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Bootlicker
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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:00
Hey all,

I'm pretty close to the edge at the minute, complaining the the school and family about how I'm not performing to the best of my ability. This teacher is extremely sarcastic and rude, but not enough for anything to happen. She's one of them that does it snidely. I know I should suck it up, but she tried to get me excluded for trying to kill a fly in her lesson and wrote home because I forgot a pen to lesson, wtf. I'm going to snap soon and make things worse for myself.

Basically, how do you guys put up with things that annoy you to the extremes? I need something to take my mind off her when I'm near her. And no, I cant just drop the lesson. I wish, compulsory.

Thanks,

Ben

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:03
I don't know if there's any formula for self-control, but I know for sure that if you do snap, in the end it will do you good. First you get to release all that tension, and if the consequences are bad enough, then you'll learn how to hold it in

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:03
Don't kill flies and always bring a pen. Don't fuel her snide comments and don't give her any excuse to do anything other than teach you what she's supposed to. If you keep your head down and do your work, anything she does from there on is out of line and you can complain to her head of department/head teacher.

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:27 Edited at: 28th Feb 2012 22:31
The following things might sound ridiculous to you, but it helped me a lot when I was under a lot of stress.

-Every morning when you get out of bed, close your eyes and begin to inhale slowly, sucking in as far as you can, and then exhale, slowly letting go of your tension. When you inhale, picture yourself sucking in energy from the universe, and when you exhale, really try to push that collected energy out again. Do this a few times. Once I feel the energy flowing through me, I start to connect my head to it. I tap into it, and let the warm, pulsing matter flow into my head. Keep doing this until you have a warm, almost throbbing sensation in your head.

-If you feel like ****, go to the forest, do the above exercise, and instead of letting the energy out slowly, build it up inside you and let it out in a single burst (scream as loud as you can).

Seriously, try it. It does wonders

Other silly things you can do to make yourself happy:

-Smile. Just smile. It doesn't matter where you are. Because you are an organism, it will make you happy. Isn't that just stupid?
-Write complements to yourself with a marker on the mirror you look at every day. (Like "TheComet, you are awesome")
-Give other humans a complement! Does it really hurt to say to the bartender "you have a beautiful smile!"? NO, so do it!
-Help someone with something (homework for example)

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:31
Quote: "-Every morning when you get out of bed, close your eyes and begin to inhale slowly, sucking in as far as you can, and then exhale, slowly letting go of your tension. When you inhale, picture yourself sucking in energy from the universe, and when you exhale, really try to push that collected energy out again. Do this a few times. Once I feel the energy flowing through me, I start to connect my head to it. I tap into it, and let the warm, pulsing matter flow into my head. Keep doing this until you have a warm, almost throbbing sensation in your head."


will try that in the morning

Thanks for the responses, anything else I should do? especially while shes in my face and i feel like dropping kicking her ovaries?

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:32
I used to have teachers like that. One thought I used to enjoy in hind sight is that you are just passing through that part of life. She is stuck there and is clearly miserable. When i was younger I enjoyed the thought that they would be stuck suffering in school while I left and got on with enjoying my life.

later on I actually started to feel for these poor deluded souls, they are miserable and can only find pleasure in emotionally battering children. It's sad and pathetic. How powerless do you have to feel to be nasty to a child?
I realized that these people had never grown up and never attained the calm and relative clarity that accompanies maturity. many will never feel it. And its rarely anyone will try to help them, simply because they are nasty and unpleasant to be around. I also find that they tend to associate with others with the same mentality and so even in their own social time, they have to deal with the same bs that they put you through, there is no escape.

Putting them in perspective can help in feeling less powerless.(they no doubt suffered the same torment but just never had the clarity to see the cycle and get past it)

when im actually angry I find Meditation useful and calming. you don't have to light incense,sit in front of a Buddha statue in the lotus position. its as simple as just breathing deeply and slowly. you can do zen stye and empty your head and relax, but some have trouble with it and get bored. you can try mental exercises with your breathing. Things like breathing in golden joyous light, and then breathing out rotten stale black angry smoke. sounds a bit hippy and funny but it can actually help. just tailor it to your own mindset. basic idea is breath in calm and happy, breath out your troubles.

