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NIlooc223
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Can a mod please delete the thread thats called yolo from earlier? Or at least delete the message with a mod edit? Thanks

This is just a request do please lock after you delete the thread/post
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Law catching up with you? *round of applause*

From what I understand, Mods can't delete threads, only send a request to TGC.

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NIlooc223
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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 00:23
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Well can't you mod edit what I said ?
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I think that's up to them really... Why should they have to get involved in covering up for you if you go around posting evidence of committing crimes on the internet?

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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 01:31 Edited at: 9th Aug 2012 01:44
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Quote: "Why should they have to get involved in covering up for you if you go around posting evidence of committing crimes on the internet?"


Cause YOLO Bro?! He got SWAG!



If that's what the kids are saying now adays.

Anyways...

why not just edit all the posts in the thread to remove the content?


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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 01:33
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Not to cover up I'm not even in trouble I just don't want that stuff on the Internet just mod edit the messages please
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Quote: "I think that's up to them really... Why should they have to get involved in covering up for you if you go around posting evidence of committing crimes on the internet?"


well IMO it would be kind of a dick move to lock it and not remove main post by request :/



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NIlooc223
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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 01:50
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Thank you for supporting me quik cause that really didn't make much of a difference if you just lock it... I mean it's a simple request that would take seconds to do. So please edit the post... Thanks again
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Hmm, this seems like a lot of trouble for a petty crime, I predict more sinister happenings are afoot. What’s your game kid? Crack? Smack? Heroin? Aspirin?


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Wow you really think I do drugs? Exact reason I wasnt it removed... Im a good kid just made a mistake and don't give me crap cause everyone makes mistakes... But really I would never do drugs...
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Go into the thread...

Edit your posts to say, "Pinkie is best pony," or similarly off-topic stuff.

Hey presto, you're no longer a digital thief, and anyone who looks back will simply assume that it was locked cos you talked about pony outside the thread/quarantine zone.

No mods required. No deletions or other such fuss.
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CG: is that actually possible to do in a locked thread?



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NIlooc223
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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 03:33
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No I tried and I'm talking about a different thread...
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Alright, well then the mods can do that.

Or you can just let it disappear. I mean, no offense, but no-one's going to actually care, it'll be off the front page of Geek Culture within a day, beyond the point of care in a few.

I mean seriously, how many people do you think are going to look up your profile, then look up your threads, then look up that topic, and then read it...

AND THEN!...actually give a monkey's about it afterwards?
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Ummmmm the school? Duhhhh
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...

What?

I'm pretty sure your school doesn't post on TGC.

And if you accessed this via school, and are scared they might find out, they will already have cached copies of this webpage for future reference - meaning that they will always have a copy of that post you made, no matter what TGC do.

They also happen to not care though, kid. Seriously, the IT techs are probably too busy spilling coffee in your school server and hitting on the English teachers...
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Quote: "Wow you really think I do drugs? Exact reason I wasnt it removed... Im a good kid just made a mistake and don't give me crap cause everyone makes mistakes... But really I would never do drugs... "


It was a joke… the hint was with the addition of aspirin to the list


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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 04:04
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No I did not access it through school... It's summer no school... So your saying the school could care less?
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How the hell would they find that post? :')


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Hi.

(1) You put it up there, deal with the consequences.
(2) You bringing this thread up made me want to read the locked thread. Since this thread isn't locked, it'll get bumped, and people will look for the locked thread if they're unfamiliar.
(3) "YOLO" but it's better to do so being as not stupid as you can. Congratulations, you just cost your school money and time. Which cuts into education budgets. Which causes a lower quality of education. Of course, this is only minimally so, but regardless, it does not speak well of your character, if you've even developed one yet.
(4) You deserve to get caught, because you did it.

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Ok What you said is all true araon miller...
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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 04:11
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Also, you were dumb.

Put your mistake behind you, and don't be an idiot next time. It's the adult way.

