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Fallout
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Anyone looking forward to this game, or been following it? I've only just found out about it and have watched a few vids on YouTube. It looks pretty good, and I was a massive fan of the original, but unfortunately these days it appears impossible to find impartial reviews. All the previews etc. are the usual high 90s paid off reviews.

The original Deus Ex got over 90% from magazines when they weren't corrupt, and it was one of my favourite games. What do people think of the new one?

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PCGamer gave it 93.. i think

hold on let me check
*goes afk*
*comes back*
awww it was 94...

ANYWAY: REALLY REALLY REALLY looking forward to it LOOKS AMAZING

and the cinematic trailer is gold, i want a movie from that! x)

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The trailer is awesome. I don't like the take down thing in the gameplay vids though. The whole notion of automated combat where you press a button and it does it all for you is awful to me. However, I can obviously choose not to do those things as it's nice and open in how you tackle it. PC or PS3, that is the question!

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Quote: "PC or PS3, that is the question! "


since it's essentailly a shooter it's PC for me ^^

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Same here, so long as it's not all consoley. The original had inventory with drag and drop for the mouse etc. If the inventory is all 4 action button based, it may be a bit annoying on PC.

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Quik
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I will still get it for PC, i find shooting on consoles unbearable

and autoaim is not an option lol

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Posted: 6th Aug 2011 19:20
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How can you tell which reviewer has been paid off?

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I'd love to know that too....
I still stick to PCGamer x) And gamespot :3

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I don't think it'll be a mark on the original, but we'll see.



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Posted: 6th Aug 2011 20:20 Edited at: 6th Aug 2011 20:22
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Quote: "How can you tell which reviewer has been paid off?"


No idea!

Quote: "I will still get it for PC, i find shooting on consoles unbearable"


I always did too, until I found the Splitfish Frag FX. It's the only way I can play FPS games on consoles! I'm rubbish with the analogue sticks

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Quote: "No idea. Makes it impossible to trust game review sites. My rule of thumb is, if 2 or 3 review sites give a game 70% and one gives it 95%, don't trust that review site anymore."


that's a lot of hooey, you cannot at all expect every game site to rewiev games alike.

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I edited my post after I posted it because what I said didn't make sense. I don't trust any review sites that constantly give out 90% scores though. I remember the good old days where decent games were 70%, good games were 80% and only awesome games got into the 90%. Half of new games seem to score 90% these days, so a 90% score can mean anything from those sites. It could be no better than another of the countless rehashes of MW2, if I judge it by those scores.

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I consider game reviews like movie reviews. If the reviewer hates it I'll love it.

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Quote: " I remember the good old days where decent games were 70%, good games were 80% and only awesome games got into the 90%."


Me too. I also remember that they wouldn't continually give those game-a-year sequels +90% unless they actually had something innovative about them. *cough* Call of Duty series *cough*



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Quote: "*cough* Call of Duty series *cough*"


*cough* battlefield series *cough*

and we could go on forever.

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But Benj is right. 95% means nothing these days. Add in the corruption, which has been discussed in other threads (the whole free trips and hotels and publisher blackmail discussions), then not only do the numbers have less meaning (cos everyone gets 90%!), you're not even sure if they're corrupt reviews in the first place!

So ...... what do YOU guys think about the game?

I think 94%.

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Is it even out yet? Previews don't count, and games are never graded on previews, are they? I wouldn't be so quick to judge a reviewer who gives higher scores than everyone else. Surely everyone has a difference of opinion. I would rate the COD series highly, because I love and play them all. Just ask your friends their opinions of highly rated movies and I'm sure you'll find some who didn't enjoy it at all, and others who will rave.


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not out yet no, but PCGamer got it before everyone else yaddi yaddi monthly magazine so they decided to make the game rewiev now x)

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Posted: 6th Aug 2011 23:39
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Why did they get it before everyone else I wander? Sounds like a 'gentlemans agreement' to me.