It wont make the situation go away, but when you are close to going over the edge it can calm you down.

Good luck! I dont envy you, I hated school.

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 22:39
Quote: "I used to have teachers like that. One thought I used to enjoy in hind sight is that you are just passing through that part of life. She is stuck there and is clearly miserable. When i was younger I enjoyed the thought that they would be stuck suffering in school while I left and got on with enjoying my life."


That is actually a brilliant insight. I wish I'd thought of that when I was having a hard time at school!

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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 23:01
Conscript a human to work as your personal hug dispenser. Sappy though it may sound, a hug is scientifically proven to make you feel better about life.
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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 23:03
I just don't let things like that annoy me. If you snap and start kicking off in class and throwing punches at people, then you're pretty much done for.

I recommend taking up boxing, or just get a punching bag you can kick and punch to release your stress.

Just ignore these teachers that are being trolls, let them make a fool of them selves by trying to make you react and they might end up getting sacked for it
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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 23:20 Edited at: 28th Feb 2012 23:21
Now i dont know how old you are, but school is supposed to prepare you for work life wherin if you forget your tools, you go home and get them, get back and no bitching about lost wages. Iam pretty sure i would get "illegimate" absence from class if i forgot my computer for example, or a mail at home if i were underage. The killing a fly thing is just ridiculous from his/her side though...


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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 23:28
Get your parents on your side? I had a primary school teacher like that and when it came to parents' evening my dad gave her an earful and she stopped.

Weirdly enough, I find it impossible to snap and wish I could. It's very rare for it to actually happen, even when I want to.

Releasing tension is healthy, but of course it's better to do it in a constructive matter. If it's ranting at a friend or telling her exactly what's bugging you. Now, obviously as she's your teacher, it's not that tactful because regardless of how crappy they are as a teacher the school will not find such behaviour acceptable.

However, you could try a complaint higher up. If you feel she's treating you unfairly you can make a complaint (and with your parents behind you that could hold more weight). Solving problems can also relieve the tension without needing to snap.


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Posted: 28th Feb 2012 23:30
Quote: "Now i dont know how old you are, but school is supposed to prepare you for work life wherin if you forget your tools, you go home and get them, get back and no bitching about lost wages. Iam pretty sure i would get "illegimate" absence from class if i forgot my computer for example, or a mail at home if i were underage. The killing a fly thing is just ridiculous from his/her side though..."

Quote: "However, you could try a complaint higher up. If you feel she's treating you unfairly you can make a complaint (and with your parents behind you that could hold more weight). Solving problems can also relieve the tension without needing to snap.
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Already done, I finished up a letter a few days ago that I need to hand in tomorrow, a copy for the head of department and head of school.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 00:06
^Just make sure to proofread it and to not come across as angry AT ALL, because writing a letter when you're angry is a big no-no.


I don't snap, I just can't go to sleep till like 5AM some mornings just out of frustration.

It's bad now that I'm in community college, because I'm not learning anything in the classes (well, not learning anything in math or physics) but I still have to put up with all of the stupid stuff, and so it's easy for me to fantasize about dropping out and doing indie dev (which while awesome I don't want to do as a career because I like physics and math too much).

The only thing keeping me in school is the knowledge that some day somewhere I might get a decent class xD

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 00:10 Edited at: 29th Feb 2012 00:35
I believe you need to work on methods of getting this teacher on your side. It's kind of a "keep your friends close... keep your enemies closer" type thing. It may sound manipulative, but what I am referring to is a skill you need to develop and hone. This type of skill will serve you well for the rest of your life, once learned. It's not easy, and there isn't one way to do it that fits all situations. But, I can tell you from experience... In life, you will constantly be faced with having to navigate these types of personalities. Sometimes, it's a teacher, a professor, a co-worker/supervisor/boss, a relative or in-law etc... Battling everyone, whether right or wrong grows old fast. Being able to get disagreeable people to agree with you, and in turn help you, will be a key to your own success.

In some situations you have more control than others, where you can make a decision for yourself on whether it's worth finding a way to bridge a divide,, or whether you are better off moving on.

