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Eminent
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What do you guys think about EA's new Steam-like game delivery method? I for one, hate it. It's required if you want to get Battlefield 3, which absolutely sucks because there's nothing wrong with getting it on Steam. Plus, if EA is successful with it, you can bet that every publisher will do the same thing with their game. To be honest, the only thing going for Origin is Battlefield 3. I imagine that most people would not have gotten Origin if they were not to get Battlefield. All in all, it's a pretty bad idea to me. Why try to do copy something that's already so good? It's not like EA can steal away Steam's userbase anytime soon.


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RedneckRambo
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I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to play. I could really care less how I open the game up. But that's just me.

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I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to play. I could really care less how I open the game up. But that's just me.

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Neuro Fuzzy
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^I just don't like having twenty accounts for twenty different things. It's a pain in the arse keeping track of them all, and having different secure passwords for each one.

Plus, the e-mails about news-letters, updates, new features, and the ads they send off don't help. Along with the fact that you have to install their game management system which is usually a couple hundred MB of crap that tries to start up when your computer boots (YES i know you can stop this).

So... basically, it's extra computer junk, and I don't like that.
(same with Microsoft's windows live. I would also say "same with google accounts" because I swear I've had to update my password and account information 10 times with them, and I believe now you have to enter a phone number to get a gmail account, but they have so much useful stuff it's hard to be angry at them.)


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I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to play. I could really care less how I open the game up. But that's just me.

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Travis Gatlin
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Quote: "I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to play. I could really care less how I open the game up. But that's just me."

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I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to pla- wait, I never buy from EA.

Disregard.

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Agent Dink
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Quote: "wait, I never buy from EA."


You're missing out on a lot of great games no matter how you feel about the company

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Posted: 17th Sep 2011 06:08 Edited at: 17th Sep 2011 06:09
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Quote: "I personally don't see why people really care. I just want to play the games I want to play. I couldn't really care less how I open the game up. But that's just me."


If you are all going to copy and paste something like that, at least make sure it makes sense!
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Posted: 17th Sep 2011 06:20 Edited at: 17th Sep 2011 06:27
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My article about the loss of Thou received some comments on the use of “could care less” instead of “couldn’t care less.”
My choice to write “Shakespeare could care less” was a deliberate one. I felt that “could care less” was more euphonious than “couldn’t care less” and sounded a bit “cheekier.” I thought that by now either form of the idiom was acceptable.
How wrong can a writer be?!
So wrong that a Google search of the phrase “could care less” garners 1,930,000 hits. Some of the discussions are quite impassioned. Although the newer form of the expression meaning “not to care at all” has been widely-used for some time, many people still regard it as an uneducated error.
Paul Brians, English professor at Washington State University, points out in an interview with Avi Arditti the difficulty of dealing with idioms that are in the process of changing:
the problem is that as [a new idiom] evolves, you get caught as a user between people who are going with the new pattern and those who know the old pattern and are comfortable with it.
Cautions Brians,
some people will disapprove or think less of you if you say it [the new] way.
He concludes that speakers and writers may choose to use the newer pattern, but that they do so at a certain risk because people who are bothered by the new pattern may be in a position to hire them, or grade their papers, or reject them as social equals.
The Oxford dictionary already recognizes “could care less” as an American colloquialism. Many people, however, regard it as incorrect since it makes no logical sense (if you “could care less” it means that you care at least a bit).

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Neuro Fuzzy
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I could care more what you all think.


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Still doesn't make any logical sense though. Its an incredibly ambiguous statement.
You start off with your sentence with "I don't see why people care" then you've ended it with, "I care" (as that's what "I could care less" technically means).

So there!

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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 17th Sep 2011 07:27 Edited at: 17th Sep 2011 07:28
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What I can't stand is their using the name Origin because they gobbled up the game company Origin who made the Ultima series (and later Ultima Online). I still play EA games but I will never forgive EA for taking over Origin and destroying UO.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 17th Sep 2011 07:29 Edited at: 17th Sep 2011 07:30
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Origin... I'm not sure. I don't like the idea of having to install yet something else just to play another game, but if it pushes Valve to write better software then who can complain.