You'll make a heck of a lot of mistakes in life, kid. Many of them don't have the option of deletion or demanding everyone forget them. Because of the spectacle created in this thread, I read the other one, and no matter whether you delete that thread or not, there are still so many people who know what you did.

But we don't care, we haven't demanded you be banned, and no-one in this plane of existence even cares.

Just leave the subject behind you, and be smarter next time. For your sake, kid.
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Thanks for the good advice... I just have such a perfect record in school and stuff and was afraid to see it ruined... But I gusse your right I should just move on... It was a mistake a very dumb one...
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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 04:47 Edited at: 9th Aug 2012 04:53
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CoffeeGrunt is right. I'm assuming you didn't admit it to the school? They must have found out they were used?

If you put them back and they haven't found out, you must tell someone immediately. If there is a fire, and the extinguishers are empty, you could be in some really serious trouble.
If someone dies/gets hurt because they are empty, then that would be pretty awful.

I'd probably say you should fess up to the school. Say you didn't know what you were doing was breaking the law. You'll only get a fine (to cover the cost of having them replaced).

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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 05:10
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No the school knows about it
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I'd be more concerned about your mates with photos of you doing it than TGC website.

realistically, what you did was stupid, immature and illegal...

However I did far worse when I was a youngster and if that's the worst thing you have ever done you're not so bad.

If the kids know they will blab, it's what kids do. better to come forward if that is the case.

better a fine and detention than expulsion for break and enter.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2012 06:59
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Quote: "If you put them back and they haven't found out, you must tell someone immediately. If there is a fire, and the extinguishers are empty, you could be in some really serious trouble."


As an EMS responder myself, I can tell you this is very true. If those extinguishers are empty and something happens, it can come back to bite you big time, even your parents. We've witnessed this first hand ourselves with empty extinguishers, and can tell you the tremendous amount of trouble the parents and their kids faced because of something like this.

My suggestion- notify the school. You will face far less consequences than trying to hide it and a more serious problem arising. And don't bet that just because this is on a TGC Geek Chat that nothing can happen. We EMS people are everywhere, in all walks of life. All it takes is a few phone calls and the world is suddenly smaller.


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Blackfox... Very well said but as I already said the school knows.

Also thanks for being and ems responder because thats a very serious job and can be very difficult I respect you much blackfox.
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Quote: "well IMO it would be kind of a dick move to lock it and not remove main post by request :/"


Opinions......everyone's got one. The "dick move" was to deplete the school's fire extinguishers in an illegal act (B&E), and then put them back empty.

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My opinion is that if thread will be removed then TGC will be regarded as concealer.

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WTF guys. Is TGC the "making a mess for some janitors" police? He already said they know about it, there's no threat of any danger. He's apologized for the trouble. Unless TGC is going to go and call the police on this guy, really they should delete the thread to protect his future. Or do we all not care about kids futures if they messed up at all?

TGC is a company that sells products to children but when it comes to protecting their futures I see where they draw the line.

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Do I really live in a world where breaking into a school and depleting fire extinguishers is simply defined as "making a mess for some janitors"?

We only have his word that the school knows. I hope they do and I hope he has to pay the costs of refilling them.

Actions have consequences. If you don't want the world to know about the stupid things you've done, don't post them on the Internet!

calm your breasts and stop picking on him.
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Quote: "Unless TGC is going to go and call the police on this guy, really they should delete the thread to protect his future."


We're not lawyers, but my guess is that if someone tells you they committed a crime and asked you to tamper with the evidence, then you are implicated. I will not be deleting the thread.



I am a school governor and know how much it costs to deal with "minor" issues, in terms of money, time, educational cost to the pupils and in some cases, the psychological cost to pupils.

For example to sort the depleted fire extinguishers could be around £500 for a maintenance callout. That's the same as hiring a professional to teach a class of 30 children for a day. That's 30 children missing the opportunity to learn new life or creative skills.

