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Geek Culture / Gah! YouTube stop playing the same Advert every few minutes...

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Libervurto
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Posted: 1st Mar 2013 20:07 Edited at: 1st Mar 2013 20:28
Quote: "fairly sure if adblock did not exist, MOST of those people would watch it anyway"

Maybe so, but adblock does exist, it does no one any good to pretend it doesn't.

Quote: "It's such a primitive, pre-internet way of thinking. "Just throw an ad on it.""

I agree.

It's appropriate that this popped up today:


Also consider the Hotline Miami piracy story. The developers actively supported the pirates:
Quote: "He just felt he didn't want people playing the buggy version of his game however they got it. He wanted them to get the patch. He basically said, 'I'm not going to criticize this, it's a fact of life. It would be nice if guys could find it within themselves to pay for it, but that's the world I'm in, so you know, you just have to take it for what it is.'"

I would go even further than that and say release the damn thing for free! It's digital media, why would you restrict your fan base with a price tag? Get your game out there and "let people pay", as Amanda Palmer said. Piracy prevention is such an outdated idea, it made sense when we had physical discs.

We need to stop treating people like animals that need to be caged. The internet has freed up so many of the difficulties we had in the past, regarding distribution, promotion, funding, etc. so it's kind of frustrating to see so few companies actually grasping the change and accepting that the world has opened up. (It's mainly the old dinosaur empires like 20th Century Fox that are behind. Most new companies get it.)


Quik
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Posted: 1st Mar 2013 21:31
Quote: "Maybe so, but adblock does exist, it does no one any good to pretend it doesn't.
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Quote: "Those people were never going to pay for it anyway "


were never going to pay for it anyway

the way I understood that was

"even if adblock didnt exist, people wouldnt pay for it"

so I answered to that..



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Insert Name Here
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Posted: 1st Mar 2013 22:02
Quote: "Yet I've had adverts roll for things like Wreck-It-Ralph, and actually watched all two minutes or so of it before a video. "


I think you're right, the way to go is certainly to show adverts people are going to be interested in - after all, that's a win-win right? The only thing is, you would have to agree to your information being collected which some people see as dodgy... it's a complicated problem.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2013 22:14
I do believe youtube know enough about what youre interested in already...~~



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Posted: 4th Mar 2013 02:01
I haven't read everything here but whatever Thraxas said in that one post of his, I can't agree more with it!
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Posted: 4th Mar 2013 21:37
My YouTUbe account has spent years tracking my viewing history to see what sort of videos I love.

Could it really be so simple to check and see, "Ah, Freddie Wong, FPS game videos and such. There's a high probability they'd fit the demographic for this new action movie."

Or refining genres, etc, etc. YouTube has that. It also knows that I'm already running Chrome, so that's Google's own wasted money there, no-one else's.

YouTube can get me a fairly reliable list of videos to watch, (mostly game soundtracks and action stuff.) Why not advertise things like, "Oh, you regularly watch a playlist of the Crysis 3 soundtrack? How about this deal on the game/the soundtrack just released?"

I win because I get less annoying adverts, the advertised products win because I might, just might, actually buy their stuff.
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Posted: 5th Mar 2013 12:12 Edited at: 5th Mar 2013 12:14
There are many conflicting thoughts about this issue; now I am not talking about good advertising, adverts about good products, one product at a time, not the same product all day.

What I was talking about were adverts like the one I posted, adverts about wedding dresses, adverts about church, stuff that I never search for; adverts that repeat over and over; 5 seconds, sometimes 15 seconds before you can skip, 30 seconds, sometimes an advert lasts 10 minutes if you leave it running whilst not at the desk...

All I am saying is if you ever need to run a presentation at work and you need to use YouTube video for reference; please please do not do it... You will get made into a laughing stock. Use some other site or record something off TV. I have seen a serious presentation make use of YouTube and this happened, the person did not think.

I am 100% certain these YouTube and Google guys have lost their minds with this, turning a blind eye.

I think they indirectly supported the Ad-Blocker industry. Take away the irritation, then there is no need for a remedy.

What you state is common sense CoffeeGrunt; so I suppose it would be too difficult for them to figure up...

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Posted: 5th Mar 2013 12:27
Quote: "All I am saying is if you ever need to run a presentation at work and you need to use YouTube video for reference; please please do not do it... You will get made into a laughing stock. Use some other site or record something off TV. I have seen a serious presentation make use of YouTube and this happened, the person did not think."


or just preload the video before the presentation



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Posted: 5th Mar 2013 16:40
Quik... If you preload the video, adverts can still play. It knows what you are doing...

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Posted: 5th Mar 2013 16:44
play the ad before the presentation, the video wont play anymore ads unless its a multiple ad video.



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Chris Tate
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Posted: 5th Mar 2013 19:30
It can sometimes play an additional advert. I've played through an advert, paused the video, gone to make a drink, return, pressed play; presto!! New advert.

I do understand what you are suggesting; it is not I who uses Youtube videos in presentations... Go ahead and do that if you want to, if you have a number of videos to play and you have enough time to play through each advert and nobody asks you to rewind the video.. "Rewind? erm, hmm I can't really do that, sorry sir"

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