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Geek Culture / Alan Wake launching on Steam tomorrow Feb. 16th

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Posted: 15th Feb 2012 23:13
I had been waiting on this game since before Vista was released, when it was supposed to usher in directx10. So when it finally got released as a XBox 360 exclusive, I was gutted (don't have a 360).

It looks like the PC petitioning paid off, as it's finally getting a PC release. Hopefully all those PC petitioners will actually BUY the game - Remedy is a small studio and a lot of love went into this game.

Can't wait to turn out all the lights, put on the headphones, and enjoy this future cult classic!

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 07:56
Meh... I was interested at the time but will never buy the game anymore ... not worth the trust anymore... unless its been totally revamped and updated... even so might just give it a few mins or seconds on youtube... who cares anymore... they betrayed loyal PC users by telling us its all for the pc then stab us in the dark (pun intended) and expect us pressumably to pay fifty pounds anticipatedly for it when its probably a few pounds in the second hand shops by now...

I repeat MEH.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 10:32
Mr Valentine, the only person missing out is you.

I thought Alan Wake was an amazing experience. I enjoyed every moment of it.

PC users are the worst kind of gamers, imo, they pirate more than they buy. I wouldn't blame any company for not developing for PC.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 11:01 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 11:03
PC users are the best kind of gamers imo, and not because of moral grounds but because the communities are multitudes better.. I basicly dont play console anymore because, well, it cant do jack-shoes compared to my PC.

Iam very uncertain wether to get this one or not >__<'

edit: might want to add: If it were just as easy to pirate on the console, you really think people would pirate less? as it is right now you have to chip the consoles, which might end up in them BREAKING, which is a lot of money gone to waste (well theyre cheaper now)
its just overall a lot more of a hassle to pirate for the console than the PC


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 11:13
Quote: "edit: might want to add: If it were just as easy to pirate on the console, you really think people would pirate less? as it is right now you have to chip the consoles, which might end up in them BREAKING, which is a lot of money gone to waste (well theyre cheaper now)
its just overall a lot more of a hassle to pirate for the console than the PC
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I think thraxas's point is just that there's less piracy overall, not that console users are nicer.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 11:46
Quote: "If it were just as easy to pirate on the console, you really think people would pirate less?"


No, I agree, if it were EASIER to pirate on consoles more people would do it.

As it stands though PC gamers will pirate anything and it takes no effort whatsoever. There are a multitude of reasons given as to why they pirate, and even when a company 'ticks all the boxes' they STILL pirate.

Personally I find all online gaming communities to be horrible. Whether they be PC or console gamers.

Quote: "its just overall a lot more of a hassle to pirate for the console than the PC"


Consoles in general are a lot less hassle than PCs. You buy the game, you KNOW it's going to work on your console. With some PC games these days it's a gamble, and depending on the developer you might have a game which will never play on your system because they can't fix the problem. (I'm talking from experience here)

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 12:01
Thrax... elaborate on missing out?

As I see it... no time wasted on an overdue game...

And I dissagree about the pirating... people pirate console games just as much if not more... and all consoles today are hacked so... no difference there... why would anyone hack a wii is beyond me anyway lol

and console games offer little if no fun at all... imo

aside from good old pas and pstwo... and the odd one or two games on newer consoles... I have not found many games to excite me in recent years and for that reason there is no reason to buy a pointless games console...

So nope... not missing out on much... eitherway I hope to make my own games soon ... I wonder if its illegal to pirate my own game?

And No I never pirate games... dknt see the point... same goes for software... I have spent thousands of pounds in software which I tried demos of before comitting... pirating for no reason fools are just fools...

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 12:11
Quote: "ith some PC games these days it's a gamble, and depending on the developer you might have a game which will never play on your system because they can't fix the problem. (I'm talking from experience here)"

Ill say here, i bought Prejudice 9(right?) on steam, turns out i cant download the DLCs since my account still has child account on it, and i need to go onto my XBOX to change it

why would i need an XBOX to change something to play something on PC? thats insanely stupid (were talking games for windows live here)


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 12:15
It is a shame people pirate games on the PC, in a way it's ruining PC gaming for the rest of us, especially with companies passing off ridiculous DRM's and trying to pass ridiculous laws that just harm people who are innocent, whilst pirates will continue to pirate.

