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Da_Rhyno
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Posted: 17th Oct 2011 23:53
What are your thoughts on it? I had a Motorola Droid for only 2 years, and this is the fifth time I've gotten it replaced because the touchscreen started acting up (acted like it was being touched when it wasn't), and now I can't even use it because it doesn't respond on the left side where the unlock slider is.
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 00:00 Edited at: 18th Oct 2011 00:01
The iPhone 4S seems pretty good to me although I never really seen one in person yet. From what I heard, It sounds better than the iPhone 4 but not by too much. The camera shots at HD (I think 720p or 1080p).

As for droid, I can't really say. I haven't mess with a droid enough to tell you about it.

But I can say that the iPhone 4S is a good device, but I believe it could have been better. There just doesn't seem like there's enough features to make it a replacement for the iPhone 4 IMO...

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 00:04
My Motorola Droid is still going strong, an absolutely brilliant phone IMO - it's a shame yours is kaput. Are you sure you want to be an early adopter? Personally I would wait until it's been out a while and they've ironed out any niggles. Also, is there any need to have a 4S as opposed to either an iPhone 4 or 3GS? It should shave a hell (relative) of a lot off the price if you were to go with an older model.

If your technical skills are up to scratch (read: you have a steady hand) then I would just go and replace the digitizer on your screen. You could pick up a replacement for about $10 - 15 and once replaced it would be good as new. Also make sure you eliminate a software problem - try flashing Cyanogen Mod 7 on it, it should definitely prolong the lifespan of your Droid.

No doubt there will be a few Apple-naysayers who feel obliged to share their arrogant opinions with you (I guarantee half of them have no basis to make themselves opinionated on the topic in the first place). Having been on both sides I can say that the UI on the iPhone is a joy to use and feels extremely responsive and intuitive at all times. Android is obviously a lot more of a versatile and open platform, but this comes at a price. Some apps may have compatibility issues as well as the UI sometimes (very rarely) feeling a little slugish.

At the end of the day it's your choice. If you are happy with iOS being a closed platform and can afford the extra premium for Apple products then go for it. If customizability is more important to you then go for another Android phone.


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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 00:15 Edited at: 18th Oct 2011 00:16
There's software bugs and there overly brittle, i mean i watched someone drop one on the table about an inch off it and the screen shattered :S He of course never meant it and had a case.

An is the price difference justifiable between 4 / 4s? Bare in mind the fifth is out next year

Simple google brings up alot of them.

Lastly seems there are worries on the new I5's combusting, though that may be rumor~ few of the many type deal.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 01:10
Quote: "There's software bugs and there overly brittle, i mean i watched someone drop one on the table about an inch off it and the screen shattered :S He of course never meant it and had a case. "


Wow, I keep dropping my iPod Touch 4th Generation and it's fine, it's a given that anything touch screen is going to be a little fragile, but not that fragile. Unlucky person.

I guess as an iPod Touch user and not an iPhone user I can only talk about iOS. I've found it very intuitive and a joy to use and the only trouble is iTunes isn't the greatest piece of software when used on Windows, but I don't plug it in for iTunes that often, I only used it recent to update to the latest iOS version and included with it is a feature that allows you to update wirelessly without the use of iTunes...handy. Of course I transfer music, videos and photos (I've only got an 8gb and I have a library of music that's larger than that), I don't find iTunes to be all that buggy, it's just it isn't always completely responsive.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 02:34
Simply put:

Buy an iOS device if you like spoon fed tech, not really concerned about customization, simple, some games and social networking, you'll like everything the phone has to offer then and there, but nothing new will ever come.

Buy an Android device if you love tech and know how to use it, you like to make a device be yours with limitless customization, you like the ability to have new and interesting things pop-up for your device, you like flow and speed, but also like detail.

My vote: get an Android device. I have a Droid:Bionic and it is a much, much more superior to any iOS device. I like being able to use my tech and not have simplistic things aimed at teens/kids spoon-fed to me.


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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 02:39
I've seen a couple iPhone 4's cracked from people who dropped them once, and others without a scratch that have been dropped more than once. Depends on the angle of impact and how good your case is.

I wouldn't underestimate the difference between the 4 and the 4S. The 4S has a dual core processor and from what I hear the difference just for normal apps is more than noticeable, and for games I imagine it should be very nice. Plus there's Siri, which you may or may not care for. But if you have the money, I'd say get the 4S, but I'm the kind of person who gets a lot of use out of my phone and wants the most modern option.
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 02:59
Don't get an iPhone...get a different brand.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 03:02
Quote: "Possibly getting an iPhone 4S... any objections?"


Yes, I don't like you getting anything I can't afford right now.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 05:00 Edited at: 18th Oct 2011 05:01
It's getting messy, as Samsung filed for an injunction against the 4s in Australia..

personally, if you want one.. buy one..

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 06:10
Quote: "It's getting messy, as Samsung filed for an injunction against the 4s in Australia.. "


Why is that?
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 06:12
I got the 4S the day it came out in the UK, 14 Oct. It's noticeably faster than the 4, better battery, far better signal. It's what the 4 should of been. As for price, depend what your getting. If it's a contract, you'll find it's no different than a 4, actually most places I went had the exact price scheme for the 4 and 4S. The one off cost on the other hand is higher, but only by a tiny bit.