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I may aswell put it out there: basicly every big gaming magazine have the possibilities of pointing money at the game companies and say can we plox rewiev the game now? were in a hurry, here have x money

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First one was one of the best games ever, I still play it! The 2nd one was an epic fail and I couldn't even play it long enough to finish the demo. So my opinion on the 3rd one is a 50/50 shot of it being good.

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Quote: "Why did they get it before everyone else I wander? Sounds like a 'gentlemans agreement' to me."


Every big game does that. It's nothing new, and doesn't mean money has exchanged hands either. They prefer to give exclusivity to an outlet that will give it a high rating, but that's different than *making* them give it a high rating in exchange for money. There's been tons of information about this kind of thing and it's happened forever. Nothing new.


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Quote: "I would rate the COD series highly, because I love and play them all."

Always wanted to hear a former developer of EA say that.

My life is now complete.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2011 11:56 Edited at: 7th Aug 2011 11:59
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Quote: "They prefer to give exclusivity to an outlet that will give it a high rating, but that's different than *making* them give it a high rating in exchange for money. There's been tons of information about this kind of thing and it's happened forever. Nothing new."


It's not new in the last however many years, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the case back in the old day before the internet when it was just magazines, and games weren't as big business.

To me it's undeniable: If they give it a bad review, the publisher won't give them an early review opportunity for their next product. They need these early reviews to get exclusivity and get viewers reading their magazines. So they will always give it a good review, because to badly review it is to forgo any future exclusives from that publisher. So that is undoubtedly biased. Although the content may hint at negativity, the overall summary and score will be biased to protect the magazines interests.

I consider that a degree of social fraud, not because it's being covered up (obviously its not), but because average Joe truly and wrongly believes the review is unbiased, and is therefore mislead.

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to me, you just seem to overthink things

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I'm not a game lover. I find the vast majority of games boring, so it's really important to me to find genuinely good original games before I part with my cash. So for me, the fact I can no longer get harsh honest reviews from magazines is a big shame.

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Quote: "the fact I can no longer get harsh honest reviews from magazines is a big shame."


under the... 6? years i've read PCGamer i havent noticed any kind of difference whatsoever? no wait... 9 years it is

edit: other than new design that is

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Have you been wearing your spectacles?



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Posted: 7th Aug 2011 22:46 Edited at: 7th Aug 2011 22:47
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Quote: "To me it's undeniable: If they give it a bad review, the publisher won't give them an early review opportunity for their next product. They need these early reviews to get exclusivity and get viewers reading their magazines. So they will always give it a good review, because to badly review it is to forgo any future exclusives from that publisher. So that is undoubtedly biased."


But again, you're just assuming that this happens with PC Gamer I know many examples where magazines and online review sites screw themselves over because they refuse to give high reviews for exclusivity. 1UP, for example, messed up their relationship with Ubisoft a few years back because they didn't review the original Assassin's Creed well.

Quote: "So for me, the fact I can no longer get harsh honest reviews from magazines is a big shame."


Just go to the myriad online sites that post unbiased game reviews. Destructoid and Giant Bomb comes to mind.

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If you can prove to me that a magazine gave a high review simply for bribes, then I'll concede. It's all opinion


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Quote: "If you can prove to me that a magazine gave a high review simply for bribes, then I'll concede. It's all opinion"


A guy I saw down the pub once told me he had a friend who spoke to a man in the games industry who read a memo from his boss to an undisclosed game magazine which hinted at the possibility of some form of corruption. Now do you believe me?!?!

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The only reviewer I really trust is PC Gamer UK. Not the US version, I mean seriously? Black Ops was GOTY? Over much better titles like Starcraft 2? PCGUK gave it to Battlefield BC 2.


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I belive swedish PCGamer gave black ops... 70? maybe? 80 perhaps...
duke nukem 60/100 xD every sims game nowadays get like 30 maybe 40 xD

in fact, the last three magazines didnt have any really really good games, i mean most games have been 50/100 and then we have like one or two games with 70+ xD
newest one had a lot of goodies though :3

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"You'll never find him!"

"I'll never stop looking."



I absolutely cannot wait for this game.

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