PC games tend to be pretty cheap too and services like Steam do all kinds of deals, services like OnLive make it easier to test games many games have demos to help you decide if you want to purchase. As for piracy out of protest, have pirates ever heard of a boycott? I think Blackbeard would be shocked by pirates of today. Where's the swashbuckling adventures? And what about the buried treasure? What about attacking Navy ships on your mighty vessel? (would be great if they did, because the Navy could easily blast a pirate ship out of the water)


Anyway, I never played Alan Wake, if it really is 50 squid then I doubt I'd pick up a PC version (I don't pay that kind of money unless I really, really want the game, otherwise I just usually wait for it to go down in price), I probably wouldn't anyway, my laptop is running a measly Intel GMA, though I do plan on getting a gaming rig eventually. If Alan Wake really is that good I might keep my eye out for a cheap 360 version.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 12:24 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 12:24
Quote: ". people pirate console games just as much if not more."


I'd love to see where you got that idea from. All the information I have ever read shows that it's nowhere near as bad on consoles as it is on PC. And clearly the game developers think so too, which is why they hold back PC releases so they can maximise their profits on the console release.

Quote: "and console games offer little if no fun at all... imo"


What exactly is a console game? Most games are multiplatform releases. The PC being one of those platforms.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 12:42
Only games i ever play on colsoles are games like DARK SOULS (even though i would have rather played it on PC) and ZELDA
i never ever play a shooter on console, EVER...
Car games and most RPG games (that are just hacky slashy) thats all i ever play on console (Final fantasy included)

anything that require precision is played on the PC


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 17:34 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 17:42
Quote: "I repeat MEH."


Why's that? Every review indicates this is a good game, but I guess it's not for everyone.

Yeah it's too bad I had to wait. But there is updated graphics and controls for the PC version, not a sloppy port. I intend to send a clear message to Remedy by purchasing the game.

Two hours to go in the US until it's on Steam.

EDIT: Pretty much ALL hardcore gaming sites are filled with petty, spoiled children. I'd rather not get caught up in the idea that game companies "owe me" and just enjoy the game.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 18:02
The piracy excuses are just as lame as people saying Alan Wake sucks. It has been proven many times that more people are able to pirate, more will eventually buy it for the multiplayer or some other bonus(maybe feeling bad for a good game).


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 18:13
Quote: "It has been proven many times that more people are able to pirate, more will eventually buy it for the multiplayer or some other bonus(maybe feeling bad for a good game).
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well it varies from person to person, there are those extreme douches who pirates EVERYTHING and never buys it, considering there are free servers for most MMOs for example, and an offline community for say cod and CS is very usual (players putting up servers through hamachi etc)
those people disgust me

I can understand people pirating to try it out, and i personally just want to slap every developer who doesnt make a proper demo across the face with a brick.


But essentially, you are right: the majority of gamers do buy it either at launch, or later on, most pirates dont pirate everything and never buys anything


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 20:30
That might be true but more the developers try to put off the pirates the worse it gets for other players,Ubisoft screwed that up already.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 20:35 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 20:39
Quote: "That might be true but more the developers try to put off the pirates the worse it gets for other players,Ubisoft screwed that up already."

about that: every developer who puts a DRM (other than one time log on or such) i also want to slap in the face with a brick..

You simply do not punish the buying customer, when you want to stop piracy, you will notice it will backfire.

edit: and everyone who think GFWL is a good thing to have in the game! xD


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 20:37
Yep EA too they need giant boulders hurled at them... trebuchet anybody?

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 21:49
Quote: "You simply do not punish the buying customer, when you want to stop piracy, you will notice it will backfire."


I think this is true. I believe if anything, it contributes to more piracy. If people want a game without the limitations of having to be online, etc, they would just download a crack or pirate it. It's not like the DRM will not ever be circumvented. Hackers like the challenge. I would love to know how much money goes into the creation of DRM and other 'Anti-pirating' methods and be able to compare it with the amount of money lost from customers that don't want to deal with it and either don't play the game or simply pirated it.


Anyways, back on topic: I thought Alan Wake was pretty phenomenal. There were several things I would have changed and I agree with Yahtzee on some things, but overall, I enjoyed the experience. It was spooky and had a great sense of immersion for me. I thought the whole flashlight setup was stellar.
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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:07 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 22:08
Quote: "and console games offer little if no fun at all... imo"


That makes no sense at all, as every conceivable genre of game is on both PC and console. If there was a specific category of game that ONLY appeared on PC and not on console, then we'll talk. Otherwise, your statement comes off as plain PC-fanboyism or plain cheapness (i.e. not wanting to spend money on a console).

Even point-and-click adventure games have appeared on console. There's an XBLA game (the name escapes me) that I have, plus Dreamfall, of which I originally completed on the original Xbox.

I'm not a fanboy, and I tend to get all the systems (just picked up a Vita yesterday). I just don't understand fanboyism, and I grew up playing PC games and never bought a console until after I got my first job after high school! By all intents and purposes I would be a prime candidate of a PC fanboy!


