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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 02:35
I was gunna mention here that I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this, but I suppose "Geek" Culture gave that away. Somehow I am unsurprised at the lack of interest for one of the biggest sporting events out there.

However, after watching the Opening Ceremony in London, I have to say I was pretty amazed at the scale of what they achieved, and the amount of outside-the-box thinking. Sadly only iPlayer has footage of the event, and YouTube uploads are few and far between, and mostly fakes.

I'm wondering if anyone knows of a method of watching iPlayer overseas, as BBC block most countries I link to. A pity, as I personally think that a moment like the Olympics is worth sharing. My favourite moment being the Industrial Revolution section, and its climax. Incredibly clever, and very symbolic.

Has anyone else got moments they'd like to share? Other toppers have to be Mr Bean and the James Bond/Queen arrival, of course.

Just wanted to put this out to both fellow Brits and other nationals too. I feel we as a country don't really celebrate ourselves too much, and find it brash. Nice to have something where you can sit down and say, "wow, we kinda are pretty awesome."

Britain needs more public holidays about its culture, so we can stop moaning about the recession, unemployment and other gossipy stuff...
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 02:45
Havent followed a single olympic game, ever.. that's not likely to change - i might occationally watch a few mins with my dad but... thats just for socializing, i dont pay any attention really x)



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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 03:01
Watching in the US is pretty much pointless. It's all delayed, too many commercials and not enough coverage. Personally, I've always been more a fan of winter games anyhow... Summer games bore me.
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 03:08
I've watched almost everything. I like sport, I like challenges. I like people that like challenges. I like people that achieve their goals in life. I feel empathy with those people on the screen. It's great!

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 03:24
I've only watched Women's Beach Volleyball and the Opening Ceremony so far. Just too busy at work to get time to watch it when I get home. D:
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 03:45
I'm following Canada and North Korea this year. North Korea is doing pretty well, considering their small team. Canada just has one bronze medal so far.


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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 03:49 Edited at: 30th Jul 2012 03:50
I liked the part where they mixed up the North/South Korea flags. I bet they were happy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/football/9428873/London-2012-Olympics-North-Korea-flag-blunder-an-embarrassment-admits-BOA-chairman-Colin-Moynihan.html



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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 05:43 Edited at: 30th Jul 2012 05:57
i thought about starting a thread on london 2012, as well, but the last one didn't go very far, even though a number of us do watch.

as far as the delays here in the US, i don't mind. after missing a lot of LIVE sports events/playoffs/etc in the past (due to work hours, etc), i'm pretty good at pretending replays are live. ie, i get into them almost as much (and i don't watch/listen to the news much, so i rarely hear the results before i do)

i watched parts of the opening ceremony (i used it as a distraction from watching the giants take a beating). it was grand, and london should be proud of the feat. but, with bejing's opening ceremony still impressing me, it was difficult for me to offer any oooohs or ahhhhhs toward this one.

i've watched both men's and women's volleyball, mostly. it's good to see the US teams faulter and be threatened, at times, tho they went on to win the matches i saw.

i tend to ignore most of the olympic "news"/drama and simply appreciate what i do see as elite athleticism (tho i do tend to root for underdog countries and, especially, if they're facing the u.s. ).

finally, i'll say i'm finding the official website clunky and hard navigate. it's a put-off and i don't want to go back (but i'm sure i will...).

good stuff. go USA!

btw, the "logo" - what happened there?


i'm not feeling it.


but, the mascots are kinda cool



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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 09:06 Edited at: 30th Jul 2012 09:09
I wouldn't mind picking up some track & field and artistic gymnastics. But between TV here not being worth having, commercials, hosts trying to analyze sports (because that's something that needs analyzing), time differences, and work hours it ain't happening. I did get to see bits and pieces of the opening ceremony though, and thought it was done well.

I don't catch too much of Summer Olympics now anyway, preferring the Winter Olympics instead. The bobsledding, skeleton, hockey, ski jumping, and that funny thing where they sweep the ice interest me much more. This reminds me, what do they call track & field now anyway? You know, shotput, pole vaulting, &&c. I looked for it and couldn't find anything.

Rugby would be awesome to have in the Olympics. Much more interesting than the stop-go-stop snoozefest of American football and the WTF of soccer.

Quote: "Other toppers have to be Mr Bean"

Yeah, he's always amusing to watch.

Quote: "I feel we as a country don't really celebrate ourselves too much, and find it brash. Nice to have something where you can sit down and say, "wow, we kinda are pretty awesome.""

As someone who has spent quite a bit of time in UK territories I'd say y'all are pretty cool.