Siri is still in beta, but a load of laughs. Like asking it "Am I hot?" and it responding "No your not". But it's quite impressive when it gets it right. I can see it being very handy for drivers that need to send a message or read one without have to let go of the steering wheel.

Believe me, it's well worth it. Plus the app support is huge. Though androids market is catching. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S2. Great phone, really fast, faster than the 4 but don't think as fast as the 4S, but the battery is so bad its not worth it.
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 06:45
Quote: "Why is that?"

One word, patents.

I had an IPhone 3G 3 years ago and loved it. One problem with it though is the battery runs out pretty quickly. I ended up charging it daily. I'm not entirely sure that's still the case but I've heard from friends that the battery drains quickly on the iPhone 4. I currently have an nokia n8. It doesn't have the best OS but it has a decent battery life and I'm not as distracted by playing games like with the iPhone. It also has a pretty good camera.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 11:33
Nearly all current phones that are high spec required to be charged daily. Why you ask, well it's all down to lighting that screen. If you turn the brightness down to nothing, you'll notice an iphone (or other phones) for instance can last over 2 days. Longest I got the 4s to stay on was 3 days. Soon as I chucked up the brightness, about a day. Unless your doing some gaming or watching movies then it's less.

The 4S is quite good, that dual core CPU handles stuff more efficiently, so the drain isn't as much. The is where the Samsung Galaxy S2 got it wrong, that thing can require two charges in one day.

But as I said, it's all a matter of brightness. If you've got any iPhone, give it a test.
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 11:54 Edited at: 18th Oct 2011 11:55
Quote: "Quote: "Why is that?"
One word, patents. "


Probably would have something to do with Apple sueing Samsung for the same reason. Basically the mobile market is full of people sueing each other, not just Apple and Samsung either.

Of course they can just learn to love each other, I mean my iPod Touch and Samsung Tocco Lite sit in my pocket together without trying to start a fight.

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Quote: "Basically the mobile market is full of people sueing each other"


Agreed. What's reallly ridiculous is the things that they get away with patenting. I'll dig some up, but it's as crazy as the location of an icon. And I don't mean the icon itself which is generally copyrighted or tm, but like the general location of it.

There's even more outrageous examples. And they all copy from eachother and other technologies before them.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 12:59
Quote: "Yes, I don't like you getting anything I can't afford right now.

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Same.
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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 13:59
Quote: "Of course they can just learn to love each other, I mean my iPod Touch and Samsung Tocco Lite sit in my pocket together without trying to start a fight.
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I think it is time all of those companies called truce with each other but of course, the day that happens will be the day all of the patents become invalid.

Quote: "Nearly all current phones that are high spec required to be charged daily."

True but my Nokia's not too bad though.

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I say go for it, better to get an iPhone4S than getting some Android phone and wishing you'd gotten a 4S instead. Seriously, I've never been impressed by Android, I'd rather have a Blackberry than an Android phone. These days it's apps that make all the difference, and the Apple store and iOS is the best by a long, long, long way. My 2nd gen iPod Touch is better for apps than any Android device I've used.

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Posted: 18th Oct 2011 20:43
Quote: "I say go for it, better to get an iPhone4S than getting some Android phone and wishing you'd gotten a 4S instead. Seriously, I've never been impressed by Android, I'd rather have a Blackberry than an Android phone. These days it's apps that make all the difference, and the Apple store and iOS is the best by a long, long, long way. My 2nd gen iPod Touch is better for apps than any Android device I've used."


Buy an Android device.


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Quote: "Quote: "I say go for it, better to get an iPhone4S than getting some Android phone and wishing you'd gotten a 4S instead. Seriously, I've never been impressed by Android, I'd rather have a Blackberry than an Android phone. These days it's apps that make all the difference, and the Apple store and iOS is the best by a long, long, long way. My 2nd gen iPod Touch is better for apps than any Android device I've used."

Buy an Android device.
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Buy an iOS Device


To be honest, at the end of the day, [insert any other cliche phrase], it's down to personal preferences. All touch-screen devices are delicate and not THAT durable (vs my old Motorola non-touchscreen, which was pretty much indestructable) and it seems some people are lucky and find they survive a drop, whilst others are unlucky. On one hand I drop my iPod all of the time and my Samsug Tocco Lite (I'm a clumsy bastard), yet my Dad dropped his iPod once and it cracked - the surface it drops onto I think can make all the difference too. The OP is having a lot of trouble with his Android device, whereas others have had a great experience with them. If you know a brand you can trust, I'd argue to go with them.

There's nothing wrong with an Apple device, like ANY other company they'll have devices that aren't up to the expected standards and iOS is pretty damn good, as I've said it's incredibly intuitive and ergonomic - for me that's a major selling point (particuarly ergonomics), for somebody else customisation might be the major selling point for a device.

