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Geek Culture / How to get traffic?

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old_School
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 19:45
Hey guys just seeking tips on how to grow my website. Currently we get tons of traffic from people but no one says longer than 30 seconds or registers/posts on my forums. I'm open to suggestions. I have several articles posted + free stuff + forums + videos + kid friendly + facebook attached so whats the problem? Please check it out http://www.uokgames.com and post some feedback/tips for me please. I'm not a website builder, i just program and do networking stuff. Currently site is using Joomla.
Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 19:50
I used to have ads on my site, and to try to get more traffic to the site I made this page:
http://www.neurofuzzydev.com/img/index.php

I think most of the traffic is probably from people on these forums who check out your website. If what you have on your website isn't interesting to a programmer/geek audience, then you're not going to get many recurring visits.

old_School
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 19:54
Well I guess I should be asking how do I get traffic to stay? I have lots of traffic just none of it stays or makes posts etc.
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 21:35
I don't mean to sound obvious, but offer something that'll make people want to stay. Are your products appealing enough and does your website A) Offer enough information about them. B) Offer enough demonstrations of them - plentiful screenshots, demos, and maybe even videos. Last time I visited your site I didn't see a lot that would make me stay.

I mentioned in your other thread to seek feedback on your products, if you're not getting a lot of people staying, I might suggest more strongly that you do, you never know, it could attract more business.

BlackFox
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 22:08
We took a look at your site, and here are a few things that jumped at us you might want to look at/consider.

First, the web package. You are using Joomla, we use an older package on our site. We like our current package because I can customize the template and modules to what we need. I know the package inside-out in my sleep. If my wife asks me "can we put this on our site or have this feature?" I know already whether it can be done or not. Make sure you know your package well. Know its limitations, and try to plan ahead for additional features or expansions. If you try to add something to your package, will it work? Or will you need to spend time switching to another package? The point is, as a business owner, it is frustrating if you hit that brick wall and have to shut down your site to make changes.

Second, your articles. While I found some of your information informative, there were some sections that were hard to follow. I mean this in no disrespect, but your articles need to be fixed and cleaned up. Spelling and grammar/sentence structure are what kills the concept that a professional is offering advice. You used an example about a Wall-Mart employee in your "Small Business and You" where you said the following:

Quote: "Using Wal-Mart as an example, most Wal-Mart workers did not go to college for four years and study electronics. It’s more likely they probably never even been inside a college classroom. However, millions of people shop at their store take the advice of a sales person who likely has no college degree and buy what he/she suggests. The sales person probably knows a few basic facts about that device but lacks the complete understanding about the device."


I could draw almost a similar parallel to your articles. While I know what your intention is, I can overlook the grammar and spelling whereas someone looking for information or advice will not and they will go elsewhere. If you want people to respect your articles and want to be there reading your information, they need to look professional. Also remember any information you reference may not apply to other people from other countries. You won't just have USA customers, but people from around the globe. Make sure you know the facts in other countries if you plan to expand on those articles.

Third, your approach might not be working for you. In other words, posting on the Geek Chat asking how to increase your traffic almost suggests to us that you are not as professional as first thought. I mean no disrespect by this, but the responses you might get to your question will come from younger people that either are still in high school/college, may not have owned a business to know the best answer, or just don't have the experience level you want to draw from. If you are relying on that, you are better to ask your teenage kids and their friends. You would never see Northern Fox Media or Explosoft (our good friend and counterpart Brian) post something like this on a forum. Both of us have been in business a long time and know where to get advice from and what to do.

Fourth, your software applications and games. You might find down the road your site becoming cluttered when your software applications and games grow over time. In our case, we decided to make separate sites for just our games. We advertise them on our site, but there is a link to redirect the customer to the game(s) own site. This allows us to expand that site for the game as well without overcrowding our main site.

I apologize again for the long novel, and hope i did not come across as rude or ignorant. My wife and I have been in business for a long time, and running a company on top of serving the military and raising 5 kids has kept the last twenty+ years for us very busy. We have had our successes, and our failures. We had two separate companies, just bought a third and have now merged all three into one. So far that was the best move on our part. Work has kept us busy, and we never had to seek advice on a forum. If you are serious about owning a business or being at it for the time you say you have, you will know what you need to do.


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old_School
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Posted: 28th Nov 2011 22:34 Edited at: 28th Nov 2011 22:36
No need to appolgize Fox, I asked here because I knew their were a few people who do know what is currently wrong with my site. As you pointed out several things I do see/agree with. I also agree thogh asking here typicaly would not provide helpful insight due to obvious reasons. I also see your point on the Wal-Mart company but Wal-Mart is pretty world wide in my defense. Howevr, the article does need some adjustments.

I had discussed the issue with grammr/articles with my business partner and suggested he review them but he's pretty bogged down with work + college. So I'm pretty much the only full time worker so I get to write all the articles + software + desgin + art etc. I see most of the problems with the web site articles, grammer, store not being up yet and various other problems. However, I'm pretty much working solo on things, kind of stinks going solo sometimes. The goal/plan was build up the forums and get some volunteers to help fix stuff. However, its looking like a "catch 22" can't get traffic to stay because articles etc need touched up and I can't fix articles my self because my grammer is terriable. So i need traffic to stay so I can pick someone to help but articles look bad so they don't stay. Crazy stuff.