Quote: "btw, the "logo""

I'm not feeling it either. Looks like a creation of a 5 year old or one of those elephants that paints.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 09:29 Edited at: 30th Jul 2012 09:30
Double post

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 09:29
My friend showed me this the other day http://www.protestlondon2012.com/10reasons.html

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Quote: "My friend showed me this the other day http://www.protestlondon2012.com/10reasons.html"

Ah, one of those boo-hoo sites.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 09:59
Considering darts and beach volleyball are included, why not paintball. Imagine how awesome it would be, nation's special forces (or just a select group of military or shooters) taking each other on in an arena of death

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 13:04
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 13:20
Bah, I don't really care much about the olympics. I hate sports, and the Polish team is already losing.

And after watching the opening ceremony Mind = Blown.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 14:49
"Official Protestors of London 2012"

Eight people who look like an album cover you find in a 10p bargain bin.

Seriously, it kinda annoys me how people seem to want to sell Buckingham Palace to make it into a Sainsbury's or something, because it costs too much to keep. :/
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 16:36
Also, it doesn't mean I agree with the link I posted, I just thought it was interesting so I shared it.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 19:49
Am I the only one who thought this year's opening ceremony was fairly lacking? That entire part where they have this couple dancing around the stadium texting each other seemed really lame, the majority of that part of the ceremony was simply a big building with video being projected on it while people danced around. I think the only really unique and noticeable part this year was the way London handled the lighting of the flame, with the peddles raising upward to form one giant flame.

Another thing my friends and I couldn't help but wonder about was when Paul McCartney sang Hey Jude. Did anyone else notice that for some reason the song (along with vocals) began playing out of a speaker before Paul even opened his mouth? It continued to play before he played for about 5 seconds and then presumably the speaker got shut off by one of the crew. At first I thought it might have been the delay of Paul singing versus the audio being output at the far end of the stadium and then being picked up from the mics by Paul after he had sang it, but after a second time watching I swear it seems like the audio plays before he even opens his mouth. This tells me that they were planning on doing some sort of lip sync?

Anyways, that's my two cents. I really thought they could've done a much better job in terms of choreography than what they did.
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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 21:38
I was a skeptic about the olympics, because it seemed we have had some issues leading up to it and throw in some cynicism in there and given how much it cost the taxpayers and how much advertisers were throwing The Olympics down our throat, I couldn't wait for the fact for it to be all over. And I couldn't wait for my week in Germany (heading off tomorrow) where I don't have to be aware the Olympics are even happening. Yes, I am a flipping miserable sod.

But the opening ceremony had my surprised and I enjoyed it overall.

The ceremony was 4 hours long and the part you are describing is just the part of the ceremony representing the modern age and the use of technology. As for the choreography, from what I understand, like in the NHS scene, they weren't actually real dancers but actual NHS doctors and nurses and I don't know if there were professional dancers used elsewhere. I've not really reading into it. We have much better dancers out there.

The entire thing was meant to be about British History and celebrating our own endeavours, which including the history of British music, hence the big medley with those dancers.

Personally, I didn't like that bit, but it does manage to portray the current generation. I think Danny Boyle's aim was to try and have something for everyone and any computer geeks here or computer scientists, they had Tim Berners-Lee. He talked about the invention of the world wide web, sure it wasn't exactly a geektacular presentation, but at least it's a geekgasm. Yes, I have just butchered the English language there. Would have been sweet to see other British figures in the world of computing, but to be fair, the ceremony has a LOT of ground to cover.

I enjoyed the industrial revolution(reminded me of William Blake...and Lord of the Rings, but it seems there's a meme surrounding that now), though I thought it cheesy that it was building up to the forging of the olympic rings. Admittedly, I liked the little James Bond sketch with the Queen and I think like many, I enjoyed the Mr Bean sketch. When they said they were going to play Chariots of Fire, I groaned because it's such a cliched thing for the Olympics that it just seemed too ordinary, then I saw Rowan Atkinson and was pleasantly surprised. It's bean years since I've watched Mr Bean.

The NHS/Storytime villains scene was very weird, but it was one of the highlights for me but I thought it and the Industrial Revolution needed something and that's Pink Floyd, both scenes would have been fantastic with some Pink Floyd tracks playing the background, I am glad they did use Pink Floyd somewhere in the ceremony, but they reserved it for the fireworks. Regardless I think the music they did use worked.

As for Paul McCartney, I stopped watching half way through, the fireworks was the end of the ceremony for me, what I did hear sounded live to me, but it is possible he mimed it, which would have been a shame for his fans if he did. It's also possible there was a delay. I didn't notice, but then I didn't pay attention. I am not a Beatles fan and Hey Jude is not a song I like. However, I am a Beatallica fan (Beatles songs parodied in the style of Metallica) and Hey Dude(warning: language) for me is an improvement. People might hate me for suggesting it because the Beatles have been a massive influence in the world of music and were talented, but it's really down to me not enjoying their music more than anything.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 22:51
I liked it all apart from ages of Flag Waving. It looked like Paul McCartney was going to mime, and then his mime backfired, so he sang live. His voice was scratchy, maybe he had a cold.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 23:28
Quote: "Am I the only one who thought this year's opening ceremony was fairly lacking? That entire part where they have this couple dancing around the stadium texting each other seemed really lame, the majority of that part of the ceremony was simply a big building with video being projected on it while people danced around. I think the only really unique and noticeable part this year was the way London handled the lighting of the flame, with the peddles raising upward to form one giant flame."

