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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2012 15:00 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2012 18:32
Because having a (inter)National Novel Writing Month once a year is not enough there's Camp NaNoWriMo which offers a NaNoWriMo for other months of the year. Essentially the challenge is the same, write a 50,000 word novel in a single month (starting June 1st). Because I didn't enter the official NaNoWriMo last November I've decided to enter Camp NaNoWriMo. I don't have a sponsorship or anything like that, I'm just doing it for the fun of it.

The difference about Camp NaNoWriMo is that you actually get a 'cabin', meaning you're putting into groups to push you to work on achieving the 50k word goal. My cabin is full, but I wonder who else is tempted by entering? Would be cool to cheer people on.

Currently I'm at ~200 words as I spent yesterday planning everything (edit: make that 2,288 words now, need to hit 3,333 today to stay on schedule), but I plan on making up for it today. I managed to beat the official NaNoWriMo in 2008 with 50,504 words. It was exhausting, but then that's because I pretty much left most of it to the last week or so.

If it helps anybody, I wrote this article a while back on winning the ordeal:
http://www.squidoo.com/survivngnanowrimo


I know this forum has other writers, so there's NO EXCUSE for somebody else to not be entering. If enough people are entering, I could probably set up some kind of TGC group so we can encourage each other to push it (and offer any help and advice).


Anyway, good luck to anybody else who enters.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2012 07:18
Sounds interesting. Written plenty of shorts but never a novel.

From my research, a sci-fi novel is usually aboot 80k-120k words. That's a lot of writing to do in a month and make it good.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2012 12:20 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2012 21:20
The limit they put in the challenge is 50k and it doesn't have to be good, only first draft material. It's not a competition where you write the best novel, think of it like running a marathon. Generally people get others to sponser them and raise money for charity, others just do it for the challenge and to get a first draft of something at the end. I found last time I did it, when it comes round to the editing you find yourself adding more to it. My 50k novel had enough plot for 2 books, but needed a lot of it to be expanded upon.

In fact, for this Camp NaNoWriMo I'm writing book 2. I haven't finished editing book 1 but it's in a state where I can get away with doing book 2.

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Hit the 5k mark, which means I'm managed to make up for the day I missed.

Also, is it wrong that I almost wrote:

Quote: ""Wait until you see him, all bright and sparkly like a vampire, it’ll make you sick.""


as a simile?

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2012 21:54
Quote: "I know this forum has other writers, so there's NO EXCUSE for somebody else to not be entering"


Oh, I have excuses. I have oodles... Seriously, would love to enter but my life really is in shambles. I can't even focus on my own stuff (It's ironic your article mentioned distractions). Anyway, do you have a link to their official page? If you could post it I'd be grateful as I'd like to give this a bash in the future.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2012 22:33
The point about distractions was to help anybody who might think they're too busy to achieve NaNoWriMo, after all some extremely busy people do pull it off. But there can be things that would get in the way, I don't think it's universal, particularly with personal issues. But I hope whatever's causing you problems at the moment improve.

Anyway.

Camp NaNoWriMo:
http://campnanowrimo.org/
Has NaNoWriMos in June and August. Cool thing about this one is you get put into a cabin (not a real one of course) with 5 other writers to help encourage you to write and are these as some kind of support. Got a couple of nice people in my cabin, but most of them quiet, it's just mostly me and a Norwegian guy talking.

NaNoWriMo:
http://www.nanowrimo.org/
The Official NaNoWriMo, held every November.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 00:12
Tks a lot Sepp. Hopefully August will be an option. Something to look forward to

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 12:07
Cool cool, my friend is going to be doing August as well, I'm tempted, but I'm on holiday for the first week of August. I could probably write on the journey (we're going by bus, so it'll be long journey), but as it's for a music festival (all the way over in Germany) I won't be taking any tech with me. I doubt I'll spend much time in the tent and probably the time I will spend at the tent it'll be too dark to write - heck I might even be too drunk to write.

I'm sure I'll be able to make up for lost time if I do enter in August as well. 2008 I left most of the writing to just before I entered the final week and it was intense (had to pull off 10k words in one day).

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 14:14
Quote: "heck I might even be too drunk to write."

As Hemingway (I think it was Hemingway) said; "[Write while drunk and edit while sober]" (I don't recall the quote verbatim but that's the gist of it).

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 14:47 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 14:54
Very good point! I think I'll have to make a trip to the off license and get a month's supply of booze.

Talking of writing under the influence, wasn't there the story about Coleridge writing the poem, Kubla Khan? He was having an opium induced dream and when he woke he had worked out this poem in his head and he jotted it down, but half way through some sod interrupted him and as a result it was incomplete. Shame because it sounded like it was a good poem. But then at the time, opium was legal.