Quote: "So wrong that a Google search of the phrase “could care less” garners 1,930,000 hits."


Doesn't really say much when a Google search of "more then" (including the quotes) gets about 170,000,000 results.



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Posted: 17th Sep 2011 07:31 Edited at: 17th Sep 2011 07:32
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I couldn't really care less... VS. I really couldn't care less.. Vs. Really, I couldn't care less...

hmmm?

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I bought Crysis 2 and had to activate it on this.. Amusingly enough, after activation I could uninstall Origin and run the game just fine.
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Quik
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i would rather have them all on the same place, aka steam... since i have all my friends on steam and all my games on steam i see no real reason to get new ones...

i also have impulse just to buy SPAZ, turns out that that one got to Steam aswell, and us impulse buyers also got it for steam so now iam not even using impulse anymore lol..

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Quote: " also have impulse just to buy SPAZ, turns out that that one got to Steam aswell, and us impulse buyers also got it for steam so now iam not even using impulse anymore lol..
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get it right now and you won't regret it, if you haven't already!


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Quote: "get it right now and you won't regret it, if you haven't already!"


that was my pointx) i got it on impulse, because it was such an AMAZING game that i couldnt hold myself, if it were MP then i would have waited until steam though

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EA and valve not looking good
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Origin-Steam-digital-Distribution-battlefield-3-gabe-newell,13252.html
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Quote: "Quote: "wait, I never buy from EA."

You're missing out on a lot of great games no matter how you feel about the company"

I think that the point is that the only way that we have to express our displeasure regarding a company's actions is to refuse to reward them with our money.

For instance, and for exactly that reason, I too will not buy an EA game, or an Ubisoft game. I also won't buy Sony products, and recently Apple has also been crossed off my list too for it's worldwide trollish behaviour (Can't compete on product? Then take the opposition to court instead).

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Quote: "You're missing out on a lot of great games no matter how you feel about the company"


Oh sorry, I should point out that it's not because of any hard feelings towards EA (Although they did ruin Spore ). It's just I can't work their shop at all and much prefer steam, which has everything I want anyway It's not a principles thing, it's a laziness thing.

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Quote: "I think that the point is that the only way that we have to express our displeasure regarding a company's actions is to refuse to reward them with our money.

For instance, and for exactly that reason, I too will not buy an EA game, or an Ubisoft game. I also won't buy Sony products, and recently Apple has also been crossed off my list too for it's worldwide trollish behaviour (Can't compete on product? Then take the opposition to court instead)."


pretty much EXACTLY that way i feel, well not for companies.. but say ubisoft usually have REALLY crappy DRMs, so thats a boycott on those games

and EA now is boycotting Steam... so i am boycotting origin pretty much.

Yeah.... selling only on origin and not on steam will totally increase the amount of money they earn!
way to go EA

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I could easily care more about this than I do.

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Le Shorte
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I'm staying away from Origin. Not happy about any of this stuff going on with EA and Steam.

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Ubisoft and their DRMs can have fun on some other computer, but not mine. As for Origin; I'm with most other people, I'm not installing yet another system on my PC. Also not a fan of the way they've treated many of their workers in the past. Looks like it's MW3 for me.

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Quote: "Looks like it's MW3 for me. "


Must... not... bait....

x) even though i do agree, MW3 looks very good imo

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Could buy it then crack it, if you hate origin so much. There's also talk of new server switching on BF3 being done by a 'dev' team. Not sure the how much truth to this there is but would actually give a benefit to cracked players.

As for origin, personally hate the thing. Clunky and annoying, i was roped with it when i got a Hawks 2. Still hate it. I now need two accounts to play a bloody game from steam. Bleeh. Eh ill just buy steam games, save the hassle.


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Quote: "I couldn't really care less... VS. I really couldn't care less.. Vs. Really, I couldn't care less..."


I don't care...and we can all carry on.

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@KeithC
I'm pretty sure it's EA and not Ubisoft that owns Origin.