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:08
Well I see that it's launched on sale at a price of $30(US), so I imagine it's pretty cheap in GBP also.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:09
Oh yah, and about the OP, I loved Alan Wake. I have it on 360 and it was worth every penny. It's even more enjoyable if you're a fan of Twin Peaks


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:29 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 22:31
For me consoles went downhill after PS1... the games began to take on repeat mode and lacked originality....

No I am not biased towards PC I started on consoles... assuming I am is ludacris >.<

But cheap¿

My phone costs more than a console... thats just downright rude...

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Glad we both like DREAMFALL which mind you I was playing just a few hours ago lol

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Quote: "My phone costs more than a console... thats just downright rude...
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but then the consoles are 6 years old...
discluding handheld ones


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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:45
PS3 still sells for half the price of my phone and new games well we all know how much Sony is making on the disks... anyway I am bored of the pc console conversation someone get back to the game... any highlights to mention?

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 22:47 Edited at: 16th Feb 2012 22:52
Quote: "For me consoles went downhill after PS1... the games began to take on repeat mode and lacked originality...."


I for one am a PC fanboy (I love me some RTS and city management games) but I still think the console is better for tons of games. Shadow of the Colossus, Mario, Katamari Damacy, Fight Night, etc just play better on a console controller. Not to mention the Wii's great interface and the greater potential for multplayer with friends in the same room on consoles.

I see what you are saying about originality, but I think, standing on the fence and looking down at both sides, the same could be said about the PC. Mostly the same games are coming out for both.
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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 23:38
X360 joypad on pc job done haha

back to the game someone tell me about it I got so bored waiting back when they announced it I forgot everything aside the name about it and some vague images...

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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 23:51
Kind of a Stephen King book but in game form. if I remember correctly, I think the first line in the game is either about Stephen King or is a quote from him.
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Posted: 16th Feb 2012 23:51
I haven't played the game myself but I've heard it's really good. May look into it at some point in the future if it gets a decent PC port.

On the subject of piracy, it makes far more sense that it's easier to pirate games on a PC. Why? Because most of the time all you have to do is download the game and installed it, assuming it's cracked/patched. On a console you have to either have a mod chip or take advantage of a flaw in the firmware, which usually eventually gets updated anyway.

As for whether I enjoy playing more on consoles or on a PC, I'm not sure. I know that most PS3/360 games that I've played feel very much the same, with the "photorealistic" graphics and cinematic sequences. But looking back at a better era like that of the N64/PS, I've had a lot of fun playing on consoles, possibly more than I've had playing at a PC. Partially because it's more comfortable to sit on a bean bag on the floor, or on my bed, but probably also because there's no hassle of trying to install something, realising that there are compatibility issues, or having to tweak the settings to get it to run smoothly.

Quote: "My phone costs more than a console... thats just downright rude..."


It's not really anyone's fault if you feel you have to have an expensive phone.



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Posted: 17th Feb 2012 01:18
I rented AW from Blockbuster and played through it in about six hours. It is an OK game, but has some annoying (to me) issues. They developed all this gorgeous scenery for the game and in many places you can't stop to look around without getting killed. I hate that as I like looking at every detail as I play. Silent Hill 5 had the same issue in that you were constantly trying to stay ahead of monsters that just respawn after you kill them and you have to keep moving so you don't run out of ammo. It is an OK game, but could have been so much more.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2012 06:22
On the piracy debate, there has to be a balance in the use of DRM. Too much, aka the Ubisoft debacle, actually encourages piracy(Honestly, I would buy the game then download a cracked version so I didn't have to be online the whole time). On the other hand, too little DRM makes the game more appealing to download anyways.

In any case, I think the best way to implement DRM isn't by locking down the game itself but by offering a service beyond the game itself(extra content, support or perhaps even a discount on the studio's next game?). That way the user has a greater incentive to actually buy the game instead of downloading it.

In regards to the OP, I haven't really looked into AW but I think I will once I'm done with Deus Ex:HR.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2012 09:40 Edited at: 19th Feb 2012 09:42
Piracy: I think the best anti-piracy method was implemented in Serious Sam 3. If you download the game, you can play it just fine. As long as you can survive the "giant, invincible, super-fast, assault-rifle-wielding scorpion monster" that chases you around the levels and can get to you no matter where you are.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/12/07/the-painful-sting-of-serious-sam-3s-anti-piracy-protection/

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Quote: "I think the best anti-piracy method was implemented in Serious Sam 3. If you download the game, you can play it just fine. As long as you can survive the super-fast, invincible, death scorpion that chases you around the levels and can get to you no matter where you are.
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ah, but a quick search tells me there are workarounds for that =P

but still, thats a pretty shoe cool way of doing it xD


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