Just don't do what a friend at University did, he managed to a Twitter interview with Neil Gaiman for his dissertation, but was drunk at the time. He felt like a complete idiot as most of the questions he asked made him sound like an idiot and were mostly irrelevant to his project. At least he managed to get a quote he could use. Still, of all the times to be drunk...

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 16:27
I'm very tempted, but I have all 3 hands full of things to do. Perhaps I'll enter the August one. Good luck Seppuku, I hope to be able to read what you create.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 16:57 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 17:08
The premise of this thing is quantity over quality, this is exactly the opposite direction you need to go in. Its not more is better, its better is better.

Id sooner read a great one page pamphlet, than an entire book of rubbish. This turns writing into a factory production line, mindless 'spelling bees', dictating word salad, a meal fit only for the slop of pigs.

This is typical of the sort of thing that is presented for the publics consumption, always the reverse of reality, if you ever want to know what to do to be successful, just do and think the opposite of the public. More more more, always more, never better, eternal looking over their haunches, who has the most, eternal keeping up with the Jones, a rat race to create the highest tower of mediocrity.

Speaking of a quality erection.

This disappoints me in the Camp NaNoWriMo rules. No prawn. Why the hell not?
Damn it! I was wanting to write a sonnet about my love for Kerry Katonas prawn ring, I was thinking of popping down and fingering one today, my mouth is watering just thinking about it, and for just 3 pounds that qualifies you for entry, just think you too could be gobbling off Kerrys prawn ring as well.

Actually forget what I said about Kerry, I've just seen the new Queen of Prawn.

Her prawn ring looks more succulent, Kerry your dumped. Stacys package is nicer, Lord or the Rings style goblins, this is just like when gay actor Sir Ian Murray McKellen plays Gandalf and he wants to gain entry to Mordor and destroy someones ring.

I love good quality prawn. Speaking of which, does anyone read these Camp NaNoWriMo BABEL towers of word spurt? Or is it just literary onanism. An embarrassment of discharge wrapped in white paper and shameful discarded in the bin or flushed down the toilet.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 17:18 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 17:24
You've got it all wrong Fallen One. What NaNoWriMo encourages is for you to get out a rough first draft of 50,000 words or more. It doesn't have to be good because what they're encouraging you to do is get your ideas down into a piece of prose and have material to work with when you come to edit it. I found from the first NaNoWriMo I spent plenty of time editing my writing, but the really positive thing was I had it all written down, it was a case of improving it, fixing plot holes and making it better.

Also, you're able to plan to your heart's desire before hand and you get time to think about what you're writing, it's only 1,667 words per day, once you're getting into it, it's not so bad.

It's easy to start a novel and not finish it. The point is to give you a goal and encourage you to meet it.

Quote: "Damn it! I was wanting to write a sonnet about my love for Kerry Katonas prawn ring, I was thinking of popping down and fingering one today, my mouth is watering just thinking about it, and for just 3 pounds that qualifies you for entry, just think you too could be gobbling off Kerrys prawn ring as well."


Then write one. It's the National Novel Writing Month, not the National Poetry Writing Month, not that it should stop you from writing poetry lusting for Kerry Katona.

Quote: "Speaking of which, does anyone read these Babelonian towers of word spurt? Or is it just literary onanism. An embarrassment of discharge wrapped in white paper and shameful discarded in the bin or flushed down the toilet."


Depends if you want them to. It's not a competition, you're not entering to 'win' and therefore you entries aren't judging by anyone. Yes, you could in theory lie about your word count, but there would be no point in doing so, other than to make people think you can write 50,000 words in a month. There's no prizes. It's like running a marathon. You're not writing as though you're going to publish what you've written - you might try to publish what you've edited. I have shown some people my work from my previous NaNoWriMo, but only stuff I've edited, nobody but me will ever read the first draft. Generally the feedback is positive.


Quote: "I'm very tempted, but I have all 3 hands full of things to do. Perhaps I'll enter the August one. Good luck Seppuku, I hope to be able to read what you create."


Fairplay and thank you. I'll probably only share any edited versions. Given it's part two of my novel, you'd probably have to read that first. But much of the first part has been edited enough for me to show others. I do plan on attempting to get it published, so I doubt I'll show the whole thing.


