating fact...

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You'll need to get official TGC permission if you want to host any of The Game Creators official downloads. I'm not sure how Rick or Lee will feel about this. Ricks back on the 2nd if you want to e-mail in and ask him then.
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Yeah I was also gonna add what Daniel beat me to

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Quote: "I cant see why someone cant just run a repository HTTP is much more faster than torrent unless there is over a thousand seeders."


Um, no. If a torrent has one seeder, that one person could have the same/better upload speed than a http server does. There's also the benefit of it being decentralized.

I don't understand how torrents are a backwards technology, sure, the way they're often used is frowned upon, but the concept is amazing.

Quote: " you called it DarkBIT as in BitTorrent"


bittorrent is the 'actual' name of a torrent. Please, do your homework in future.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2011 16:42 Edited at: 31st Jul 2011 16:44
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still didnt answe the fact that your using their logo...

and 10-100kn vs 1MB+ your forgetting not everybody has fibre optic broadband with crazy upload speeds

eitherway my point already proven, people prefer single click download as oppose to needing to figure out what a torrent (torrent) program is.

and for the record I did do my home work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent did you? (see also 3rd entry)

try not to be rude when someone is just being nice and stating the obvious

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OOO rat balls Indicium, how could you be so mean to me lol
I wish this forum could be more blind user friendly lol I am always zoomed in so... my bad buddy

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It wasn't my intention to be mean, but the majority of things you're saying are massively inaccurate.

Quote: "and for the record I did do my home work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent did you? (see also 3rd entry)"


BitTorrent is a peer-to-peer networking protocol, also a client for BitTorrent transfers. Obviously, the darkBIT refers to the protocol.

Quote: "your forgetting not everybody has fibre optic broadband with crazy upload speeds"


You're forgetting that this is aimed at a small group of people, us people at TGC mainly. If you noticed a while back we had a thread comparing download and upload speeds, and a lot of people here do have crazy connections, so it's all good here.

Quote: "eitherway my point already proven, people prefer single click download as oppose to needing to figure out what a torrent (torrent) program is."


Like I said, we're a specific 'target audience' here, we're mostly programmers and artists. We can find our way around a bittorrent client.

I don't mean to be rude, but you're making points against this, I think it's only fair that the supporters should be able to retaliate.

Indi.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2011 18:33 Edited at: 31st Jul 2011 18:34
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I love you indicium always great to have a debate with you.

yeah figured I might as well flame it to shreds and see where it takes off from.
Nevertheless to add to my shame I am darn hungry and trying to keep up on the forums past 1 month of activities is actually taking my entire day... done nothing but sit here even fell asleep and woke up got right back on the forums hehe, after today I should be fine and back on as usual on the regular 5 a week or so posts...

I think its time for a break now and get some muNch...

Thanks again Indicium for being understanding as you always are

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Looks like most of the available torrents are in the Kb size range and none have been downloaded more than 10 times. Isn't this pretty much the worst situation to use bittorrent in? http is just way faster and less hassle. Plus it doesn't rely on people seeding hundreds of torrents that hardly ever get downloaded.

Perhaps the only place I can see torrents making sense is on the WIP and program announcement boards. That's where you will find people wanting to host large files and several people wanting to download them.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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