Thanks for the insight fox, I'll work on what I can fixing what I can from this point. Feel free to send me any more suggestions you have fox in the future if you wish etc.
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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 01:48
Maybe you should separate your articles from your company.

If you focus on one specific thing for now on your site, like games or software, you'll have a clear set goal.
You could put articles on a personal blog (and/or a company blog) which is linked to your main company site.

I find it difficult to see your companies aims because you've tried to do too much at once.


You have an "About us" page and you've gone into quite a bit of detail (which isn't a bad thing), but you need to shorten it down a slice for those who don't want to read an essay to get to know your company.
You need two short lines summarising what you are all about, then perhaps link to the more detailed description.

You also need a flagship product/service. Come up with an amazing idea that you think will be profitable, then focus all your attention into that. I don't know of any company that started off by making a million things at once and then becoming successful.
You need something to make people sit up and pay attention.

tiresius
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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 04:00
Who is your audience? I figured the tag "Buy / Sell / Trade Software & Games" to mean you want to be like a GameStop ??

So be clear what demographic your company and website are serving. I also thought it might be for fellow game developers, but as a DBPro user and a long-time bedroom programmer I found your "We Don't Make Cookies" post to be disheartening and unnecessarily negative.

Open up your forums to non-registered users, make it view only. People generally don't sign up for stuff unless they are truly interested in it.

Correct the spelling and grammatical mistakes... sometimes you use the wrong word. It doesn't look very good. Maybe people went to the site, saw the errors, and skipped out? Are you sure these aren't spiders/bots on the internet checking your site?

I hope this helped.


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old_School
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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 06:14
Well the audience im shooting for is programers and software buyers. Basilcy I want to bring the creators and buyers togethier. Kinda have to agree as well on "we Don;t Make Cookies". Ive had a lot of facebook mail from people just annoying me about dumb questions etc. I think it did give the wrong impression though. As for correcting spelling/grammer, you asking the wrong guy. My grammer/spelling is not terriable on purpose. i honestly suck at grammer/spelling so bad spellchecker can't fix it sometimes, so the articles suffer. Which ironicly is pretty sad because I use to be a proffesional writter writing for a company based out of Flordia writting articles/papers. Those wondering I did not get fired due to poor grammre lol I quite that job because it was boring and too time consuming for a "part time job". The upside to working their was a editor who could make magic/correct my terriable writting lol So i guess if someone wants to voluteer on correcting my sites grammer problems, I'm all ears and more then willing to talk lol As for spiders, nah Brandyn and the host have a really nice tool to help us monitor traffic so we can tell the difference between spiders and people. 3/4 of the hits were spiders though. We had a grand total of 5k hits in which case 3/4 was spiders. Once filtered it was roughly 290 hits from real people this month as of last week and the sites only been up 2 weeks I think.
Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 07:10
Quote: "Don;t"
Quote: "you asking the wrong guy"
Quote: "grammer"
Quote: "terriable "
Quote: "grammer"
Quote: "ironicly "
Quote: "proffesional "
Quote: "writter "
Quote: "writting"
Quote: "grammre "
Quote: "quite "
Quote: "terriable "
Quote: "voluteer "
Quote: "grammer"
Quote: " more then willing"

there's just so many spelling errors and awkward phrases in what you're writing that it's tempting to stop reading halfway through. If you realize that grammar, spelling and sentence structure is hurting your business, you should probably get a book on grammar OR just try to edit everything you type (tedious but it works).

Maybe try reading?

tiresius
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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 18:22
Neuro, you missed some! But it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

A blogger with grammar/spelling issues is like a fat ballet dancer. Sure, you can keep doing it because you like it, but will people want to see it? There is much need for improvement.

I don't want to discourage you but you should have a close friend who writes to correct your articles. The Editor you worked with in that temp job did not do you any favors by correcting it for you.

When you say "software buyers" are you talking about portals like Steam or BigFishGames or are you saying the users who purchase software?


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Posted: 29th Nov 2011 18:57 Edited at: 30th Nov 2011 18:13
Joomla is wonderful, but you need to cut all the crap out.

Go through every part of your template and remove anything that doesn't need to be there. Adjustable fonts? Nobody uses that, their browser takes care of it for them.

The theme you're using is also pretty fugly.

Seperate your blog and your products. The first thing people should see is what they can buy.

As for your blog, stop releasing posts in clumps. You need to blog daily or weekly. You need to post at the same time every day. People with RSS readers will come to expect your postings at a certain date and time.

Stop blogging what everyone else is blogging. Write about yourself, rather than "Piracy and how it affects businesses".

Here's some better titles, feel free to use: "Piracy and why I think you should go blarg yourself", "Why I think COD is for lamers", "Why DNF was totally worth the wait."

If you're doing a business blog, that's great and all, but don't expect good retention or readership.

Get a real favicon.

I've got more, but I'm out of time Nobody cares about your grammar/spelling as long as it's legible and interesting. That means, run it through a standard spellchecker and do the standard first-draft, second-draft, final-draft revisioning.


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