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Geek Culture / Top 10 stupid movie computer clichées

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WLGfx
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I can't wait for wireless speeds to be as fast as they are in Star Trek. Wow! Then can transfer there whole computer files at amazing speeds and over huge distances. No-one will need to go to McDonalds to use the free wireless anymore...

Mental arithmetic? Me? (That's for computers) I can't subtract a fart from a plate of beans!
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Didn't they upload the entire data on Earth once and it took like a couple of hours and used up like a 10th of the available storage space?

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Posted: 27th Oct 2011 22:22
No they uploaded the entire data of the Binar planet

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Notice how there is only one system that they need to access to get ALL data, and even control ALL systems, like the physical security/burg system,, Employee files,, Financial Statements, E-mail...


example: "Ok were in!!!"
list of directories
[Employee Profile Data]
[Cusomer Data]
[Finance Department]
[Security Controls]
[Top Secret Records_Communications]

"Shutting down there firewall..I'm unlocking the doors. Taking down the phones... Dumping all the financial records.... copying employee records... oh what's this. Looks like some secret project they are devloping... <copy>. I'll download all of the e-mails..."
ETC... ETC...

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We are all hating on movies, but video games don't do a better job if you think about it.

However, video games are meant to be played, and movies are supposed to convey a story...Accurately!
Lets Keep Hating!!!!


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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 11:14
Quote: "We are all hating on movies, but video games don't do a better job if you think about it"


I'm afraid you are quite correct.

To me The Hive (which I've already ranted about) is an awful cliche in video games, it's quite cheap and comes off to me as lazy writing. If there's aliens or mutants there's a good chance there's a hive...I guess because aliens were originally...bees?

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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 12:29
Quote: "To me The Hive (which I've already ranted about) is an awful cliche in video games, it's quite cheap and comes off to me as lazy writing. If there's aliens or mutants there's a good chance there's a hive...I guess because aliens were originally...bees?
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And a queen which does a good job being a bossenemie.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 13:24 Edited at: 31st Oct 2011 13:25
Precisely.

We get lot of aliens that seem to follow the principle of bees or ants, but what about a race of aliens that follow the principle of Dolphins? I mean Dolphins are intelligent creatures, what if a dolphinoid race on an alien planet gained a higher level of sentience and found a means of developing their own technology? But I guess such an idea would just sound ridiculous in a board meeting. Oh well, my copy of FPSC from the Winter Fire sale has been processed, perhaps I will make it my mission.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 14:09
Quote: " But I guess such an idea would just sound ridiculous in a board meeting."


It does, it really really does... x)


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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 19:03
Well, I'm sure those aliens at the end of Ecco the Dolphin didn't find it so ridiculous that a dolphin had managed to invade their mothership and went out killing all those on board...I mean Ecco must have been an alien to them. Of course, that is assuming the gamer was leet enough to beat Welcome The Machine. Man that game was awesome, just impossible, at least that's what I remember from being a kid.

Okay, I'll admit Ecco did the whole aliens things well. And dolphins from the future, they could fly.

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Quote: "No they uploaded the entire data of the Binar planet"
Could swear they did upload Earths data. Was a time travel episode and they were watching our rubbish daytime TV (and getting addicted to it I think).

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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 19:49
Quote: "Precisely.

We get lot of aliens that seem to follow the principle of bees or ants, but what about a race of aliens that follow the principle of Dolphins? I mean Dolphins are intelligent creatures, what if a dolphinoid race on an alien planet gained a higher level of sentience and found a means of developing their own technology? But I guess such an idea would just sound ridiculous in a board meeting. Oh well, my copy of FPSC from the Winter Fire sale has been processed, perhaps I will make it my mission.

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Yes! Even though the Aliens that have hives are usually not very intelligent. But that's something else that bugs me, actually intelligent alienraces in videogames tend to behave like mindless monsters.

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That's it, how can a race be so intelligent that they can invent a means to travel across light years across space and develop highly complex very powerful weapons capable of doing serious damage but can't even come up with a decent battle plan? You'd think in after Crysis that the aliens would make more of an effort to take out that one guy running around with a nanosuit running around killing stuff.

Numerous occasions the problem could have been solved like this:
"Hey, he just shot that guy! Quick, bring that gun ship down here! We'll just provide cover fire until you get down here."

Instead it's:

"Hey, he just went around that corner! Lets follow him...uh oh...no cover, instead of diving for some cover, lets just shoot him...yeah, that'll wor...blarrrrghhlglhh".

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Intellect comes in many forms. Intellect as in building stuff is vastly different from intellect as in political intellect etc...

So to base it of that their technology is AMAZING therefore every other aspect of them must be clever aswell is rather dull imo

Human race is a rather big proof of that isnt it..


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Posted: 31st Oct 2011 23:30
Aye, but it seems killing them at times is rather obvious, predictable and unoriginal. Infiltrate the hive, destroy the enemy from the inside out and much rejoicing. Of course, not every alien game does it of course, its just a cliche and I actually feel an invading alien race would cover their bases a little better and try a less 'meat-shield' approach to winning.

