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Geek Culture / How do you see the British Isles?

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JRH
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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 10:03
Last night I was thinking, and I became curious as to how much the world knows about the British Isles, notably what countries it is made up of and any stereotypes you have, without looking it up?

I do not want a forum fight, this isn't about the correct answer, it's about perception and knowledge.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 10:35
A Tiny little group of islands with good soil. The last country to get away with taking over the world by force(To this date at least)
great music, smashing accents, brilliant humor.

Some conflict between the English, Scottish and Irish that I don't understand and dare not ask about.

one quote comes to mind and it doesn't work in writing so ill try this phonetically "its not eyowgert, its yogert"
I had an English friend who was pedantic about the pronunciation of yogurt and we gave him heaps about it for the entire duration of his stay in Australia.

I like the queen because she always say's I can drink beer.(Heads I get beer tails I don't)

spice girls were the worst ever British export.

whole place is soccer mad to a degree that is puzzling to an outsider.

you really know how to riot.

if you have any form of British accent your chances of getting laid in Australia are greatly improved, also strangely enough the chances of getting in a fight with a bogan are also greatly improved.

double decker buses... how crazy, single decker buses are sometimes wiped out going under bridges here, your bridges must all be huge!

London bridge fell down once apparently

captain cook was apparently cooked by cannibals. but also apparently that was a lie and people just liked the irony of the story.

that's about all I have off the top of my head without reciting school history(yawn)

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 15:09
Correct. Kezzla is the new official UK wiki.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 16:12
Quote: "spice girls were the worst ever British export."


lol how do you think us Brits felt about them, having to put up with them on our doorstep!!!!

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 16:27
-You're on the cutting edge of weird.

-Your major export is bands/music.

-All your intelligence agencies are corrupt.

-You have a good sense of humor except about yourself.

-You drive tiny cars very fast on the wrong side of the road and in circles.

-Most of you think you're secret agents.

-Your children are born with hair of wild colors which changes as they get older.

-Your police are all named Bobby and beat you mercilessly with nightsticks.

NOTE: All of my knowledge comes from movies, so it's probably correct.

Brian.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 16:35
Quote: "spice girls were the worst ever British export"


I disagree, listen to the current pop music in the charts.

Quote: "-You drive tiny cars very fast on the wrong side of the road and in circles."


I was going to make a joke about obesity in the US but then I remembered what it's like in the UK.



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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 18:42
In response/defense; Here's what I'd ammend to Kezzla's points

-A relatively small island (not THAT small, USA is essentially a behemoth) with monstrously average soil quality. Indeed are producers of all the good music after rock and roll.

-Conflicts between the seperate countries of the UK and Ireland are entirely fabricated; Scotland just wants reassurance it's a country of its own

- it's yogg-urt not yo-gurt

-She said what? all she does is wave and say "so what do you do?" when she's outside the palace

-The only worse export is Victoria Beckham going to the US, which is somewhat paradoxical

-I don't understand the foot-to-ball thing either

-We don't riot, we just moan. The London riots were just down to the government picking the wrong time to cut the police force

-Just sound like any of the James bonds'

-We haven't had one of these in service since the mid noughties; the double deckers actually used are just sensible, we don't have many tunnels in the city, and any there are big enough

-I can't confirm, It may have been during the great fire of london, that was the 1600's; is not the bridge you're thinking of

-I didn't do history; I shall stop here


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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 20:17
Quote: "-You're on the cutting edge of weird."


I'll take that as a complement. Weird is good.

Quote: "-Your major export is bands/music."


\m/ Admittedly I am proud of some of the music to have come out of this country because they are pretty awesome. But I don't think it's any bigger than America's export.

Quote: "-All your intelligence agencies are corrupt."


Probably a mix of that...and idiocy.

Quote: "-You have a good sense of humor except about yourself."


Actually we probably mock ourselves the most these days.

Quote: "-Most of you think you're secret agents."


Never heard that one. Well...I am still anonymous to you, so how do you know that I'm not a secret agent? Hmm? Your computer will self-destruct in 5 seconds...are you sure you want to call me out on a bluff on this one. Go on and run.