Completely agree. I actually found the opening ceremony quite lame. The only part I really enjoyed were the massive towers coming out of the ground and then the giant flame.

I get it that it was representing British history, but just because it represents something great, doesn't mean it was executed great. In fact, I'm quite surprised at how many people thought it was so amazing.

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I'm kind of annoyed at the olympics in the gymnastics department. I realize right now we're only watching the qualifications, but I really hope to see some more risky tricks. I get bored of seeing two double arabian passes (tucked and piked) when we know that there are some way bigger tricks that the women have thrown over the years. I haven't seen a single double layout, full twisting double layout, or arabian double layout yet. I've seen quite a few double-double's though, which are really nice, but I'm silently hoping a girl lands something not yet seen this year, like a whip to full twisting double layout, or a double full in back out, or something like that.

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Posted: 30th Jul 2012 23:33
Quote: "It's all delayed, too many commercials and not enough coverage"


In the UK, the BBC is doing a great job. We have 50 channels (including 23 standard + 23HD just for the Olympics), so you can watch every event. No ads, good details of the participants and the rules of the sports interjected, real sports-people doing the commentary, and of course it is all free

The opening ceremony I thought was great. Total change to Beijing, anf no fighting over whether the cauldron-lighter was a worthy subject. The texters was a bit bizarre, but the way the entire event told a story was brilliant.

Paul McCartney...oh dear!

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I liked the opening ceremony, though what was happening "story wise" made no sense to me...
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I personally thought the ceremony was all over the place, first you see the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz wearing black ghillie suits, and then you have a giant blow up gremlin looking thing.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2012 01:13 Edited at: 31st Jul 2012 01:13
in sweden we have "Kanal 1" or channel 1, which is completly free and ad free, which.. pretty much exists for this kind of events... and news

edit: We do get it live ~~ (not so weird, considering we live 1 hour away.. xD)



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Posted: 31st Jul 2012 02:55
I think the reason British people seem to be more impressed than those from overseas is because we've spent the last what...five years hearing about this until we all become absolutely certain that it would be a horrific embarrassment.

I admit that the bit with music, texting and stuff did kinda slip off my radar of care. Really my highlights are the Industrial Revolution part, and the Olympic flame lighting. The part abotu Children's Literature/NHS was...well, you can't say it was...outside the box?

However, due to the fact that we can't kinda force people to perform and practise incessantly, and kinda had to use staff fairly and humanely, we were never going to beat Beijing. I understand a lot of controversy got dug up about treatment and things brushed under the rug.

Plus China kinda bled the money pot dry for that show, whereas we have voters watching every penny. :/
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Being completely serious here - I enjoyed our opening ceremony far more than Beijing's. Don't get me wrong, Beijing was a fantastic spectactle but that's all it was really, it felt so clinical. I couldn't help but think throughout the whole thing, yeah this is really good, but this is easy to do if you've got a population of a billion people who you can practically press into slavery. There was no celebration of the actual Chinese people, whereas in London there was much more a focus on the individual - The NHS section, the two party-goers with the phone, the seven young athletes lighting the flame etc.

The Queen herself couldn't have looked more depressed, though.

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AHAHHAWAHHAHSAHSHA THAT PIC, MADE MY DAY <3 fits so well



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Posted: 31st Jul 2012 04:09 Edited at: 31st Jul 2012 04:10
This one's my personal favourite.



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I love that Image Not Found icon too!

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Quote: "ranting about stuff I can't barely do on a tumbletrack"

Haha. I know the feeling. I don't know if I can do any tumbling/floor exercises nowadays. Used to be fairly good at it.

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I saw that pic a few days ago. Amusing but sad, I kinda felt bad for The Queen.




I wasn't impressed with Beijing's opening ceremony exactly for the reasons some of you have pointed out. It's easy to do what they did when you can press people into service; and when you have a culture that's been beaten down to become lambs for the State.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2012 08:11 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2012 08:11
I really enjoyed the opening ceremony and loved the music that was playing in the background during the industrial revolution. I'm not sure who it was by, but it was pretty cool. I didn't understand the whole NHS and dancing kids & nannies part, but overall it was great. The dancing was good too

What annoyed me was the Canadian media was following the larger countries and talking about boring anecdotes all the while skipping some of the other countries. They completely bypassed Japan, for example.


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The NHS part was about the NHS, naturally, and our Children's Literature. Reason it was partially Peter Pan-inspired was because the author of that book gave the rights to the Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital.
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I'm the greatest Olympic Badminton player of all time, and I can prove it. I can absolutely thrash these Olympic contenders. I'll take them on 1 vs 2...

http://www.businessinsider.com/badminton-teams-disqualified-olympics-video-2012-8

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