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Slayer267
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I have discovered a place where professional companys get their CD cases!

http://www.polylinecorp.com/polylinecorp.asp

I think that's where they get them. Anyways, I think this could be useful for everyone!

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You know you can just get those things from amazon or ebay, right?

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Me no likeie ebay! >.<

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lol, fair enough.

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why would I want a cd case...

why would I want a cd at all?


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put your game on it and sell it! >.<

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why would i sell it on a CD...


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Because some people are idiots and don't know how do download something! Cough*The*Cough*Kids*Cough*at my*Coughcoughcough*School*Cough

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most kids needs help from parents to buy online, yes

however, I find it unnecessary to print games on CDs, when putting it up for online purchase just seems a lot simpler and cheaper


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Thats why I charge more for CD Versions

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Ok, cool... But why?

I mean, if you actually get your game to the point where you sell retail copies you probably won't need help finding the supplies to do so.

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Quote: "Thats why I charge more for CD Versions"



There is no way I would buy that game on a CD verson, ever.

I would buy a cd verson if it were CHEAPER to buy.


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See I understand that. But the extra price pays for the CDs and the time it takes to burn them! You get like 3 CDs.
-one for campaign
-one for multiplayer
-and one for zombies!
Thats 3 CDs!

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Quote: "-one for campaign
-one for multiplayer
-and one for zombies!
Thats 3 CDs!"


why.. would i want individual CDs for MP and SP?

that just makes it messy.... just burn it out on a single CD


you see, me getting MORE CDs to fill up my overfull bookshelf isnt a REWARD for me


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Not enough space.

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Quote: "See I understand that. But the extra price pays for the CDs and the time it takes to burn them! You get like 3 CDs.
-one for campaign
-one for multiplayer
-and one for zombies!
Thats 3 CDs!"


That's 3 more chunks of plastic I have laying around. Don't get me wrong, I usually love having a physical copy of my games/programs. But putting an indie game on a disc just doesn't make sense to me.



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Awesome, I forgot to state that the link was to the wip in the first post. Thanks a ton!!! [href] http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=184869&b=8[/href]

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umm... What?

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Quote: " But putting an indie game on a disc just doesn't make sense to me."


kind of that...

I buy indie games because theyre easy to pick up, easy to buy, and easy to start playing

AND theyre cheaper x) and they usually have a cool twist


if i wanted a piece of plastic i would buy an AAA titel... though i would probably check with steam first off.


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But still...

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Posted: 6th Jan 2012 04:24
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Quote: "Not enough space."

Get DVDs.....

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Thats what I use.

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Yeah...DVD's are much cheaper per GB I mean say one CD costs seven pence thats around seven hundred and fifty megabytes and well for about fifteen pence around double the cost you get more than four times the cost... and who on earth in a developed country does not have a DVD disk drive anyway

plus you can get printable DVD's for the same cheap price in bulk... and SLIM DVD CASES are cheaper...

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True

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This thread is awful lol

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Posted: 6th Jan 2012 08:13 Edited at: 6th Jan 2012 08:15
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I wouldnt say that i think hes got a good point!!! What if you need a CD case so that you can open a door with?? How about if you need one to store your toenails in? He never specifically stated in the original post that is was meant for if you needed to store a CD. Storing a CD just is one of many the things a CD case is capable of doing.

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My bad on the earlier post guys, That was suppose to go to inagacremo, no IDEA how it got here

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DB dude79, I LOVE YOUR SIG


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Even a home burnt CD is much more longlasting than a hard drive.

And i believe there do exist indie games that deserve to be with you for that much time, just like any other games.

All this downloading crap has been forced on you guys, can't you see? It takes the soul away from the games, and slowly makes you be used to the fact that you don't really need to posess anything. Be happy with your bits fooling around in the virtual space, your virtual games, your virtual money. The next step is your virtual life.

Some nerd already has a stupid joke about the matrix or whatever... man, just don't. It's already late for you if wanna joke about this.

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Quote: "The next step is your virtual life."


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Quote: "All this downloading crap has been forced on you guys, can't you see? "


not at all: I LOVE CDs, HOWEVER they ARE annoying aswell, and definitly are a waste of space. The only reasn i really want a CD is because the CASE that comes with is pretty


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On the contrary, the download approach is probably a lot more favourable for indie games. Whilst yes, it is definitely nice to have a CD version of a game because it gives you the feel of ownership more so over a digital copy. It's also why I have music CD's instead of buying them off of iTunes.

But lets face it, how many people are going to buy an indie game if they have to wait a few days for it to arrive in the post and for it to take up space on their shelf? I've bought indie games on the fly because they're cheap and I can stick them on my hard drive pretty quickly. So of these indie games are amazing, some I've bought to try but never played again. The price of indie games and the ease of access means I'm spending money to see whether or not I like the game.

However, I don't think there's anything wrong with offering the choice. Digital purchase or a CD purchase, if somebody wants a CD copy then let them have it.

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I like to buy my from stores with CDs and cases and all that crap. I don't know, I just like.

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We're still not getting around the point that it's unlikely anyone will buy it in the first place...

I mean...how easily are you gunna sell a hoembrew game when the customer can go out and buy a pre-owned one for a fiver?

This is why Indie games are two things; cheap, and easy. Cheap because they work on the principle of micro-transactions, where one person pays £2, and thinks it to be a very small amount of money. So then they recommend it and it spreads across to 200 people. That's £400 for no effort. Indie games are all about word of mouth.