Then feel like a wally afterwards.


Quote: "-Your police are all named Bobby and beat you mercilessly with nightsticks."


To a degree. But like you yanks we have our police brutality stories, except instead of being pistol whipped they're beaten with sticks.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 21:58
Chavs...chavs everywhere.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 23:11 Edited at: 11th Nov 2011 23:12
Ya disrespectin' me country are ya? Eh? Oo* you fink you are eh bruv? Fink yer wellard do ya? Ya startin'? Ye flipping startin' boyeee! Innit dat kid fink he proper gangsta. Watch as I flippin' knock ya out. Ya havin' a laff ain't ya?

Well I'll sort you out later breadbin.



I concur with the previous statement by the kindly gentleman obsessed unicorns. There are chavs everywhere. Why, as a gentleman of a purely British origin, I am quite a chav, wouldn't you say so old bean?


*[edit]I don't think I've ever heard the 'wh' pronounced.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 23:49 Edited at: 11th Nov 2011 23:50
Very British... ha ha

I'm not sure whether I call my self English or British, probably both.

British food has been tainted with all the foreign stuff nowadays (Fair enough some of it is addictive). I still have a good sossy butty with brown sauce or a full English breakfast (including black pudding).

Liverpool and Birkenhead still have those big double decker buses. I have a fear of the upper deck, it's not natural for a bus to tilt 30 degrees and still stand, and it's worse when the bus is full.

For such a small country in land mass the accents are extremely plentiful. A mile down the road and there's a whole new accent. The worst of those accents in Britain has definitely got to be from Birmingham (Brummy). People around the world reckon us scousers have a seductive accent. Although my own Birkenhead accent is a posher version of scouse.

Wales has got to be the safest place on this planet to live during any conflicts or wars as no-one has anything against them.

We Brits haven't properly caught up with the times yet as we are still having to use the British Summer Time during the summer. And the strangest thing is now, is that is now being the blame for teenage obesity. What? Cos we lose an hour.

Gawds I could probably go on. I'll save y'all and stop here...

EDIT: Just gonna make meself a sossy and brown sauce butty...

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 01:48
My first thought when reading the title was, with a tall tower and a good telescope...

My views of the British are shaped by Dr Who, Are you being Served?, and Keeping Up Appearances. Don't shatter my perception, by telling me Hyacinth Bucket does not really exist.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 02:12
Quote: "A mile down the road and there's a whole new accent."


Suspicious.
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The British Isles are ilands in britain, I guess, I did not look any thing up,I know nothing about the British Isles, I would like to know more now that it has been brought up.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 03:22
Scotland, England, Ireland (North) and Wales, are the uk or britain.

having lived in scotland for quite a while (my whole life) I can probably give some insight into the country.

- as stated, most people have a good sense of humour... most

- weird?! what? ya messing?

- the weather here consists of, rain, wind and an occasional sighting of that massive ball of light in the sky, the sun is it?

- many scottish people don't acctually know what other scottish people are saying, just go to aberdeen

- the whole of britain is rich with history and culture

- i believe the only country to offer deep fried mars bars and pizza slices, mabey the americans have adopted that one

- I've never woken up thinking that i was a secret agent, not too sure where that one's come from, although it's always fun to pretend

- there are more people currently living in london than there are pepole in scotland, I often find that that suprises people

- we often like to pretend that there wont be a winter or summer in the year so that they come as a suprise, this isn't ever good when we get snow, but brilliant when we get four or five days of warmth

not much else for me at least to say really, hope i didnt get anythin wrong, that would be embarassing

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 03:26 Edited at: 12th Nov 2011 03:34
I may tick-of some of my fellow Americans,, But IMHO...

If I answer honestly I would have to say that the "majority" of Americans...(Not sure if it's due to our short comparative history,, our geographical makeup [we are more isolated geographically from the number of countries that can be reached by rail as in Europe, and/or a general lack of world-wide travel for many citizens]) have a fairly (geo/ego)-centric view of the world.

