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Geek Culture / Wanna buy some software from TGC but i heard its now shipped by post rather than given as a download, is it true?

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PAGAN_old
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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 01:17
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Decided to buy leadwerks engine as well as the FPS creator. if i am not wrong the Fps creator is still avaliable for winter sale for 80% off making it about 20 bucks.
and the leadwerks engine is 200 bucks (btw are the updates free indefinatley, like for new versions and stuff or do i have to buy it again when leadwerks 3 comes out? )
also hows blitz- max as a language?)


Anyway, i remember hearing it in some thread a while ago that now instead of a download with a serial key, TGC actually ships like a disk with software?

because if thats the case, there is a chance i am not evven gonna recieve it

so to make it clear leadwerks and FPS creator will i get a download of it or not?


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 01:29
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You get a download AND a shipped hard copy. At least thats what it was like with my DarkBasic Bonanza.
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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 01:33 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 01:33
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I'm pretty sure JUST Dark Game Studio is shipped... don't quote me on it though.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 01:37
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Quote: "(btw are the updates free indefinatley, like for new versions and stuff or do i have to buy it again when leadwerks 3 comes out? )
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You'll have to purchase all major updates, but you'll get a discount since you own a previous version.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 02:34 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 03:07
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well it sucks that i have to purchase updates. Im still gonna buy it, and if i like it enough by the time updates come out ill buy them!

I already bought dark game studio a while ago.

So 220 bucks should cover it, $200=Leadwerks and $20= FPS creator with the winter sale discount.
the thing is i dint think i can afford to have it shipped to russia so i am limited by $222.40 in my paypal account

I will be content as long as i get a download with a working activation. Can anyone guide me in the right direction here i dont want to screw up this order

[EDIT]

ok so i am about 40 cents short in my paypal account because of the shipping price. What now? is there a way to get only the digital copy without the physical one?
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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 03:11
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That is a weird combination of products to purchase. What are you going to use FPSC for ?


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 03:34 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 03:37
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Quote: "ok so i am about 40 cents short in my paypal account because of the shipping price. What now? is there a way to get only the digital copy without the physical one?"


40 cents :S, just email me (or post it here) your Paypal email and I'll send you a dollar.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 04:02 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 08:43
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Hockeykid, If you do that for me Thanks a lot! 1 buck isnt much i know but its the trouble of doing the transfer. Ill email you ok?

honestley, i might be short anyway as the import taxes might be charged and there is a chance ill never recieve the hard copy but im gonna take that chance. Besides it would be a jerk move of TGC not to give digital downloads.

Also to answer the previous question, I never played around with FPS creator and i want to check it out. As for Leadwerks, i heard that Blitz3D was an easy to learn for beginners and seeing as i cant seem to get into anything above visual basic for the lack of understanding the language, i decided to give leadwerks a shot.

[edit] the 40 cents issue is resolved and now the worst part of the online purchases is waiting! I really hate online purchases they almost screwed up on me a few times

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well it didnt let me off the hook because apperentley my paypal account dosent allow to ship to russia because it was created in america. and that costs more money to ship to than i have enough for.

I dont even want to have anything shipped to me is there a way i can just get the electronic version? Please?


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 10:49 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 10:49
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Quote: "I dont even want to have anything shipped to me is there a way i can just get the electronic version? Please?"


Bummer, follow this link to contact TGC. See what they can do for you.
http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=contact_orders

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 12:22 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 12:26
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PayPal is beginning to irritate me. The reason i want to buy this software because its almost exactly the amount of money left in this old american account which i cant really use for anything other than to get this software is, so i want to empetey out the account and be done with it. I tried making a russian paypal account but transferring money to ittakes $10 commission because its not attached to a bank. you cant even have any money transfers if there is no card attached to it. This system is completley stupid and unneceseary forcing people to deal with Banks BS against their will.
Also this Paypal system pretty much traps money in the account rendering it useless. Software is the only thing i can spend it on because i get digital cownloads of those but if i want anything to get shipped to where i am, It cant even tho paypal cliaims to be worldwide and international.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 13:04
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Quote: "You'll have to purchase all major updates, but you'll get a discount since you own a previous version."