They have to be easy because that person's just paid for it, and they want it running now. It has to be a small filesize, install quick, and run easily on their system.

FPSC does none of the above. You can buy Triple-A games that have smaller filesizes than an FPSC install.

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I prefer downloads these days... hate these silly DVD casss with EA selling broken disks and no refund. polisy and their games just dont work because of having condoms around them (heres looking at you EA for making silly DVDs that we cannot use on USB drives bleh)

and I miss the huge boxes that smelt funny and were nice and pretty to look at and great to spot from the shelf... but heck thats just me...

But downloading and installing and playing is great fun... it usually takes two hours to go out and buy a game finish what your doing and come back and wait another while (sometimes half an hour or more) to install the game... if your smart you would download it before going to bed and install it when you wake up and play it after breakfast... there no blizzards snow slippery ice heavy rain cold flu shivers stupid people walkimg blind and aimlessy because theyre trying to walk and talk on their ancient phones... just bed... breakfast...game

ahh you get my point ahahahahahhaahaha but if anybody wants a place to upload a game for distribution theyre welcome to get in touch

If not... well say hi anyway

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Quote: "FPSC does none of the above. You can buy Triple-A games that have smaller filesizes than an FPSC install."


True this. Obviously with hard work it MAY do them, but I personally always treated FPSC as a "practice" engine to get you started in the game creation vibe, then as you think you have enough experience, you move onto a commercial quality engine. FPSC is a very good and simple to use engine, but whatever is simple to use, cannot make a very good product (most of the time) this is just my honest opinion about FPSC. I don't care if you disagree, but I believe that this is what FPSC is.

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I'm sorry but i'm going to have to agree with you because FPSC does not make a good quality. But who says you can't modify FPSC's source code? Make it use more cores! Use more Power! Think about it! It would be amazing if FPSC had all of its glitches fixed! I am currently using a modded version of FPSC for my game and I honestly don't care how a game's shaders are or what ever! I care if it runs smoothly and looks good. I also care if it is Fun overall. If I play a game that isn't fun then whats the point? Then the game sucks!

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Quote: "But who says you can't modify FPSC's source code? Make it use more cores! Use more Power!"


Afaik DBP doesn't support those functions.

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Your audience does, though

If you create a generic FPS, your only redeeming feature is a gameplay gimmick and shaders.

If you have neither, then it'll appeal to the intended demographic as well as a roll of wallpaper.

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I'm selling my game, it comes on 400 Floppy Discs. Shipping costs £159.99 and the game is £1, who wants to place an order?
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Wooo back the train up guys. A retailer will only buy from a distributor. A distributer will only buy from a publisher. Publisher buys only from the dev. If you package your own games, that’s great you can sell them on EBay, Amazon and other places but don’t expect a retailer to buy from you. They must go through proper channels. Also note, profit from retailer is penny's on the dollar.

On the flip side getting your name out there in a store is huge. When you get your product stocked on a retailers shelf, your advertising your product basically for free and in some cases for profit. People will be able to visit their local store and see your product. Unlike cyber space were its lost in outer space surrounded by billions of other people selling software.

On the flip side to this, a publisher will market your product for you and bring in sales for you as well but he charges/takes a cut. But a publisher will sell more copies then you. Pound for pound a publisher on average will account for about 30-40% of your sales, retail about 25-30% and you will do about 5-10% sales. The rest likely will be pirated. I don't think a lot of you have done your home work when it comes to sells.

Selling your product is extremely hard to accomplish even if its a great product. With out a good publisher, good contract and honest lawyer to help you read through the crappy contracts, you will get screwed. Big companies like Blizzard have established their selves in the market and retailers are willing to work with them because they know it will sell. You guys are Indie. You’re nobody to Wal-Mart or Staples. You have to go through a publisher if you want to make sales or get extremely lucky.

On the flip side of all of this conversation. The point of making games is so people will play it and enjoy it. If no one is buying your games/software, then no one is enjoying it. Best solution, talk to a publisher if you want to sell your product. They know what will make money/sell and they will invest in your product to make it sell. bottom line, get your product published and do some research on how to sell your product before you try to sell it.
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I'll take 2 copies thanks.

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If it's a big file and a bad connection, the mail system may likely be faster

Therefore, I elect we use floppy. and ban magents.
Who's with me,
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This is true, it takes 2 days to download and update Final Fantasy XI on my PC...with a disk it'd just take 1 day to update, like on my XBox. So when quitting that game, it'd take a pretty big incentive for me to pick it up again, especially as I've deleted it on both.

But this is why I said if you want to, give them a choice. If you like the idea of distributing via CD/DVD then leave an option on your website. Yes, it does seem ridiculous, but I guess some folk are sentimental like that.

I mean why have Strawberry Icecream OR Chocolate? Why not have BOTH?*



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Bahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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Quote: "I'm sorry but i'm going to have to agree with you because FPSC does not make a good quality. But who says you can't modify FPSC's source code? Make it use more cores! Use more Power! Think about it! It would be amazing if FPSC had all of its glitches fixed! I am currently using a modded version of FPSC for my game and I honestly don't care how a game's shaders are or what ever! I care if it runs smoothly and looks good. I also care if it is Fun overall. If I play a game that isn't fun then whats the point? Then the game sucks!
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Yes, that'll do the job.



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Quote: "Storing a CD just is one of many the things a CD case is capable of doing.
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yeah, actually now you mention it... I used up all my cd cases years ago playing around with scratch holograms.



fresh cd cases are the best for that.


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