I am from New York (approx 30 miles outside of NYC/Manhattan),, and I believe that generally people in the North East U.S. and people from some major cities eg. (L.A.,, Houston,, Chicago,, Miami etc...) have a further localized (geo/ego)-centric view of the United States,, Never mind the world. Especially more so if they are not in the College/University system.

I was a decent student (B+). But If it weren't for Animaniacs episodes/songs, I doubt I could place many of the States and Capitals in the U.S. nor many of the Countries around the world. I have (traveled/travelled =) ) because of my service in the U.S. Air Force. I think that has helped broaden my view somewhat. Even still, I find it difficult to shake my NY-Centric views.

If it weren't for Richard Garriot (aka Lord British) and my love for Iron Maiden in junior H.S. ... I doubt I would know the difference between Great Britain/Britannia,, the UK,, or the British Isles, by my standard U.S. education alone. I'm not trying to put down Americans,, or our educational system. I am sure that the information was taught along the way.

Perhaps I am being hard on Americans,, as I can't say that I...
1. Have a right to speak for Americans as a whole
2. Know how much information other countries learn and/or retain with regard to world geography outside of their localization.
3. How differently information is being taught these days,, and the difference in curriculum (even then) outside of my local School District.

There is a chance that by sharing this,, I may expose myself as being ignorant. But I'm sure that most of the people I know,, regardless of educational achievement, couldn't name the differences between GB, UK, and the British Isles. If I didn't have an early interest in gaming, Monty Python, Heavy Metal... I don't think I could either.

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After saying all of that... I doubt I have enough experience on the issue to state an actual opinion!!!

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 04:26 Edited at: 15th Nov 2011 06:16
Im from Scotland now live in Erie PA, I reckon it sums it all up when I get asked if we celebrate Christmas 'over there', or seem amazed that we dont have racoons. Sigh!
I dont have an accent but I love the ones you guy's got.
The wife (American) never tires of correcting my spelling of the word colour and I am going to introduce many slang words to the local school system via the kids, who will get to call all the other kids rude names (for a while at least).
Americans are very proud of their lineage, which they know absolutely nothing about, much same as most Europeans (they couldn't care less about their lineage).
Its ironic when a couple of their most necessary needs were invented by Scots, television and the telephone. England Wales and Ireland have plentiful inventions too.

The first car designed to run on gasoline was invented by a German (Karl Benz) not Ford as y'all seem to believe. If you really want to get picky about it, Leonardo Da Vinci designed the first car and flying machine (he never visited America) and the Chinese invented gunpowder which y'all seem so fond of.
Education is relevant when it comes to history and world geography/social studies, since my country is so small I reckon we had room for a broader spectrum. The British empire once spanned a sixth of the world, those old atlas's you see with all the pink areas....British. Canada I believe still has the queen on their coins. Now it might sound like I am blowing the British trumpet here but to be honest Britain is a pale shadow of its former Glory (they still rank amongst the best educated and innovative folks around the world, but society itself is crumbling just like all Western countries full of eejits that think it should all be handed to them on a plate.

Quote: "We Brits haven't properly caught up with the times yet as we are still having to use the British Summer Time during the summer."

Most of the Western world still does the same (including America, DST).

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 04:52
I think that all English people wear tophats, smoke pipes have fancy mustashes, drink tea (like, all the time. Tea is the only liquid English people consume, and i would feel sorry for any man who gets between an Englishman and his tea). Englishpeople like football (not the american kind but real football) and i think boxing. I am not even gonna start on the accent and the manner of speech (i frigging love English accents and the way Englishpeople talk).


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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 08:49 Edited at: 12th Nov 2011 08:52
You know what Pagan, I would actually like a top hat and pipe, don't forget the cane too. As for a fancy moustache, I have trouble growing those. And I do drink tea all of the time, so I'm not doing my country's stereotypes any good. Plus scones and crumpets are seriously awesome. Never tried spotted dick though.

I think we share one characteristic at least, we're always the villains in American films.

I know people can get a little confused about names, it's basically: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. So when we say UK we mean all of the countries in our Kingdom. When we say Britain we mean all of the countries on the bigger of the two main islands. When we say England, we just mean one of the countries, which is where the Queen lives.

