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Geek Culture / another hard math problem

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Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 7th Mar 2012 22:45
Quote: "My 3 friends and I were caught and tied up by 1023 screaming cannibals in a jungle last night. Soon we were feeling terribly itchy because of the mosquitoes. We begged the cannibals to scratch us. 219 cannibals refused because they were busy cutting vegetables. The rest of them, however, surrounded us in equal numbers and began to scratch us with their teeth, just like dogs. It felt good! How many cannibals scratched me?"

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/03/05/teacher-fired-for-giving-third-graders-violent-and-racist-math/

Thoughts? Either way, I don't see how the teacher thought she could get away with it.

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Posted: 7th Mar 2012 23:09 Edited at: 7th Mar 2012 23:10
A simple math problem, and a funny meaning. Personally I wouldn't mind solving those kinds of problems as a student. I think it gives you some humor during all of the boring things you have to solve. Maybe that's just me? Black or white, yellow or brown... We're all humans in the end and I don't care what someone looks like.

I guess it depends who's solving them. 18+ humans should be fine, but I wouldn't allow this to be solved by anyone younger.

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Posted: 7th Mar 2012 23:20
Quote: ""...A tiger bakes hundreds of humans in ovens. A boy chokes to death on hundreds of marbles. A SWAT team member kills hundreds of terrorists, murderers and arsonists, in just one week alone."

"...So what did I do? I made my math problems fun and funny by putting what kids absolutely adore -- ogres, fairies, bashing, sword-fighting... and yes, nose-picking and belching too..."

"It doesn't follow anything that we do," Beverly Wheeler, the CEO of City Center Public Charter Schools, told Washington's WUSA-TV. "I found them to be violent and racist.""


I really don't understand where the racism comes into play other than what was quoted by Beverly Wheeler. I remain skeptical about the racist remarks until I see all the math problems. Unless she is talking about the ogres and fairies...

I personally think that the violence could have been left out, but how many fairy tales don't have violence in them. I mean even:
Hush-a-by baby
On the tree top,
When the wind blows
The cradle will rock.
When the bough breaks,
The cradle will fall,
And down will fall baby
Cradle and all.

Has the idea of a baby and cradle plummeting to the ground. Probably in a fiery death. I just reread Hansel and Gretel the other day, and it's got some very grim undertones as well.

I personally think we should stop coddling our youth and do what it takes to get them educated. But that's coming from a guy who was paddled frequently in elementary school. So it could be a vengeance sort of thing...

tiresius
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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 04:25
Dog's don't scratch you with their teeth. Glad she wasn't a biology teacher!


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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 07:05
Well dogs scratch some of their own itches with their teeth, which is what I think they meant.

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 09:28
I think they're being over sensitive...

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 15:48
My math and physics teacher does similar things, For example as an introduction to the electricity part of physics, he showed us the basics of how a railgun works. And as an example of exponential functions, He used a zombie invasion. He is the best teacher we have and im sure that this teacher could really help the kids get intrested in maths.
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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 18:02 Edited at: 8th Mar 2012 18:03
Actually you make a very interesting point. Our electronics teacher used sexual references wherever possible. Things along the lines of "the electrons attack this component from behind" Nothing wrong with that as long as the audience is mature.

That style of teaching really sticks to your mind for some reason, making it a lot more effective than the "usual" way of teaching.

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Posted: 8th Mar 2012 21:18
Quote: "That style of teaching really sticks to your mind for some reason, making it a lot more effective than the "usual" way of teaching."


It realy does, even though with my teacher, at least 15% of the lesson goes to random stories that has verry little to do with the subject, like how to make "hot icecream", I think we still learn a lot more than we would with the "usual" way of teaching. Education needs to be fun and have some form of motivation to be effective. It's a shame there are so few teachers like this out there
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Posted: 9th Mar 2012 04:25
I think some of the problems had other lessons hidden within them. "John swallowed 5963 marbles and died." Well, kids, don't swallow marbles and you won't die.

Don't know all of the math problems given to the kids, but the only one I saw mentioning race was about a tiger cooking africans, among other races, in giant ovens... so... how is it racist if any particulars weren't singled out? (Not to mention that we're talking about a tiger cooking people... and here I was taught tigers liked raw meat.)

Now, I know a lot of people were saying "whatever works" to get students interested in math, but I have to agree that some of the questions were pretty graphic (some even using vocabulary that I doubt a third grader would use). I honestly think the one fuzzy quoted is fairly tame and hardly violent at all... unless they're trying to be racist toward jungle tribes being cannibals.


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Posted: 9th Mar 2012 09:40
Well, like you said, the choice of questions may not be the best for 8 year olds but teachers shuld try and come up with something else than a guy has 5 pencils and gives 3 away, how many does he have left
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Posted: 9th Mar 2012 10:01
This just sounds extremely stupid.

I hate today's tendency for not mentioning stupidity, and hiding it behind PC-ness and all that crap.

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