Other times there may be complications in just leaving, and it's these times that learning how to get people on your side!
(Whether or not you truly "like" them is a separate issue and inconsequential, as is the fact that to be on your side they don't have to "like" you either).

I used to buck the system whenever challenged by difficult or unfair personalities. I found more often than not that I was "Cutting of my own nose to spite my face"! It takes a bit of effort, reading, tolerance, patience to learn.

I can't stress how much this is NOT about having to like everyone, nor agreeing with them. It's not about compromising your moral compass, it's not about pandering or ass-kissing either. It's about bringing out the best in people, especially with regard to your interests and/or mutual interests. It's not about being manipulative, but rather perhaps persuading to help you as opposed to making your life difficult.

I'll edit in some references to material I found helpful.

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How vigorous of a performance were you putting on while trying to kill the fly during her lesson? Did it disrupt the class? How often do you forget your writing utensils? And how often do you ask her for one?

Quote: "Now i dont know how old you are, but school is supposed to prepare you for work life wherin if you forget your tools, you go home and get them, get back and no bitching about lost wages. "

Most places that I know of will just fire you if you can't be bothered to remember bringing your tools to the job.

"I'm going to snap soon and make things worse for myself." So, you know it would make it worse for you, but you would snap anyway? Sounds rather foolish to me. Maybe she should bring in the counselor while she writes home to your parents if you are displaying any of this attitude in class. And if you think you've got it bad, imagine how bad she'd have it when one of her students began "kicking her ovaries"

My advice would be to man up, just do what you're told, try to get good grades, go to a good college, and get a good job where you can try not to kick your future boss in his or her reproductive organs.

P.S. My wife is a teacher, so I usually hear the other side of the story.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 12:16
Simple, take up boxing its not just a great way let of some steam it has many other benefits
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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 12:45
Alcohol. Sex. Not being in school helps me a lot with these things. Although where I come from it didn't make much difference...

On a side note I'm just naturally happy and don't stay depressed for very long at all (ie. 5 mins of poor me what shall I do?, then oooh a rerun of Battle of the Planets is on!). It's not really in my makeup for some reason. I would suggest growing up with a manic depressive (is the popular name bipolar these days?) as a dad. You kind of go in the opposite direction after a childhood of that hassle (unless it's genetic and you are unlucky which explains one or two things about my sister...)

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 12:49
When I was a teenager (yes, I can remember that far back ) I used to go for a long vigorous bicycle ride. That usually did the trick - especially when I found myself in the middle of a thunderstorm about 10 miles from home.

By the time I'd got back I'd usually forgotten what I was getting all frustrated or angry about.

Come to think of it, perhaps I'd better try that now ...
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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 12:55
As a teacher I always find to interesting to see how students perceive our actions.

You see from reading what you said, I have a picture in my mind of what kind of student you are. I bet how you percieve your actions are very different from your teacher, and I'll tell you now from what you wrote you're exactly the sort of student I hate having in class: the way you are treated is never as a result of your actions, it's because your teacher has it in for you. I don't get pleasure from 'emotionally battering'
children but I imagine you're not as innocent as you claim to be, and I don't put up with disruptive behaviour either.

Trying to kill a fly in class. Are you seriously going to tell me that this wasn't disruptive? When you're trying to kill a fly in class, how are you doing it? Is there a non-disruptive way to kill a fly during a lesson? Why do you need to kill a fly anyway?

As for forgetting your pen. I doubt very much that a letter would have been written home for forgetting a pen once. Unless your school is different than any other school I've worked in (and I've taught in more than one country), any letter that gets sent home has to be approved by the principal. This is done to protect your teacher from any repercussions. A record of contact with your parents would also have to be recorded. Again I find it incredibly hard to believe that the simple act of forgetting a pen would make your teacher write home. Contacting parents is not something a teacher jumps straight to.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 13:09 Edited at: 29th Feb 2012 13:33
Quote: "I would suggest growing up with a manic depressive (is the popular name bipolar these days?) as a dad. You kind of go in the opposite direction after a childhood of that hassle"


hehehe, my mum is bipolar. as a result I have developed almost superhuman emotional stability, almost to to the point where many who know me think that I am emotionless through my lack of reaction. Its not that, its just that after dealing with someone flying off the handle on both ends of the scale for years, i can see that reacting emotionally to anything is counterproductive.(just the way i see it, I know many disagree, not arguing with you. peace)
it is hard to see someone such a slave to a malfunctioning serotonin gland and to be unable to convince them that life is simple and beautiful when the emotional lense is removed.
on the other hand, her paintings are amazing and during manic phases she really can create some really outstanding work.
its a trade off i guess. just gotta watch these kurt cobains of the world so they dont hurt themselves.