Also, this is what the British Empire used to be (current overseas territory is underlined in red):



We could take it all back you know? At any time, we're just waiting for the right moment, anticipating our move.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 09:46
Quote: "the weather here consists of, rain, wind and an occasional sighting of that massive ball of light in the sky, the sun is it?"


As someone who lives on the south coast (Southampton), I must say I always feel sorry for Scots. The weather forecast seems to always be sunshine in the south and rain up north. I'm surprised you guys don't get washed away into the south.

Quote: "I think that all English people wear tophats, smoke pipes have fancy mustashes, drink tea (like, all the time. Tea is the only liquid English people consume, and i would feel sorry for any man who gets between an Englishman and his tea)."


I dunno if the tea bit is continuing the joke, but it's true! I would say 80% of adults drink tea like fish. If you take my tea away from me, prepare for mortal combat. That's all I can say.

Quote: "There is a chance that by sharing this,, I may expose myself as being ignorant. But I'm sure that most of the people I know,, regardless of educational achievement, couldn't name the differences between GB, UK, and the British Isles. If I didn't have an early interest in gaming, Monty Python, Heavy Metal... I don't think I could either."


I wouldn't worry about it matey. At least you can admit it! For the record, I reckon I could name 20 state max, and would only be able to place 3 or 4 of them geographically in the US.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 10:31
On tea...this is an awesome tune.



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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 10:52
Quote: "On tea...this is an awesome tune."


lol! that's awesome.

I love my tea too, I'm very fond of earl grey.

my ancestors were British so i guess its in the blood.

I also like the story about earl grey. how he like tea so much he was pinching it, and when it came time to do a stocktake threw in cheaper herbs with it to cover up his tea lust. resulting in the tastiest tea I have found.

all this talk of tea, i must put the kettle on.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 11:05
Earl Grey is nice, my favourites would be between Chai and Rooibos. Chai has quite a nice spicy flavour to it and is even more amazing if you can find one with nutmeg and vanilla in it. Rooibos is South African tea ('Red Bush' in the supermarkets) and has a really nice smoky flavour to it and is really nice when infused with fruit like cherries or strawberries. Yes, I have a bit of a sweet tooth but Rooibos + Wild Cherry = totally awesome.

This is the best place to buy tea in my opinion, they have an online shop and export. Yes, I am so mad for tea that I don't buy from the super market, I either go to Nottingham or order online. But please, don't pity me, my tea always tastes awesome.


http://www.leerosyshop.com/index.asp

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I like bog standard Tetley, and you can call me Susanne if it isn't so.

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PG and Tetley tea, and a Nescafe a couple of times a day between the pint mugs of tea.

I also feel sorry for the Scottish people too. When London hosts the olympics, they've had it. There's going to be millions and millions of people in and around London that Scotland is going to be flipped up into the air and all the Scottish people are going to find themselves surrounded by vineyards in the south of France somewhere wondering what the hell has happened to the world. "Ya ken wot dis is?" holding a grape with a bewildered look on their faces...

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WLGfx@
how dare you, we know what fruit is.. we may not have 'em but we've seen them in films and tv and stuff

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my grandma cant live without tea. I think she is secretly British.


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Peep Show.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 18:36
Lol, actually Peep Show is a pretty good portrayal. Though we're not all as miserable, cynical and socially awkward as David Mitchell's character.

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Thanks for answering guys. I guess I'll explain how this started. Basically, I was browsing the web and came across a Yahoo Ask page where an american asked why the rest of the world spelled the words Aluminum and Color wrong. Firstly, its not wrong, its different. Secondly, YOU, american, are the minority. From then I went off in a fit rage, and ended up on YouTube watching Americans make mocking stereotypes of Brits. It also reminded me of how wound up I got about Americans calling the Queen, "the Queen of England". BRGHHHAAA! Should have been Queen of the Commonwealth realm! So, I got thinking; do they actually think this is funny or do they actually not know any better?

After speaking to a friend about it, I got mad. As a fellow Brit I expected them to pronounce Schedule as, well, correctly. And not ske-dule. Same for Yoghurt. A bit later I discovered that they also did not know the name of the island they lived on.

