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Geek Culture / The dangers of XBox Kinect

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Fallout
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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 21:40 Edited at: 11th Nov 2011 21:41
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I've never used the Kinect, but I was amazed when I stumbled upon some vids on YouTube of the carnage it causes. The Wii has always had a warning, but I don't think you can do half as much damage as with the Kinect.

It makes me think, while technology advances and allows better and better interaction, you've got to think carefully about the environment it's played in. In the promotional vids, it's always a large open lounge with everyone sitting safely away from the player, but all you have to do is check out these two vids to see this isn't reality ...

Disclaimer: I'm not posting these to laugh at other peoples'/animals' expense. Hopefully they won't be considered inappropriate! It seriously got me thinking that these really innocuous things are actually pretty dangerous. You don't kick your legs about in front of your cat or 2 year old child when they're walking about, but you DO with the Kinect.

So what is the solution? While these two no doubt didn't cause any serious injury, I dare say other people have done much worse when the camera wasn't recording.





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Benjamin
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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 21:49 Edited at: 11th Nov 2011 21:49
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After playing with the Kinect for some time I can imagine there's going to be a lot of accidents, especially with games where you're meant to swing your arms and legs (for example in one of the games in Kinect Adventures). Dance Central is so awesome though... The Wiimote just doesn't measure up to what the Kinect can do.



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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 21:58
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I wouldn't call it the "Dangers of Kinect." It's unaware and irresponsible people that cause accidents. It's not the technology's fault, it's the user.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 22:16
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Quote: "I wouldn't call it the "Dangers of Kinect." It's unaware and irresponsible people that cause accidents. It's not the technology's fault, it's the user."


Yeah, the same can be said about guns, but with guns there is a culture of safety ... safety on, keep it down range .... all that sort of thing. There's no culture with Kinect, because it's not considered dangerous. You just crack on! I totally admit it's nowhere near as dangerous as a gun, but where as with a gun you're always aware you could accidentally shoot someone, with Kinect, nobody considers that they could punch their 2 year old in the face!

I guess as the technology evolves and enough people kick their cat through a window or break their toddlers noses, it will become common knowledge to put the children and pets away before you play. Until then, I expect to see more videos on YouTube of spectator abuse!

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 22:40
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Several bars around here have a Wii.... you do the math.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 23:05 Edited at: 11th Nov 2011 23:06
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It's the unfortunate thing, we kind of do have to cater for the idiots out there without much sense. At least with a warning Microsoft can cover their butts when some idiot who just punched their little kid in the face decides to sue Microsoft because they were unaware of any potential environmental dangers as a result of using their product. That way the irresponsible parent can make himself out to be the victim and shift the responsibility from himself to Microsoft.

I could see it happening, especially if somebody gets in trouble for severely injuring a kid of their pet.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 23:24
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reminds me of the time when my family was playing the wii and some moron carelessly threw the wiimote by accident and hit me hard. it me in the eye too.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2011 23:52
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Quote: "Several bars around here have a Wii.... you do the math."

What math are we supposed to do here? I still wouldn't say the Wii or Kinect is dangerous. The owners of the bar simply shouldn't be dumb enough to allow this in the first place. Accidents are going to happen because the people are drunk.

Quote: "I guess as the technology evolves and enough people kick their cat through a window or break their toddlers noses, it will become common knowledge to put the children and pets away before you play. Until then, I expect to see more videos on YouTube of spectator abuse!"

I'm sure just about everyone already knows that accidents can happen. But just because people know, doesn't mean they will suddenly start being aware and responsible. It's the exact same that can be said with guns. It's not the gun (as ignorant people love to believe) it's the irresponsible person with the gun. Or in this case, the person playing Wii/Kinect.

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holy crap! he really booted that cat!!! it seemed ok afterwards so LOL!

I'd be more worried about the fighting games, where untrained people throw punches and kicks into the air with intensity. that will surely lead to damaged joints and potential permanent injury.