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Quote: "I'm pretty sure it's EA and not Ubisoft that owns Origin."


pretty sure he didnt state that way

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Eminent
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Read it wrong, sorry.


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Quote: "You're missing out on a lot of great games no matter how you feel about the company "


If by great you mean sub-par, churned out, unfinished garbage, then I'd agree.


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Quote: "If by great you mean sub-par, churned out, unfinished garbage, then I'd agree.
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+1. Thumbs up. Like

whichever x)

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heh

I can't say EA makes great games, or even publishes them a lot of the time. BF3 looks promising, and in it's case, if Origin helps them regulate the MP, then it's fine by me. If it is just trying to grab an audience for origin to try outdo steam, then I sincerely hope they burn


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Doubt it's otherwise.

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Quote: "If by great you mean sub-par, churned out, unfinished garbage, then I'd agree.
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What about Dead Space? Those games certainly aren't sub-par.

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They are to me atleast, there are no scary moments in those games tbh and the shooting and fighting is clunky and dull on a computer =/

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Quote: " there are no scary moments in those games tbh"


Those games are full of terrifying atmosphere. IMO, they do a great job of making you feel uneasy and scared. You don't have to jump for something to be considered scary.

Play it at night with full surround sound or you miss out on a lot. It's not often that I say sound can affect your experiece, but in this case it does for sure.

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Quote: "Those games are full of terrifying atmosphere. IMO, they do a great job of making you feel uneasy and scared. You don't have to jump for something to be considered scary."


it tries so hard, atleast in the beginning: in every corridor there are "dead" enemies that will "wake" with a roar, sure it was terrifying the first 2 times.... but after that: meh.

The monster design is quite alright though

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Quote: "tbh and the shooting and fighting is clunky and dull on a computer =/"

Yeah, it definitely plays better with a gamepad.

Quote: "Those games are full of terrifying atmosphere. IMO, they do a great job of making you feel uneasy and scared. You don't have to jump for something to be considered scary."

Exactly. The lighting, the music, the environment all work together very well.

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Quote: "It's not often that I say sound can affect your experiece, but in this case it does for sure."


I would say sound will always affect your experience

Quote: "If by great you mean sub-par, churned out, unfinished garbage, then I'd agree."


You mean Dead Space, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Battlefield, The Sims (that might be pushing it around here) and Crysis are unfinished garbage?!
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Quote: "Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Battlefield, The Sims (that might be pushing it around here) and Crysis are unfinished garbage"


ME, DA - made by bioware, i have never really seen a bioware game being bad because of pushed deadlines

the sims: do we REALLY need to talk about thos egames? xD

And crysis could really need some polishing here and there, especially the sequel.

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Yes of course, silly me. What I meant was there is a noticeable difference between playing with your TV speakers and playing with surround sound. It doesn't make much difference in FIFA whatever setup you use

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Quote: "What I meant was there is a noticeable difference between playing with your TV speakers and playing with surround sound."


How I wish that swhat i did in Amnesia.... x)
Amnesia, Fear and penumbra overture (which i only played the demo of) and that game, Criminal origins.
Dead island was also rather creepy: the indoor areas anyway ^^

those are my all time favorite scary games, i merely only found dead space to become dull after a while, thats my opinion anyway x)

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Quote: "Dead island"


My favourite thing about Dead Island so far is that fact that I was scared walking around in daylight. It just goes to show that you don't need a game to be pitch black to set a scary atmosphere.

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Another scary thing about DI: EVERY ZOMBIE IS LETHAL, you can get your shoes kicked of ONE zombie if you are not paying attention

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A bit of a bump, but I got Origin for the BF3 beta. Oh my God. It's just as bad as the EADM from my experience so far. I can't even change my display name.

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I actually kind of like it now. It's slick, but bloatware is still bloatware.


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Its worthless: It gives no response to buttonclicks, the interface is chunky.

The layout looks good to the eyes, but thats about it.... Def not a like from me..

I havent even installed BF3 there yet (will do this weekend, if the beta's still up)

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