Anyway, most of what was said above sounds about right. I live in Scotland, consume copious amounts of tea (and coffee), and am cynical and sarcastic. Scotland, England and Wales make up the island called Great Britain. The nationality of people from there is the British, or Welsh, English or Scottish per country. The other island in the British Isles is Ireland, home to the Irish. It is made up of two countries; Northern Ireland (part of the UK with Scotland, England and Wales), as well as the Republic of Ireland.

Maybe we should do something about this for other countries? It certainly made me laugh a few times.
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I am. It's glorious.

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I think people tend not to have a well educated view of other countries, but rather a general view, you have some idea, but not a great depth. So misconceptions are easy.

However, there are people out there who are just plain stupid and I think they should never be the ones who set the example...like (prepare to rage, or laugh uncontrollably):



I do feel sorry for Americans when people make idiots of themselves. I just hope they don't see videos of our chavs trying to sound intelligent.

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This... is worse:
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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 19:53 Edited at: 14th Nov 2011 19:53
Also found this. Worth a look and a laugh XD
Quote: "The irony of reading this on the American made and designed internet (Tim Berners-Lee), on what I’m sure you have typed on an American made computer has not escaped me. (btw, how are things in your country? Perfect, I suppose… I mean, why else would you feel free and arrogant enough to criticize the U.S.?)

I can go on with further innovations that came from America to make your life easier (cars, telephones, planes, all things electrical)… but we’re soooooo stupid, right?"
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Quote: "This... is worse:"


Seen that one, it pretty much demonstrates how a number of people view the Americans, however, I know that a lot of yanks are actually more intelligent than that. I think the video you posted is actually satire more than anything.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:18 Edited at: 14th Nov 2011 20:25
My thoughts on Brit lol:

The Brits are kinda a strange people. They conquered most of the world and created thousands of colonies which some they still occupy. Lost serveral wars to various countries including Scottland which they still refuse to accept as a indepenant country. Chopped of the heads of their wife because should did not bear a son when genictaly it is the male who determines the sex of a child. Started a over hundred year long war over a different relgion. Emptyed all their jails into Austrila because they ran out of room. Got their buts kicked by the Germans twice then asked for help from a country they established and later lost because of overly taxing the people. Which caused a revolution. Im sure Ive missed a few histroical things the Brits have done/caused. My thoughts the Brits cause alot of trouble histroicaly. The idea of "follow us or we will beat you into submission" just don't seem to appealing. Ironicaly, after several years of conquering other nations has taken a toll on Brits and now the only thing they could beat is their self with out the help of forgeion nations they once occuppied.

Moral of the story:

Don't try to take over the world.

Video Above about America:

Brit populated America orginal so its your gene pool were dipping into. Read my brit over view above, might be a clue why some are still dumb. Lol sad facts that are true lol
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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:27 Edited at: 14th Nov 2011 20:29
... The rage I am now experiencing... "Isn't Europe a country?", and she's a teacher URGH

The second one seams to me to be, somewhat faked? I mean really is star wars based on fact true or false? who would say true, how many world wars have there been? 3, what?! he looked like he was old enough to have been the end of WW2.

And Seppuku Arts, I dont know if you've ever been to texas but I've had more than a few stupid questions, the one that often annoys me the most tends to be, "so is Britain a state of Europe?" - "Its a country!"

Or when they hear that I'me from Scotland, "Oh yeah, I got a few scotch relatives myself"

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Old-School, I really hope that was an ironic post

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:29
Quote: "A bit later I discovered that they also did not know the name of the island they lived on."