Currently at: 6,819. Beaten today's goal.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 20:58 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 21:00
I didn't say anything about lusting Kerry Katona you Seppuku sex pest pervert. I said I fancy her prawn ring. Prawn, not porn! available from the Iceland.
Thats Iceland the supermarket, not Iceland the birth place of Jon Pall Sigmarsson - The Viking!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_sKrdzYpkU
By the way he laughs from his resting place in Valhalla at your attempts to grow a viking beard. I myself don't have a beard, I sweat testosterone and it petrifies solid into darks shafts of pure man hormone, giving me the appearance of a full beard.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 21:56 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 21:57
Quote: "I didn't say anything about lusting Kerry Katona you Seppuku sex pest pervert. I said I fancy her prawn ring. Prawn, not porn! available from the Iceland"


Well you got me there. Sex on the brain, just a shame it had to be Kerry Katona.

Quote: " I myself don't have a beard, I sweat testosterone and it petrifies solid into darks shafts of pure man hormone, giving me the appearance of a full beard."


Are you also voiced by Alec Baldwin?



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Posted: 4th Jun 2012 23:30
Quote: "Id sooner read a great one page pamphlet, than an entire book of rubbish. This turns writing into a factory production line, mindless 'spelling bees', dictating word salad, a meal fit only for the slop of pigs."

Not all things made in a factory are of poor quality. In fact there are plenty of mechanical assembly lines producing vastly superior products to the ones being hand-assembled carefully by children at their homes. Why I had a pair of shoes that were hand-made by Ethiopian minors and they broke in a mere two months! And to think the parents actually give those little brats a bowl of porridge a day as payment! Makes you sick, doesn't it!

... What I mean is that it's a good exercise to write a lot, even if you produce rubbish. At the end you read it and you say, "Wow, I sure did create the biggest bowl 'o pig's swirl I ever did read!" but at least you gain experience. "Jeepers, I sure shuddan't be doin' that again" and just like that you leveled up. "Warlock lvl 80!" etc.

Like all things, writing requires constant practice. I did a writing course and our teacher told us to write at least five minutes every day of our lives. It didn't matter what or how much we wrote. I've actually stumbled upon some of my favorite ideas through mind association while doing that exercise.

But each to their own. I figure at least 75.0000001% of the participants will produce something I'd gladly gouge my eyes out before wading through but I would never want to belittle their personal achievements (well not to their face at least).

Quote: "Currently at: 6,819. Beaten today's goal."

Well done, keep going *Insert cheerleaders*

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Posted: 5th Jun 2012 17:12 Edited at: 5th Jun 2012 17:17
The challenge is not the only thing about NaNoWriMo either, it also works like a marathon, anybody who joins in may be sponsored and you're writing to raise money for charity. I don't think everybody running a marathon are looking to be the best athlete, you might not be able to outrun Linford Christie, but if you're looking to become an athlete, it's no doubt a good challenge for you, even if you're not it's still a worthy goal to achieve, even if you finish last. Plus, there's the charitable aspect of a marathon. This tends to be how I view it.

The official NaNoWriMo raise $837k last year, Camp NaNoWriMo has almost raised $15k (it gets fewer participants than the official one).

Quote: "Quote: "Currently at: 6,819. Beaten today's goal."
Well done, keep going *Insert cheerleaders*"


Cheers. 8710 now. I'll hit the 10k mark tomorrow. Seems I'm a lot more focused than I was last time I did this. Last time I crammed 10k words into a single day to catch up. :/

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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 02:05
Quote: "*Insert cheerleaders*"


Cheerleaders inserted (they're not minors so take it easy)


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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 04:31 Edited at: 6th Jun 2012 04:32
Quote: "Cheerleaders inserted (they're not minors so take it easy)"


They look it.

Talking of cheerleaders and minors, when the university I studied at had an open day for kids to visit the cheerleading squad were doing demonstrations and one of the songs they decided to cheer to? It was one of Gary Glitter's, clever idea. I wonder if they knew why people tend not to play any of his records any more. If so, well I guess you've got to commend them for having a sick sense of humour.

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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 05:00
Quote: "It was one of Gary Glitter's, clever idea. I wonder if they knew why people tend not to play any of his records any more."


Haha. That reminds me that I still have Jock Jams CDs from my high school days somewhere around collecting dust...not that I ever had any reason to own them....

