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Slayer267
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I took alot of the criticism from you guys and make this newer Operation Defuse Trailer! Hope you enjoy it and C&C is welcome as always!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHPeglKXoMc

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 19:23 Edited at: 16th Jan 2012 19:25
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At 41 seconds you have a bridge that connects the two buildings and telephone wires going through the buildings, wth. Honestly do you even look at what entities you are placing down on your maps? You have the most random and unrealistic assortment I think I've ever seen. To be honest you really do have so much potential to make something good but you horribly rush what you are doing. Slow down, pay attention to what you are placing in your maps.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 19:27 Edited at: 16th Jan 2012 19:27
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Yes I pay attention to the stuff I put down and this is not rushed. It was actually worked hard on it -.- I put the bridge because it would look cool

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 19:32
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Pros:
Guns
lighting

Cons:
Bridge connecting to buildings
Wire connecting to the buildings windows
To much crap on ground needs less
Saw enymys get stuck because of the to much crap

You really need to use common since on it... Go find videos of actuall places are under war and look at the examples and get inspired.

start by looking at these pics http://www.google.com/search?q=street+after+war&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Im0UT4aTE62nsALM34GDBA&biw=1680&bih=937&sei=JG0UT8mXAciQsQKovPDkAw

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Slayer267
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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 19:34
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Oh, so you want more crap on the ground.

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No he just said too much crap. You're obviously not looking at the war pictures just linked if you think there needs to be more random crap. Aside from the pictures where buildings have collapsed, there isn't a retarded amount of rubble on the ground.

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I did look at the pictures! 3/4 of them are not color! and like terrible quality or too small!

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1. The health info is showing
2. Test game info is showing as well
3. The cursor is also being recorded.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 20:21
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Heres some great examples for you

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/images/publications/reports/2009/Gaza-49028.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/191/a/8/City_After_War_by_D_signeeR.jpg

http://www.crowngallery.be/images/basilico/91A6-577C.JPG

http://englishrussia.com/images/after_civil_war_in_kyrgystan/1.jpg

http://www.awesomestories.com/images/user/637c49eec3.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w5zmQN20EOc/ReVdl6-halI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/KhUPQxWx-0Y/s400/avenida.jpg

Thats is what real war looks like!Seriously if you want our opinions on your work then be more open minded and listen to us! Also slow down on your posting you have way to many!

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 20:25
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So you're telling me I bought the london pack for no good reason at all...

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Thanks for doing that TheComet

No slayer that is a great pack edit the textures a bit and cut down on the entites get rid of the wires that are on the buildings. The london pack is perfect for this you need to get the apocolypse pack and do a mix but not over do it.

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We need a large rubble pack, or a parts of a house pack -.-

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Really slayer? 2 model packs right here full of that stuff!

http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2243

http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2262

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or learn to make your own media. I'm sorry, but nothing you make will ever look professional if you use model packs. Frankly, everything about the way you approach game making screams "I can't be bothered to put any effort in!". You use FPS creator, an engine which requires no work to make a game in, you're using only assets that other people have made, so you'll end up with a miss-matched art style that you have no control over.

What is there in this game that you've actually even made? Learn to make games properly, ok. FPSC is fine for beginners but if you're in the situation that you're making trailers and taking a project seriously then you either need to learn to program or learn a more in-depth engine.

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I agree with blobby in my opinion fpsc is more for a hobby like I use it just as a hobby. If you really want to get serious use unity 3d ot Unreal both are free to download Unreals liscence is cheaper ( I read somewhere you can pay $99 and sell your game and your games profits would be split 50/50 with the other people) Not sure if this is true... I think Unreal is one of the stronger engines.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 22:09 Edited at: 16th Jan 2012 22:10
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@RedneckRambo, Blobby 101 - Criticism is fine, but I would ask you guys tone it down with the "tough love". You all have every right to comment, but I would ask that you be tactful in the way in which you express your opinions.