...is it britain?

you guys like your queens and tea and crumpets. That's all I know. oh and something about chavs and aluminuninium.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:31
There are stupid uneducated people all over the world its just a pity they are in the majority and give their fellow countrymen a bad name. I have found many Americans to be quite embarassed and apologetic about their lack of knowledge concerning the rest of the world. I think they are a proud and patriotic nation and rightly so, they have contributed greatly in shaping the modern world as we know it. Its just a shame that their perception of the British Isles (and elsewhere) is so limited, as we have shaped their world seemingly without them even knowing it. I reckon for the common man the entire world is pretty much ignorant of their neighbours achievements and contributions to each others societies which is sad because the world really is getting smaller.
The OP's original question was how others view the British Isles and I gave examples based on personal experience. I dont think its a good idea to go bashing Americans or anyone else for that matter you will find many examples of ignorance if you look for them, and that goes for all countries.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:43 Edited at: 14th Nov 2011 21:01
Quote: "The Brits are kinda a strange people. They conquered most of the world and created thousands of colonies which some they still occupy. Lost serveral wars to various countries including Scottland"

Wrong Scotland is in Britain, and in fact lost the last battle to be fought on British soil in 1749 to the English (which is also part of Britain there were many battles fought between these countries.
Quote: "Got their buts kicked by the Germans twice then asked for help from a country they established and later lost because of overly taxing the people. Which caused a revolution."

Wrong
Britain did not lose "get their butts kicked" as you say, nor did they come begging to America for help. You apparently have no idea even of your own countries history.
Quote: "Brit populated America orginal so its your gene pool were dipping into. Read my brit over view above, might be a clue why some are still dumb. Lol sad facts that are true lol"

Wrong I think you should change your forum name to something more appropriate.
See my post above

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 20:55 Edited at: 14th Nov 2011 21:09
I don't think America has a luxury of having the same number of years of history as everybody else, unless of course you decide to actually look at their origins, then many of us actually share the same history, so until US Independence, US History is still British history (and the history of all the countries who had colonies in the US), so the same Henry VIII who beheaded people for ridiculous reasons, who created his own church out of a disagreement with the pope, the same ridiculous and horrific ideas of crime and punishment. Add some of the Spanish colonies that settled in America, taking their heritage there's also the Spanish inquisition. Our history contains all of the lessons that the country has learned through centuries to get to where we are. It's easy to distance yourselves because you've developed into a different country with different values, but there's still a shared heritage. I know there's Americans who are very interested by their heritage from before the founding of America.

I don't think once you become independent that all of your previous heritage ceases to exist. I mean, Britain has a heavy Celt heritage, but also Saxon, Angle, Viking and Jute (and more), which goes back to other countries in Europe. Heck, follow the Celts and they don't originate from the British isles. We also have French as part of our heritage, I mean they invaded us in 1066, sure the plague wiped most of them out, it has had a massive impact on us as a country. Yet, it's still all a part of who we are.

Quote: "Got their buts kicked by the Germans twice then asked for help from a country they established and later lost because of overly taxing the people."


Except of course the war was won, so nobody's 'butts were kicked', except of course the losing side, England and Germany weren't the only participants prior to the Americans either. Every country who helped was an asset, I don't buy that it was the Americans who won the war, like some people like to believe. Other countries played a major role too and it wouldn't have been won without them, yes, including the Americans. It was a world war after all (both were), hence it couldn't just be won by a single country.

Quote: "Ironicaly, after several years of conquering other nations has taken a toll on Brits and now the only thing they could beat is their self with out the help of forgeion nations they once occuppied."


Because obviously the British aren't aiding the US's war on terror? They're just in the middle east for a long holiday.

Quote: "Emptyed all their jails into Austrila because they ran out of room"


Deportation was seen as another method of rehabilitation (rather that: lets shove them to another country because we have no room for them), it actually opened up opportunities for people to get a fresh start once their sentence was over, many didn't return on the ships to England and settled in Australia. Of course, no method was perfect and it was actually quite expensive - and dangerous as the process of travelling via the seas was nowhere near as safe as it is today.

Quote: "Chopped of the heads of their wife because should did not bear a son when genictaly it is the male who determines the sex of a child."


A rather deranged King, who was pretty insane. The problem with having a monarchy, although we still have a monarch, our country is very democratically run. We had the English civil war over the monarchy and Oliver Cromwell's side won. You could say without him, we wouldn't have parliament. He also led a puritan England, a religious movement that would move over to some of America's colonies.