If you can, go to a store and test out the devices for yourself and see what you think is best. The major difference between an Apple and any other device is, if anything goes wrong with an Apple device people will make a massive deal out of it and sit there gloating telling you how crap Apple is.

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My advice would be get it on a contract which will let you upgrade to the iPhone 5 when it gets released. Other than that; have fun


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I'm looking into buying one myself. As my old Xperia just wasted itself.
Need for testing my app anyway.
Annnnnnd the government just gave me money for one so I'm pretty sure I shall get it.

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I quite like my little Motorola Defy, they're tough little smartphones!

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Quote: "I can see it being very handy for drivers that need to send a message or read one without have to let go of the steering wheel."


People who say or do stuff like this scare me...I text when it's inconvenient for the other person I am wanting to call...I never text and drive. If I'm driving, and something is important enough for me to take my attention off the road, I'll pull over at the next stop...even if it's to call the person.

You have 168 hours in the week to contact the person, why text them right at that moment, when you're driving?

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Posted: 19th Oct 2011 18:39 Edited at: 19th Oct 2011 18:41
I'm sure he was joking about it, nobody is that stupid.

Actually i'll take that back, people are that stupid, but I'd like to think that he's joking.

As for the 4S, go for it. I've been an iP4 user for almost a year now and it's great, so I can only imagine the 4S is even better. Apple's support is also second to none.

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I thought Android phones were generally a bit poor until I got a HTC phone. Personally (and it's all about personal preference boys and girls!), I find HTC outstanding, looks wise, build quality and performance.

Android as an OS does bug me quite a lot, but as Almix says, it's far more hands on and more capable. But I have to admit, for 90% of users, iOS is enough, so get what you want.

Oh, one other thing to consider is the Android market is full of crap, but there are real gems in there too, and the average app price is far far less. So if you want to download a lot of apps and not break the bank, droid is the only choice.

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I have to admit, having only used an Android a few times, it seems the big selling point is the level of customisation. What exactly is customisable on Android/how does it all work?

My personal experience is that I've always found a jailbroken iOS device to pretty much allow you to change anything you could ever want to change.

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Quote: "So if you want to download a lot of apps and not break the bank, droid is the only choice.
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Saying that, apps in general are quite inexpensive, unless you're buying from Square Enix, but then they've been putting on titles they retailed for a lot more on other systems (like NDS). Though Android does have the advantage of them being cheaper and the disadvantage of having to rage through a load of bum shoes first. Apple has a few more hoops to go through before something goes on their App Store, which I guess allows for less crap to seep in.

I occassionally browse through the App Store just to see what's new. But if you're looking for something in particular I suspect it won't be too hard to find it for either device - I've just taken up the guitar in and just downloaded a free chord-book app that comes with a guitar tuner...because I'm too much of a cheap bastard to actually go out and buy those things.

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Quote: "My advice would be get it on a contract which will let you upgrade to the iPhone 5 when it gets released. Other than that; have fun"


Nothing like committing to a 2500 dollar contract to save a couple bucks :S


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Is that how much those are? I'd avoid that.

Shame on whoever suggested that


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Samsung Genio Touch.

I've used an iPad at work, and given the 4S is essentially the same processor downsized, I doubt I'll be too fussed over it.

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Pretty sure it's a $1200 contract... $49 a month for 24 months. Can have higher plans obviously though.

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At the end of the month I'm intending to get a Sony Xperia Play, with a 1ghz processor and dedicated graphics it boasts a game play time of over 5 hours, and comes with Android 2.3 installed so I'll be able to develop apps on it with App Game Kit. At a price of £199.99 Payg, (vs £499 iPhone 4S, Samsung Galaxy SII @ £449.99) it's a no brainer for me.

I don't care about the playstation certified stuff or the gamepad it has, and size and weight have never bothered me much, and granted the S2 and 4S are more than twice the speed of the Xperia Play. But then it's also half the price so that doesn't bother me. In addition to this if I intend to develop apps for android phones, I want a nice middle model. Something that gives me a realistic idea of how games will run across all phone models. From the slower phones with a mere 600mhz processor, to the older 1ghz galaxy s series. Not everyone has a new phone, and I'd rather try to do more with an Xperia, knowing that it's likely to translate to other devices, than max out an S2 knowing that nothing else is going to have the raw horsepower needed.

I considered going for the Galaxy Ace as well, which is down to £129.99 but it still runs Android 2.2, and there's no sign of a 2.3 update in it's future without rooting the phone which I'd rather like to avoid doing.

Anyway as a development phone, to my mind the Xperia play is a pretty good choice.
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2011 16:41 Edited at: 23rd Oct 2011 16:42
@Daniel - You need to use the Android NDK to code for the Xperia Play controls, to my knowledge, as they're not supported by the SDK. So I doubt AppGameKit will ever support the controls. Just a heads up! But if you don't care about the game pad, then it should all be good.

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It's ok I have zero interest in the game pad. It's a nice android 2.3 device I can develop software on. I doubt the play station certified thing will ever take off, so there's absolutely no point in developing for it. I'll just prod the screen like a normal phone.

But I bet you can't find a phone with those specs for the same price! It's a good middle ground phone to develope on I think.

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