I think there's games that manage to break some expectations and do it differently, I like how the Mass Effect games work, yes there's infiltration, but it doesn't come off as too cliched and goes into great depth as far as story is concerned and it seems a lot of things are considered...like at the beginning of ME2 that Shepherd is in fact a threat who must be dealt with before any kinds of plans can continue.

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We're getting the wrong impression of alien races because they are far more advanced than we think they are. It's not 'us' that write games or make films to watch. It's the aliens themselves!!! See...

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Posted: 1st Nov 2011 15:48
I like District 9's approach where the intellectual caste invent the high-tech equipment to be used by the average prawn who has no clue how it works, only how to operate it.

I personally couldn't design a plasma TV or an assault rifle.

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Aye, but if you're being sent to invade a planet you'll know how to use the assault rifle, receive training and a superior will hatch a well thought out plan, particularly if you're dealing with an unfamiliar and unknown life form. I suppose if you work it in the story that these aliens are led by an arrogant and incompetent leader, mayhaps. I understand that they're just as open to error and stupidity as we are. I dunno, I feel, particularly when it comes to the hives cliche it's just lazy writing and not for anything reasonable.

Mass Effect has those soldiers, heck when it comes to the geth they're not individually intelligent and they're disposable units who know how to fire a weapon but aren't necessarily intelligent themselves. The collectors are plenty disposable and of course you get Harbinger which controls a collector and makes them a lot tougher, but in ME2 the collectors managed to set up a trap in order to try and kill your squad and of course at the beginning of ME2, they know to do what they can to kill Shepherd.

At the beginning of Crysis 2, yeah kudos they gave Prophet a virus, but you seem to manage to infiltrate the city, infiltrate the hive with just meagre aliens who just run at you like a suicide bomber who left his detonator in the back of his car. Granted, some hide around corners, but I get the feeling despite how effective your Nanosuit is and how well it dealt with aliens in Crysis and continues to pwn aliens pretty damn well in Crysis 2 that they're rather quick to underestimate your abilities and slow to react to your presence.

I can think of one bit where I have to 'watch out' for a ship because it fires quite deadly shots - I wasn't at all stealthy, opened fire, took out all of the aliens there, who very kindly offered themselves to me and I managed to openly run across in open space without that ship coming in to fire its mighty lasers at me. After the first guy I killed surely the second guy would have called in the nearby reinforcement whilst hiding behind some cover? What did he do? He ran at me. So did the rest.

When infiltrating the hive and taken out several pillars/arms/things, you think they'd be able to predict where I was going to strike next and up the defence instead of having 3-4 normal guys and a big tank guy that doesn't know how to look around corners when somebody's shooting at him? 3-4 guys, easy to take out - just head shots with a sniper rifle, maybe something else for those who get closer, then you can run the big guy around obstacles, take cover and hide and spring out again, repeat until he's dead.


That's just Crysis 2 though, but that's because I've been playing through it recently and is most fresh in my mind.

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I quite enjoyed Crysis 2 from a gameplay standpoint. It's very fun, and the Nanosuit's a bit more seamless this time around.

In District 9, the higher caste all died in a plague, so all that was left was the average drones who were evacuated via a ship and ended up on Earth with all this tech and no knowledge of how to use it.

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Quote: "That's it, how can a race be so intelligent that they can invent a means to travel across light years across space and develop highly complex very powerful weapons capable of doing serious damage but can't even come up with a decent battle plan?"

Klingons anyone?

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Posted: 1st Nov 2011 22:48
TBH I liked Crysis 2 from a gameplay standpoint too, but the plot was rather cliched and unoriginal and I think the aliens weren't too bright.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2011 23:09
Oh yeh. It was still fun as a kinda Predator simulator more than anything...

The plot was cliched, but I like how rather than just BFG-ing the hive down, your suit slowly turns into Benadryl to kill the aliens.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2011 00:26
Quote: "Klingons anyone?"


Klingons always kick arse.

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Quote: "Klingons always kick arse."


You mean they stick to it.



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only slightly realted to the OP but when they show people playing a playstation/xbox or xbox/playstation (No favouritism) they constanly smash all the buttons and wildly wave the controller around
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2011 03:10 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2011 03:15
Watched Super Troopers today and can't get that one scene out of my head, keep giggling to myself;



OMG! This one is better, I love Red Dwarf;


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Super Troopers is one of the most awesome films out there.

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Good examples there. I haven't seen that Red Dwarf before.

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Posted: 5th Nov 2011 17:32
If you want to watch EVERY computer cliche you could possibly imagine, watch the TV show 'Leverage'. There is literally every possible computer cliche you could even think of.

With that said, it's one of my favorite tv shows lol.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2011 01:06
Quote: "Imagine working there 8 hours a day and the terminals constantly beep all around you."

you would probably loose it

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Posted: 24th Nov 2011 19:37 Edited at: 24th Nov 2011 19:40
Quote: " Computers (especially in military bases) make dramatic beeping and interface sounds....all the time. Imagine working there 8 hours a day and the terminals constantly beep all around you."


Just happened to watch Cinemassacre's top 10 worst movie cliches and just yesterday watched Nostalgia Critic's top ten best cliches and now this. I'm on a "top 10 cliches" spree here.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2011 08:25 Edited at: 25th Nov 2011 08:25
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