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@ thraxis -
Quote: "I don't get pleasure from 'emotionally battering' + Code Snippet children but I imagine you're not as innocent as you claim to be"

I mean you no disrespect Thraxis. I have had experiences with *some* teachers which when looking back as an adult, i have realized they were sick and weak individuals who really were sadistic.

I noticed a chord of similarity in the OP's story and so shared my insight based upon my perception of shared experience.

This I imagine has rubbed you up the wrong way.
I am sorry about that. I am trusting the OP's position that they were unjustly treated.
My comments were not a statement on all teachers, just the cruel ones.
again, no disrespect intended.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 14:23
Quote: "my mum is bipolar. as a result I have developed almost superhuman emotional stability, almost to to the point where many who know me think that I am emotionless through my lack of reaction"
Exactly. Personally I think it should be a mandatory requirement for a tech support job.

Cheers

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 15:01
Quote: "As for forgetting your pen. I doubt very much that a letter would have been written home for forgetting a pen once. "


its called a "blue mail" in germany, for unpleasant behavior or something like that. teachers can write that on their own, but have to stay report if parents interrupt. its like a once-upcalled-warning. had a teacher (omg, its 20 years now!^^) that writes bluemails for forgetting homework, lost pens, talking with others in class... yes, all disrupting or negative things from teacher-sights, but not neccessary to call the parents if he would know his job: teach children what school is about for later life.

dont be angry, bootlicker, she is right with some (fly), wrong with others (pen), also teachers are only human (what surprise!).
and if you are the one "casper"/clown that does interrupt all the time, you become the plug for her anger.

change your behavior a bit, and she will follow.

you will find same situations later in life, at work, at home with your girl, kids ... and you wont go anywhere without doing small steps.

Quote: "-If you feel like ****, go to the forest, do the above exercise, and instead of letting the energy out slowly, build it up inside you and let it out in a single burst (scream as loud as you can).

Seriously, try it. It does wonders "


THIS, if nothing else helps.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 15:09 Edited at: 29th Feb 2012 15:16
I think it can depend on the teacher, but in general you're right Thraxas, though I do remember select teachers who were a little OTT.

My year 7 technology teacher kept the entire class in detention because of 1 disruptive kid. My year 8 maths teacher sent me to spend the rest of the lesson with the head of department (punishment for especially disruptive people) when the disruptive kid next to me knocked my pencil case on the floor and I picked it up, but he thought I was being disruptive although I was genuinely working and hadn't engaged with the disrupting behaviour - I suppose to see it from his point of view, 75% of the class was disruptive, so he probably found it difficult to tell who was genuinely working and those who were disrupting the lesson and he needed to get rid of some of the disruptive students to quieten it down.

One of my French teachers lost his cool a lot, he used to swear at students and even threw furniture about. He was a nutcase...though I can't say I disliked having him as a teacher, he was entertaining when he had his cool and was entertaining when he lost it. My year 9 science teacher used to swear at students like a sailor, though given she had a nervous breakdown when I was in year 10, I suspect she was losing her cool for a reason.

Though the last 2 examples is behaviour teachers wouldn't normally get away with.

I think they're examples of teachers who act in an unfair or unprofessional manner. I wouldn't necessarily suggest that a student has bad dealings with a teacher because they're genuinely being disruptive. Not all teachers are sane nor are they all reasonable.

But most of my teachers were probably as Thraxas describes teachers in general, some of them were pretty awesome and even the strict ones had reasons to be strict. I can't say their strictness didn't work, compare my GCSE Biology and Physics classes, the students were the same but the teachers different, on one hand you've got a strict Biology teacher and we'd learn a lot and there'd be no disruptions. Physics on the other hand was chaos. Interestingly, biology was my strongest science and physics my weakest...saying that I still got A's on both sets of exams.

