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Kezzla
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Posted: 17th Aug 2012 18:41
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Hi all,

I have just bought a new motherboard and now my focus is moving towards my next upgrade. This will be my graphics card.

I would like some advice with regard to my next purchase.

I definitely want an Nvidia card and a high end one at that.

I have been looking into the cards they have available and I see some that I like which are designed for 3d modelling work that have awesome specs.

I am wondering whether there is any difference between the highest end gaming graphics card and the high end video editing cards.

they both have the same directX and as far as i can see the only difference is the extreme video ram advantage of the video rendering card.(and of course the price)

pretty much my aim is to have stupidly powerful video processing so anything I am working on now will still be ok in the future.

For my own projects I want extreme scenery for my own pleasure, and while i do want to create games for everyone, I really want to see what can be created with a top end rig.

so long story short,

are the video editing cards the same as the gaming cards?

Is there some difference that makes them unsuitable for gaming?

any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

kezzla

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bitJericho
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Posted: 17th Aug 2012 19:03 Edited at: 17th Aug 2012 19:05
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if you're doing rendering/modelling, yeah you'll probably want an editing card.

I've heard in the past that they are inferior in every way to gaming cards for gaming, however, if what you're saying is true, that may not be the case anymore or that may not be the case for the cards you're looking at. I would investigate carefully. Maybe even call up nvidia and ask.

They do make gaming cards in the 600 dollar range with high amounts of ram. You may want to check equivelently priced cards (not just equivelent models)

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PAGAN_old
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Posted: 19th Aug 2012 05:53
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Quote: "pretty much my aim is to have stupidly powerful video processing so anything I am working on now will still be ok in the future."


Sounds like a plan, you seem to be my kind of guy

Why not dish out a few thousand bucks on a quadro or fire GL. They might not be the best in terms of gaming but with all the crappy games coming out latley there are only a few that can give your hardware a decent challenge and a good quadro and fire GL should be more than enough to handle anything plus they can do all kinds of crazy 3d CGI rendering and vector graphics and whutnot.

Speaking of quadros, i am not sure about this but a friend of mine recentley built a new machine, He got a GTX 560 Ti with 2 gigs of ram. from what he told me Ti modifications are sortof a hybrid between a standard gaming videocard and a bit of quadro power as a bonus for people who work in photoshop and stuff. He also told me that there is some software out there for Ti modification models that make your system recognize a Ti card as a small quadro. So that would be a cheaper solution. Infact i realized i got ripped off for paying $270 for a 2Gb GTX460GS last year. my friend with the GTX 560 Ti payed about $200 for his and its way better.


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MrValentine
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Posted: 19th Aug 2012 10:33
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Quote: "Infact i realized i got ripped off for paying $270 for a 2Gb GTX460GS last year. my friend with the GTX 560 Ti payed about $200 for his and its way better."


ouch...

Quote: "Speaking of quadros, i am not sure about this but a friend of mine recentley built a new machine, He got a GTX 560 Ti with 2 gigs of ram. from what he told me Ti modifications are sortof a hybrid between a standard gaming videocard and a bit of quadro power as a bonus for people who work in photoshop and stuff. He also told me that there is some software out there for Ti modification models that make your system recognize a Ti card as a small quadro."


Very good to know, possibly find this on guru3D I suspect...
Quote: "NVIDIA BIOS Editor 6.04 (NiBiTor) "
is what you might be after... but the links on guru3D seem to be broken...

And with this baby out... http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-660ti

I think I will be waiting for the 700 Ti series before I dish out...

I had an Geforce 3 Ti card in the past and can only say... they are simply amazing cards! highly durable and robustly built...

I would say get the 560 Ti or 660 Ti...

If you want something to dig into this...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/332498-15-evga-quadro-2000-4000 has some detailed debate on the question... personally if I had the cash, I would go down the Quadro route, as mentioned earlier, games released these days are not worth the money, instead these cards [Quadro] allow you to work faster in creating them, and video edit too... as well as graphic editing such as Photoshop... I believe the reason is a cleaner pipeline, more dedicated and built for purpose than FPS, and much improved drivers... compared to the Geforce range of drivers... I remember one time I tried installing the Quadro drivers and they did have some interesting options, that was like a decade ago...

Observe the vast difference in drivers for the Quadro vs the GeForce here... http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk

Also Jerico2day can you email me, got something you might want to know...

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Posted: 19th Aug 2012 18:45
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Quote: "is what you might be after... but the links on guru3D seem to be broken..."


i dont think its the bios editor, from what ive been told it sounds like it dosent need to have an edited bios for it to work like a quadro, then again, i dont know.


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Posted: 20th Aug 2012 11:52
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i dunno why they gotta make it so hard to figure out what features are available on a card. Intel makes it easy, they tell you exactly what your particular model of chip has

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Kezzla
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Posted: 21st Aug 2012 06:28
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ok, thanks everyone, I now have a slightly better clue about the video card market.

it seems that the quatro's are extremely accurate and display correctly what is meant to be drawn to camera without exception. This being the reason they are used for 3d movie rendering.

the GTX series sacrifices frame accuracy for blistering frame-rates.

So If i want to design computer games for the future... it is still a bit of a tossup but i guess they will be played on gtx style cards, so it will be better to go with excessive frame-rate over accuracy because it is what the games will be played on.


the ram is a big selling point for me, because i want a lot of models on screen and a good frame rate.

I've been looking at the new GTX 690, It has a lot of video ram, similar to the sizes I was looking at in the quatro range. while it is a little pricey and something I will have to save for, I think the game world that could be produced with it would be wonderful. Add in an SLI link and there is a monster.

once again everyone, thank you for all of your insight and valuable information.

Greatly appreciated.

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