*Goes to look through boxes for the CDs*

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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 05:37 Edited at: 6th Jun 2012 07:25
Garry Glitter - Reminds me, used to sell on eBay and would leave funny comments in the feedback, examples.
I sent the item by private jet, I hope the buyer loves my personal touches.
Buyer was simply out of this world, possibly not human!
Item - The World's Greatest Alien Encounters.
Id buy some computer cables.
The cables fit the suitcase nuke a treat, Christmas will be an explosive delight.
or some computer gadget or other and joke.
I use this to turn my neighbors pace maker on and off, nee nar goes the ambulance.
Just silly feedback, Id do it for everything, I liked the challenge of writing something funny for the mundane, in such a small number of characters feedback allows. some laugh, but some do not see the funny side. There is a reason you have canned laughter in TV shows, to tell those of dead souls to conform or pretend they have a sense of humour. Case point, a leather bikers jacket I resold as it was way too small. I wrote in the feedback to the buyer.
I hope the jacket works out for your Garry Glitter tribute band.
They did not like this at all. They got very uppity, asking what I meant by that in aggressive overtones. Its amazing how brave people are behind the net, funny, never saw that in person when I was a nightclub bouncer in my early 20s. Its obvious a joke, just an ordinary protective biker jacket, all my feedback was comedy, obvious its a joke. I think the geezer does protests too much, perhaps as they say, many a true word spoken in jest. He went on to claim he never received the item, unless the item is tracked, you lose the case with eBay, in the end I claimed the items back through royal mails postage refund. Never bothered with funny comments after that.

I have some funny games coming out soon, I'm wondering if they will cause a stink. Its amazing what media people are offended by, and yet I can find TV very offensive, but as they are the establishment, its quite OK for them. funny thing is, those that claim to be the most liberal and cutting edge, are often the most repressive of anyone else. Do as I say, not as I do. Dish it out, but cant take it in return. Its not just humour, anything intelligent is also very threatening, its amazing the power the written word has.


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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 05:42 Edited at: 6th Jun 2012 05:45
Haha! I never thought of doing that on Ebay, wouldn't do it anyway, gotta keep up the "professional" image. However, I always did it on Amazon for product reviews.

Quote: "There is a reason you have canned laughter in TV shows, its to tell people with dead souls into either conforming or pretending they have a sense of humour."

Could just be that TV shows now aren't funny. I have to revert to 70's and 80's (some 90's) Brit TV if I want funny.

Quote: "those that claim to be the most liberal and cutting edge, are often the most repressive of anyone else. Do as I say, not as I do."


Agreed...but I shall make no further comments on that matter.

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Lol, I'll admit, those are pretty funny.


Quote: "There is a reason you have canned laughter in TV shows, its to tell people with dead souls into either conforming or pretending they have a sense of humour."


Canned laughter really bugs me. It's too fake and ruins the punchline. It doesn't matter if it's a real live audience laughing (like on episode of QI). If a joke is funny, it doesn't need canned laughter.

Quote: "Or something on that lines. They did not like this at all. They got very uppity, asking what I meant by that in aggressive overtones. Its amazing how brave people are behind the net, funny, never saw that when I was a nightclub bouncer in my early 20s. Its obvious a joke, just an ordinary protective biker jacket, all my feedback was comedy, obvious its a joke. I think the geezer does protests too much, perhaps as they say, many a true word spoken in jest. He went on to claim he never received the item, unless the item is tracked, you lose the case with eBay, in the end I claimed the items back through royal mails postage refund. Never bothered with funny comments after that."


Unfortunately some people don't have a sense of humour, I know it's easier to misconstrue what somebody is saying through the internet, as it might not be easy to get the tone of conversation. But if I got that Gary Glitter comment, chances are I'd leave it at that or respond with some poor attempt at a witty comeback. But I think people's lack of sense of humour kinda speaks of itself, many of our comedians seem to get into trouble with select groups in the public.

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Posted: 6th Jun 2012 07:08 Edited at: 6th Jun 2012 07:35
I almost forgot, the music for one of my upcoming games.
Michael J. likes to play, you have to run the King of Pops play den, and that means being child friendly, collect the puppies and candies to pimp your fun house in a child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, meets 70s child education film don't talk to strangers kind of way.
Garry Glitter, you have made your musical comeback, Black Glitter is going in.
http://www.shockwave-sound.com/track/11657
Track listing with this 'Glitter style' music tags it as - Confident and respectful.

Media gods to worship, they do a trump and cry 'smell the bloom of my roses'. Reminds me of child entertainer, Peewee Herman and the outage in the gay prawn theater, I think I've got that right, It defiantly involved salty seamen anyway, and I can confirm they was defiantly from Iceland.


Talking of celebrity culture. I had a game 7 years ago that almost got publisher funding to the tune of 1.5 million to finish the project. I brain farted everything from the depths of my dark imagination into that shadow self of societies future ruin of a game, one shadow being, The Church of Celebrity Worship. In the future the only gods left are celebrities. The 21st century religion. Too bad I'm the fallen one, never been one to bow to gods...

Now go and listen to Black Glitter while at the same time looking at this image.

Do you feel like fallen one yet my children?


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