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It's all fun and games until a classmate gets trapped in a room with nothing but choking smoke and empty fire extinguishers.

For the record, if I emptied the CO2 ones at work, for example, I'd be fired, and if something happened, jail. If someone died, manslaughter.

Learn the lesson now, before you grow up to the age where the punishments go further than detentions and money. Doing this again in adult life will end in a death for someone else, and a cell for you. Can you live with that? No, I imagine not.

Again, fix your problem, don't hide it. Be smarter next time.
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I'm not saying what he did was right or not. I'm not saying cover up the evidence either. If all your guys feel so strongly about it, call the police. It just seems to me like you guys are sitting on your ivory tower trolling this guy just because you can. It's not your place to punish him by leaving the post for some future embarrasment. Let him face the consequences now so he can say he did his crime and he had his punishment, or hide it away and let him be.

You locked his post so he can't even apologize on the thread he foolishly started himself.

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Because if this kid applies for a job in the future, they might google him, and find a post by NIlooc223?

This is just some stuff on the internet, and stuff on the internet gets forgotten about really quickly... it's not worth worrying about, maybe if you keep your nose clean for a couple of weeks, you could change your username, then pretty much break the link between yourself and that post.

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@Van B
AFAIK if user on forum changes his name, it changes everywhere, in old posts too. No?

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I don't see why it shouldn't be deleted when mods would usually honour such a request.



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MrH, Hmmmm, good point - I'm not sure how it works.

Ben, It's incredibly rare for us to delete a thread on request, and it would depend on the reasons for deleting it - usually we'd be asked to delete a dupe thread, or a badly constructed WIP thread - I don't think we've ever had to, or been asked to delete a thread because it provides evidence of a criminal act!

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My opinion exactly.

That said:

Quote: "This is just some stuff on the internet, and stuff on the internet gets forgotten about really quickly... it's not worth worrying about, maybe if you keep your nose clean for a couple of weeks, you could change your username, then pretty much break the link between yourself and that post."


That's just it, it's not a huge or unusual crime, if he were brought to court if he'd have half a brain he'd plead guilty, and if TGC is so concerned about making the info available to discover the perpetrators then maybe they should just call the police instead of leaving it here like some sort of troll.

And you'd be amazed what kind of stuff comes back on you. Pirates from the 80s posting about on usenet getting found out now that they're 30/40/older and hold respectable jobs

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It's all pretty simple really (from the AUP):

Quote: "3.14 We will treat breaches of any of the above rules seriously. We will cooperate with all law enforcement agencies should they contact us regarding breach of any law. When dealing with a law enforcement agency we will hand over any information we have about you if requested."


In short; we won't be removing the thread. Lesson learned here: don't post things you don't want the authorities to find out about on an open Forum Board.

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Duplicate post.

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Removing the thread is like removing finger prints. I had a cup of coffee at your house, I told the police I was in Spain, can you please remove the finger prints from my cup. No, leave the post up.

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At least he had deleted pictures.

I'm not particularly versed in American law - what he could face for it? I'm curisous.

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I am sorry for double post.

I have noticed that some threads locked twice. Why?

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I think this thread has taken the correct path, but I do have to add... Other than a few TGC employees, none of us know who you are. They might not even know depending on how you filled out your personal information with your account. I don't think it is very likely this will be the place that your school discovers you. It is far more likely some local guilty faces will fess up for you if you don't beat them to it.

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No forum has any obligation to keep threads that may or may not be used as evidence in the future. If they're really concerned, they can keep a backup of it.

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Quote: "So your saying the school could care less?"


Quote: "your"


Someone should tell the school about that.
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Oh, I forget to mention: google cache for great justice!

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Quote: "No forum has any obligation to keep threads that may or may not be used as evidence in the future. If they're really concerned, they can keep a backup of it."


I agree with that. But how much do fire extingushers cost?
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