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Yeah, ok - Sorry BiggAdd, and Slayer! I don't want to offend you, but I still stand by my points, just not in such a harsh way

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Quote: "I don't want to offend you, but I still stand by my points, just not in such a harsh way "


I don't want to ever stop you expressing your opinion, just got to watch how they are expressed.
I'm pretty sure you didn't intend to offend, but you can see how it could be misconstrued as offensive.

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What's wrong with bridges connected to buildings? I've seen way less realistic things in games!

It looks awesome, but also looks like a generic fps xD

music intro is awesome (sept the mouse & health), but the music and sounds later... I don't follow them. They aren't in-game noises right? It's just disorienting.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2012 23:49 Edited at: 16th Jan 2012 23:50
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Quote: "What's wrong with bridges connected to buildings? I've seen way less realistic things in games!"

True, but that just means that those other games should have been fixed/changed.

"So hold your head up high and know. It's not the end of the road"

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I think the main problem with the bridge is the fact that it doesn't really connect to anything, there isn't any real way for someone to get from the building on to the bridge

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Quote: "RedneckRambo, Blobby 101 - Criticism is fine, but I would ask you guys tone it down with the "tough love". You all have every right to comment, but I would ask that you be tactful in the way in which you express your opinions."

I'm not a nice person. With that said I don't think I said anything even moderately rude. We gave him advice and he appeared to not listen, I have no problem being rude after that. He asked for criticism, I gave him some and even told him he has great potential. I'm sorry but I'm not going to censor all of my thoughts with the small chance of offending someone. And I mean no disrespect in any way to you either. I grew up on tough love and never found offense in any way. If people are going to be overly sensitive about everything I really don't see it as my problem.

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Nice work Slayer...

Crit~
Everything on the ground has a black outline... probably better without it... or a smaller border...
Kinda too dark for my liking... makes it hard to spot enemies and I dislike that... sorry to anyone that thinks a what... I am not a hard core fps player...

Con-crit~
Its nicely done and environment layout spacing does not feel too small nor too big... nice balance...
Nice splash of buses... you clearly hate buses as much as I do ahahahhahahahhaha
Umm love how you got the nozzle flash working...

Hope this helped...

But yeah try exporting your levels into DBPro and see how much more you can put into it

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Quote: "I'm not a nice person. With that said I don't think I said anything even moderately rude. We gave him advice and he appeared to not listen, I have no problem being rude after that. He asked for criticism, I gave him some and even told him he has great potential. I'm sorry but I'm not going to censor all of my thoughts with the small chance of offending someone. And I mean no disrespect in any way to you either. I grew up on tough love and never found offense in any way. If people are going to be overly sensitive about everything I really don't see it as my problem."


I'm not having a massive go, and I'm not asking you to censor your thoughts. I was just suggesting you mind the way you express your crit and opinions on his work.
It was only minor things like "retarded amount of rubble" etc.

As I said, wasn't having a massive go, no official warnings or anything. More like a pre-emptive strike before things start to flare up. He can choose to ignore you (but more fool him for doing so), but breaking tact because he does could cause problems.

I know where you are coming from though, I was just saying don't rise to it!

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See what Mr.Valentine said? Thats what I want! I want to also hear what you like about!

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Quote: "See what Mr.Valentine said? Thats what I want! I want to also hear what you like about!"


You can't disregard someone's comments just because they haven't told you what they like about your game.
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Yeah I can

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Ok, You shouldn't disregard someone's comments just because they haven't told you what they like about your game.

I agree with what everyone else said. That bridge has no business being there, and that all the HUD and debug info should be hidden.



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Forum AUP 4.2"

I'm sorry but that's the funniest thing I've ever read on this forum. If you only want people to praise your work then don't put on the internet, show it to your family. Put it on the internet if you want honesty and, in this forum's case, true and proper suggestions.

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Quote: "Yeah I can

Forum AUP 4.2"


That's not exactly what that section means. You took a piece of the context and gave it your own meaning.

I'm going to temp lock this thread for now. I can see this getting out of hand.

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