I will admit I earned the one after-school detention I did. I was disruptive during a German mock exam by (sorry for the pun) mocking some of the names on the paper with the guy sat next to me. It was immature...it probably wasn't even that funny.


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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 15:57 Edited at: 29th Feb 2012 15:59
Wasn't there that story of the teacher in the UK who snapped? Basically he had been off for a few months with depression or something and even told them he didn't feel ready to come back to work when they made him.

Anyway apparently the kids pushed and pushed him (no discipline any more in schools basically thanks to PC stuff) by seriously putting him down and treating him like dirt.

He then snapped and apparently beat a kid unconscious with a weight shouting "Die die die!".

He got off though when it turned out the kids had filmed what they had done to him to further humiliate the teacher by passing the footage around the school (and I assume YouTube). Basically proof they were torturing a person with mental problems. Amazingly surprising result though...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8652243.stm

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Kids can be seriously screwed up at times. And I think you're right about the PC stuff, I think I could observe the changes as I was in secondary school.

Year 7. Student in my tutor group gets suspect for swearing at tutor and calling him a w-word. This student is then placed in a different tutor group. I almost got a detention for saying 'crap' in the playground as a teacher over heard me. Swearing was a big 'no' and most teachers wouldn't let you get away with it, though if there was a weakness it'd be exploited.

When I was in sixth form, students could insult teachers and drop all sorts of swears without getting punished, teachers just negotiated with them to calm down and take all sorts of disrespect, even from year 7 kids. Even before 6th form , even kids were dropping threats to teachers about how they couldn't touch them and that they could do nothing about it. I guess it caught on. If kids can have power over a teacher, they will take advantage.

I guess to teach people in that age group you really need thick skin, certainly not to be someone suffering from depression, which is what I suspect happened to my year 9 science teacher. That story sounds little like the kids in my year 8 maths class, everybody thought the teacher was gay and he wasn't really a strong or assertive teacher so the kids bullying him got away with it. Though the guy who slapped him on the bald patch did get suspended.


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Quote: "As a teacher I always find to interesting to see how students perceive our actions.

You see from reading what you said, I have a picture in my mind of what kind of student you are. I bet how you percieve your actions are very different from your teacher, and I'll tell you now from what you wrote you're exactly the sort of student I hate having in class: the way you are treated is never as a result of your actions, it's because your teacher has it in for you. I don't get pleasure from 'emotionally battering' + Code Snippet children but I imagine you're not as innocent as you claim to be, and I don't put up with disruptive behaviour either.

Trying to kill a fly in class. Are you seriously going to tell me that this wasn't disruptive? When you're trying to kill a fly in class, how are you doing it? Is there a non-disruptive way to kill a fly during a lesson? Why do you need to kill a fly anyway?

As for forgetting your pen. I doubt very much that a letter would have been written home for forgetting a pen once. Unless your school is different than any other school I've worked in (and I've taught in more than one country), any letter that gets sent home has to be approved by the principal. This is done to protect your teacher from any repercussions. A record of contact with your parents would also have to be recorded. Again I find it incredibly hard to believe that the simple act of forgetting a pen would make your teacher write home. Contacting parents is not something a teacher jumps straight to.
"


meh, its an army school. as soon as any discipline is even questioned the droppings hit the fan. and i sit at the back of the class on my own, i spun sideways in my chair and got spoken to for that. which was the time she wrote the letter. kinda retarded i think. :L i understand where your coming from, but im quite a geek in school, never in trouble for anything apart from this one class. interestingly the only detentions, behaviour reports or complaints are all from her.

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This is a great book that I believe everyone should read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People


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The key word underpinning all of this is "SINCERITY". If you can't be sincere, and realize the greater goal... all of this will back-fire worse than saying nothing.

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Quote: "Anyway apparently the kids pushed and pushed him (no discipline any more in schools basically thanks to PC stuff) by seriously putting him down and treating him like dirt. "


I call bulls...


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Quote: "Let the other person save face."


That's a good one and one that's helped me a lot in life.