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Quote: "Video Above about America:

Brit populated America orginal so its your gene pool were dipping into. Read my brit over view above, might be a clue why some are still dumb. Lol sad facts that are true lol"


Not facts. It's how America is often viewed and it's videos like that which contribute, however, common sense suggests that everybody has their morons, hence I said I hope Americans don't see videos of our chavs trying to be intelligent. If their view of the British came from chavs, we too would be viewed as being thickos. I know that America isn't a real life version of the film Idiocracy.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 22:42
Quote: "Lol, actually Peep Show is a pretty good portrayal. Though we're not all as miserable, cynical and socially awkward as David Mitchell's character."


Except, as we know, David plays the truly lovable character while Rob is cooler, yet ultimately undesirable. That is a true representation of Britain.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 22:49
But then David Mitchell is just awesome...and he's a PC.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2011 23:06
Quote: "But then David Mitchell is just awesome...and he's a PC."

Were those adverts advertising macs or PCs? Because I always found the PCs more attractive.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2011 00:27
Am I the only person who simply scrolls past every post Old School makes? Not one of them has ever been anything other than baseless trolling attempts.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2011 02:22 Edited at: 15th Nov 2011 02:33
@old_school - slapped for your "trolling" or horrifically warped view of history that only took place over the last 200 years.

You said that all the British do is cause trouble historically, maybe you should take a look down this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_British_inventions

And maybe you'll realise that the British gave birth to the modern world. (i.e., Modern Science, Modern Medicine, The Industrial Revelation which pioneered many of the manufacturing processes still used today, Computers, Modern Engineering).

I won't tolerate people putting down any country. As seppuku said, every country has its idiots its just America puts more of them on TV (well Britain is doing so more and more these days, Like the ruddy Jeremy Kyle show)

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Posted: 15th Nov 2011 03:48 Edited at: 15th Nov 2011 03:49
old_School made my eye twitch...

Quote: "Am I the only person who simply scrolls past every post Old School makes?"


No, I ignore most of them. He got banned a little while ago for making trouble in the FPSC boards, since then I can't take him seriously. But after BiggAdd's post I had to see what he said.

And now I'm twitching.

As for my understanding of the UK, being Canadian I had to learn a lot of stuff about you guys, so I have a basic understanding at worst... Then I had to learn about the Canadian fur trade for 3 years... That was sure fun... Learning about how horrible my country has been to Native people...



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Posted: 15th Nov 2011 05:59 Edited at: 17th Nov 2011 00:23
To answer your question, I Actually can't see the British Isles from here. However, if I google map it I can see some cool satellite pictures of various areas.

Here's almost the center of London.



What's that circular thing to the right?

Seriously though, I do like British humour. I also like British telly for the most part. Especially the spy ones MI5 and detective. My favorite detective series was "Frost." My most favorite Scifi series of all time including everything made in the states and Canada is Dr. Who.

BTW, England definitely held its own during WWII. Churchill was extraordinary. Although they (especially London) received a lot of damage, they continued to hold a stiff upper lip if I may say so. England also allowed American aircraft to be stationed there.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2011 07:55
My humblestest-humble opinion of the British Isles:

ENGLAND FTW! That's why I'm moving there. I don't know much about Ireland and associates but I intend to travel and learn once I'm settled down.

You guys have a great infrastructure, AWESOME internet connections, culture, tons of Euro-band concerts and you pay good too. The country looks after its people.

Sure I disagree with the laws a little. You guys are very much against defending yourselves and your property against criminals. I heard some guy was had up for child abuse because he (bare-handed) beat up some youngsters who tried to mug him (they had box-cutters and kitchen knives). In my opinion the kids deserved it and the guy should've been given a medal. But who am I to judge? I'm choosing to go there so I'll abide by the law while I'm there.

Anyhow, all places have their good and bad points. I just think England has far more good points than South Africa (where I live).

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Quote: "You guys have a great infrastructure, AWESOME internet connections, culture, tons of Euro-band concerts and you pay good too. The country looks after its people. "


Oh, the grass is always greener...

Quote: "You guys are very much against defending yourselves and your property against criminals."


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