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I love animals... I love cats....

But that cat getting booted at a perfect angle and velocity... made spill my beer! Literally!!

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 05:54
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Wait people actually think the cat video is real. Lmao

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 06:12
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Quote: "Wait people actually think the cat video is real. Lmao"


It isn't??? Have I been had??

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 14:39
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It does look incredibly fake, the cat seems to turn into a doll at the moment of connection.

Although, if it is real, hats off to the bloke. I could never kick a cat that far.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 16:20 Edited at: 12th Nov 2011 16:23
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Most of the accidents involving other, living beings (writing it this way due to the cat ) i think come from the fault of the victims themselves. I mean who is so stupid to walk that near to an arm swinging person? Why would you run among the legs of... anybody? (or anything)

Let evolution do its job.

I see dangers elsewhere, like people ACTUALLY thinking, for real, that they need this type of control mechanism. I'm always against anything about 'selling the same again with a different look', not gonna make an exception with these crap.

Do people actually sit there, with their controllers in their hands, playing, while sadly wondering about the shiny distant future, where they "finally can enjoy the game"? That's what i am really interested in...

(Do anybody remember the PS2 ad about the fictional Playstaton 9 here? I immediately had the urge to buy more Sega after seeing it...)

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 16:55 Edited at: 12th Nov 2011 16:56
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WOW !!! I think I'm going to pre - order COD modern warfare 3 with PS 9

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Pfft, MW3? That's like soooo 5 days ago, now it's all about MW5.5 The End of the End.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2011 22:08
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Quote: "I wouldn't call it the "Dangers of Kinect." It's unaware and irresponsible people that cause accidents. It's not the technology's fault, it's the user."


I'm with rambo on this. Once, a working mate of mine managed to lay down a 20 meters high beech around 1 meter next to me. I got pulled of balance by the sheer impact of that thing. The guy was so shocked that he was close to burst out in tears, he though he would have killed me. But I didn't blame the chainsaw...

Something like Kinect should be used in a large living room with a certain distance from kids/bystanders. But yes, this thing will cause a lot of stupid people to get injured. As long as no cat,innocent kid or serious blessure is involved, this will be hilarious

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I have a Wii, never once have had any kind of accident. The people who have let go of the remote must be idiots.

The Kinect, in my opinion, shouldn't be any different. If you have common sense and the courtesy to sense and look out for others, then you wont smack them in the face and send them flying to the floor in a heap of screams and pain.

People who have done so are not worthy of being called human beings. They are probably in-between a chav and a rock.

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At least these people are getting some excersise.
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Quote: "If you have common sense and the courtesy to sense and look out for others, then you wont smack them in the face and send them flying to the floor in a heap of screams and pain."


Unfortunately common sense isn't common. Pretty much everything has to be spelled out for people who lack common sense. People who lack common sense are those who are likely to file lawsuits to hide their own stupidity and place the blame elsewhere.

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Quote: "People who lack common sense are those who are likely to file lawsuits to hide their own stupidity and place the blame elsewhere."


Yes like people who put hot coffee in their lap while being driven around in a car!

Or whoever the person was who used their DVD player as a table so my instruction manual specifically states that that is not it's intended purpose....

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Quote: "At least these people are getting some excersise. "


Haha! Yes, everything has its brightside

Quote: "Yes like people who put hot coffee in their lap while being driven around in a car!

Or whoever the person was who used their DVD player as a table so my instruction manual specifically states that that is not it's intended purpose....
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What about the urban legend (because I have a harddrive believing that its true) about the lady trying to dry her dog in a microwave?



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It can be amusing to spot some of the warnings you see because for them to be there or to be so specific that some idiot must have done what it is you're supposed to do.


However, I do love Brainiac's take on it. Basically they did science experiments on appliances doing things dangerous that instruction manuals DON'T warn you about. For example:



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