This book is great, read it when I was a teen. Should read it again for good measure.

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Quote: "Let the other person save face."

Quote: "
That's a good one and one that's helped me a lot in life.

This book is great, read it when I was a teen. Should read it again for good measure.
"


Definitely! The same goes for me. How often I forget what I have learned, or react without thinking things through. There is an abridged pocket version as well. The principles in this book have helped me greatly in life. (When I've chosen to apply them).

When relations with co-workers, outside vendors, customers, supervisors, head in the wrong direction... I can usually point the blame at my failure in following one, if not more, of the "common sense" pieces of advice above.


More often than not, simple actions...

~ Keeping a proper frame of mind, ego, and perspective
~ Paying attention to your manner of speaking; AND non-verbal cues
~ Sincerely Listening to the other person(s)
~ Maintaining a level of mutual respect and keeping the channel of communication open
~ Being flexible and reasonable. etc...

can turn even the most difficult, and seemingly hopeless, situations around.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 22:32
I'm starting to think its actually you now, not the teachers, being you said its a military school. You seem to be disrespecting the rules in class, such as leaning on your chair in an odd manner.

Just think about it for a minute, is it really the teachers being the bad guys or is it you and you're not realising what you're doing to make the teachers "hate" you?
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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 22:40
Quote: "I'm starting to think its actually you now, not the teachers, being you said its a military school. You seem to be disrespecting the rules in class, such as leaning on your chair in an odd manner."


i dont think they hate me. :L im the good child that does their homework and all that stuff.

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Posted: 29th Feb 2012 23:20
Quote: "i dont think they hate me. :L im the good child that does their homework and all that stuff."

Giggity.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 02:04 Edited at: 1st Mar 2012 02:09
You said it yourself in your first post. SUCK IT UP. You need to develop thicker skin.

Quote: "Quote: "my mum is bipolar. as a result I have developed almost superhuman emotional stability, almost to to the point where many who know me think that I am emotionless through my lack of reaction"
Exactly. Personally I think it should be a mandatory requirement for a tech support job.
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SO TRUE. Especially if you're face to face with the customer. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to rip someone's face off (figuratively, not literally) while having to smile and laugh as they blatantly lie to me that they "would never put a paper clip in the copy machine's auto document feeder," and that they "check ALL the time," and that they "have no idea how it happened," and that "it must have been nightshift."

My favorite line is "I went to add paper and this piece just fell off"... yeah, my arse, lady. You dropped or slammed the paper tray.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 05:05
This might sound insane, but touch your tongue. Literally. If you are about to scream and you can't think of a way to prevent it, just touch your tongue. Something about that motion just releases energy. It also prevents you from yawning, which is interesting.

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Quote: "they blatantly lie to me that they "would never put a paper clip in the copy machine's auto document feeder,""
Best I've had is we installed a PC as a simple email server at one of our smaller customer sites. The Unix machine used it to send automated emails from our main system. All good. Then one day the said Email had stopped working. We looked into it loads remotely and were just about to go on site when we found out that they thought they didn't need it anymore (once setup obviously it's task is done) and formatted the PC and gave it to a new starter. Sigh. And there was several spare PCs too. We fixed it and told them to leave it alone, pref in a different room to users etc.

A week goes by and the same problem. We said check what it says on the screen. They said they took away the monitor. Wait a bit for plugin monitor. Ok so press a key and what does it say? No keyboard. Sigh. Wait some more plug it in and we get some error messages from them (can't remote access it for some reason). Again we start to get to the stage we need to go on site. The customers are stupid to the point of dangerous and extremely hostile. As in all of this is mixed in with "WHY DOESN'T MY EMAIL WORK! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! I HATE YOU! FIX IT NOW!" type phrases. Right at the stage where we are booking a flight to visit them they then say actually they had moved the PC into the server room just to be sure no-one touched it. And just after that it stopped doing emails. Aha. Hmmm. Sure you plugged it all back in? They didn't hang on the phone long after quietly admitting they just realised the network cable was unplugged, but you know it must have "just fallen out". Sigh... As I said sex and alcohol people...