I bought Leadwerks version 2.4, and now I have version 2.5, which was free.
Major updates you have to pay for, but substantially less if you own a previous version (as budokaiman said).
I like the engine a lot. It is capable of designing AAA games, and it costs much less than some other engines.
Working with the sandbox is also a joy, because you don't need to recompile your level everytime you want to see the changes. The physics work instantly too in the sandbox. And, there's the easy scripting language Lua with which you can make an entire game. The cool part of the scripting is, if you have a script for a torch flame (just an example), then with a little tweak, you can apply the same script to another object that needs flames.
Of course, you can program in C++, blitzmax and several other languages if you like.
The next version (Leadwerks 3) will be a complete new engine, and I have seen some of the new features, and it's going to be awesome. Built in AI and pathfinding, realtime ocean, day/night cycle, multiple platforms (Android, iOS, OSX and Windows), etc...
Leadwerks is an electronic download.

I don't know about FPS Creator, because I had it on the DarkGame Studio DVD, but I guess it is shipped by post.

Cheers

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 13:39 Edited at: 27th Nov 2011 13:40
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Well thank but itn wont help me now because apperentley the 200 bucks in my paypal acount are COMPLETLEY FRIGGING USELESS because it wont let me spend the money unless i have a credit card which is really stupid and irritating and ruined my entire day.

First it charged me 10 bucks commission without even telling me (well that was my fault i should have known) so now, i couldnt buy FPS creator. THen it told me that i exhausted my spending limeit which is complete bull as i habent been able to spend any of the money, now it keeps me from spending money because i have no credit card, HOW WAS I ABLE TO SPEND IT BEFORE! WITHOUT ONE

anyway, $200 that i cant spend, looks like i am not getting anything. Sorry i made you waste that dollar hockeykid

this ruined my day and, i guess i can no longer purchase TGC products for now


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 14:04
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Sorry to hear that, PAGAN. But uhm, why not use Bank Transfer? That's how I did it.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 14:15
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for that i will need to start a new account at an internationally regonised bank and thats the last thing i want to do now. Banks are evil


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 15:06
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FPSC is shipped, but it also offers a downloadable version...I took up the Winter Fire Sale too, you'd be mad not to.

However, PayPal can be a pain at times, I just generally try to avoid it if I can because I've known other people to have hassle with them. I do have an account, but I don't leave any money in there.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 17:33
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i wanted to empety out my paypal on this software, My friend today agreed to help me out by assigning his debit card and bank to it and trying some stuff to get it out of there. I dont understand it worked for a while without a card and if you have money in the account why do you need a card thats just stupid


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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 19:51
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@Pagan: Chat me up whenever you have FPSC in case you have questions or want to know anything.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2011 20:05
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thanks, i will. wanted to try FPSC for a while. but my friend today who promised to help me with my paypal problems postphoned untill later this week because he told me about even more cruel nazi paypal behavior he dealt with thus being careful dealing with mine


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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 15:29 Edited at: 28th Nov 2011 15:32
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Chat me up? That's a new one on me. In England it means let's get together for a date.

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just contact TGC they are very cool and are infact humans D: they are crazily understanding and im sure will help you out. its unreal how good their customer service is.



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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 10:09
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once i figure out a way to pay for it, paypal now blocked my account. for me trying to acess it too often.


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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 13:48
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I think this thread is giving me more and more ways to justify not using PayPal, I'm fairly sure once you've somehow managed to get your money out of that account that you'll never deal with them again. From what I see, they're just nothing but hassle.

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you would be correct to assume so. I already started encouraging my friends to close their paypal accounts. As far as i know in the states, the system pretty much forces you into using a bank, like most things can only be purchased trough a bank and you need to have good credit history even to apply to some jobs and stuff. I understand that paypal could be useful to someone who lives far from a populated area like Oklahoma or montana or something. Purchasing stuff on the web would be a benefit. But forcing it onto people, not to mention forcefully limiting peoples financial freedom (of peoples personal financial resourses) because they dont wasnt to deal with a bank is just wrong.

Something like this is happening in Russia next year. They are introducing universal ID cars which serve as a debit card, mass transit ticket, health insurace, valid ID, and cant exclude the governments ability to track your position with these cards plus a bunch more features. Still they managed to make it more beneficial by putting it all in 1 package and making it simple
for everyone.

I am determined to get my Paypal to work so i can buy Leadwerks and FPS creator (i seriosly hope there is a digital version of FPS creator) and close the paypal account.


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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 19:28 Edited at: 29th Nov 2011 19:30
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Sounds like a nightmare, but I wish you the best of luck dealing with them.

Quote: "(i seriosly hope there is a digital version of FPS creator)"


There is, but they will also post it to you. Also, TGC don't work weekends, so if you buy it then, you'll have to wait until Monday until they process anything. Though money is taken out via an automated system. I ordered my FPSC on a Saturday and the money was confirmed quick, but nothing was dispatched until Monday - I got the download on that day, though not as immediately as the downloads as the model packs, probably because they send a physical copy of FPSC as well.

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