Quote: "It also prevents you from yawning, which is interesting"
Once I was sneezing quite a bit at work. You know that sort of day you have where for some reason you just can't stop sneezing now and again? Anyway the guy sitting next to me got fed up and when I was in mid breathing in to sneeze (ie. no way back) he touched my neck. Completely stopped me sneezing. Amazingly not only that but I found I then didn't need to sneeze at all. No God I need to sneeze feeling, it was completely gone right there and then. And I didn't sneeze again all night. According to him it only works on someone once really.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 10:23
Quote: "Once I was sneezing quite a bit at work. You know that sort of day you have where for some reason you just can't stop sneezing now and again? Anyway the guy sitting next to me got fed up and when I was in mid breathing in to sneeze (ie. no way back) he touched my neck. Completely stopped me sneezing. Amazingly not only that but I found I then didn't need to sneeze at all. No God I need to sneeze feeling, it was completely gone right there and then. And I didn't sneeze again all night. According to him it only works on someone once really."


I'd have hit the guy for touching my neck, invading my personal space. How do you also know where he has had his hands? It would just make me rage, even thinking of someone doing that does.
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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 11:24
Quote: "I'd have hit the guy for touching my neck, invading my personal space. How do you also know where he has had his hands? It would just make me rage, even thinking of someone doing that does."
Not in mid sneeze you wouldn't. All of your focus is on the sneeze that is coming and is like a second away. You are breathing in heavily and nothing else really matters. To get a touch on the neck at that point is really disorientating as a split second later you *are* going to sneeze. It's not exactly a Ninja readiness moment...

Cheers

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I just count to 5 and pray that helps...)
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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 14:08
Quote: "I'd have hit the guy for touching my neck, invading my personal space. How do you also know where he has had his hands? It would just make me rage, even thinking of someone doing that does."


personal space, what is that?!
And who cares where he had his hands, i know i dont... since i dont know it.


Anyway, personally i coulnt care less for that :S


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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 14:21
Quote: "How do you also know where he has had his hands?"


Do you think he's going to give you cooties or something?

Chill out man!

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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 19:20
Quote: "I'd have hit the guy for touching my neck, invading my personal space. How do you also know where he has had his hands? It would just make me rage, even thinking of someone doing that does."


You'd actually assault someone for just touching you?



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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 20:05
Just sounds like one of those irritating people who do things without your permission.

So basically, you all wouldn't mind if some guy who had been playing with his private parts, suddenly touches you on your neck?

Cooties? I'm not American nor am I 5 years old lol. I just wouldnt want some weirdo touching me.
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Quote: "So basically, you all wouldn't mind if some guy who had been playing with his private parts, suddenly touches you on your neck?"


well, since I dont know it? If he told me: I HAVE BEEN TOUCHING MY PRIVATE PARTS *grabs neck* then obviously i would care. But what you dont know wont kill you

or well, it might, but you get what I mean.


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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 20:17
Personally, I'd assault him for not letting me sneeze. Especially being stopped mid sneeze?! That's like laboring to bake the most delicious cake in existence and then not getting to eat any of it!

Plus, I like sneezing.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 20:26 Edited at: 1st Mar 2012 20:29
The same guy might hand you a biscuit or shake your hand, you'd at least hope the other person has basic hygiene. I'm frequently washing my hands, I'm not sure if we shook hands when we met, if we did, mine were clean.

Generally I don't like my personal space invaded either, at least too much, one of the annoyances when going out drinking with one my mates, he was a space invader after he had a few, even if you told him he'd still invade it. But once I've got to the same level of drunkness, it didn't really matter. I think I was almost tempted to punch him on one or two occasions as I had sobered up, but of course I'm not that sort of person and would never do it, however, that's what feels like a natural reaction to invaded space and it's the reason I hate crowds and shops with really narrow aisles (especially clothes and sports shops).

And yes, I am a keen festival goer and love watching live gigs...places where your space is constantly invaded, especially when moshing, but somehow it's completely different, it doesn't bother you. It's weird.


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Posted: 1st Mar 2012 20:40 Edited at: 1st Mar 2012 23:30
Quote: "So basically, you all wouldn't mind if some guy who had been playing with his private parts, suddenly touches you on your neck?"


I don't remember I or anyone else saying this.



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