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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Game distribution

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ionstream
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 20:36
Yeah sorta sounds like you have disdain for everyone on this forum and the people who would be using your site, so it doesn't seem like a very good sell to me. If developers are using your site then they are your costumers, so they probably won't want to sign on to someone's site that just wants to get quick cash.

Quik
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 20:40
Quote: "The site is for me. You guys are not my customers, and neither are you collaborators. You are developers who want one more place to spam your games. As the number of games on my site grows, the popularity of my games grows, and I get rich."


We're not your customers, and yet you try and sell your idea to us?

We're not collaborators, but even if we were, it wouldnt be collaboration - because you would be the dictator.



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TheComet
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 20:43
Even your slogan is "let's make each others dreams come true". That's a clear statement of collaboration.

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Matty H
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 20:47
The games on your site seem pretty expensive for what they are.

Perhaps at this early stage you could give them away for free, then sell some better games later on, either ones you make yourself or other peoples.

Good luck.

Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 21:17
Quote: "We're not your customers, and yet you try and sell your idea to us?

We're not collaborators, but even if we were, it wouldnt be collaboration - because you would be the dictator."

I am providing something which you guys need and want. Beyond the basic idea, however, I can't promise anything else.

Quote: "Even your slogan is "let's make each others dreams come true". That's a clear statement of collaboration."

I am making your dreams come true by giving your games the recognition they deserve. You are making my dreams come true by drawing people to the site, which makes purchases of my games (and yours) more likely.

Quote: "The games on your site seem pretty expensive for what they are.

Perhaps at this early stage you could give them away for free, then sell some better games later on, either ones you make yourself or other peoples."

Pretty expensive for what they are, huh? And yet you'd pay the same money for the same thing on Android. No, I don't think I'll be giving anything away for free.

Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 28th Apr 2013 21:56
Quote: "The site is for me. You guys are not my customers, and neither are you collaborators."


Then what was the purpose of this? See below quotes from yourself.

Quote: "I've been a part of this community for a while, now. Something that we have all been needing is a distribution channel for our games. I am working to satisfy that need."


Quote: " If anybody is currently selling their games somehow, just give me a link to where people can purchase them and I will add them to the site. If enough games get on the store, it will generate interest, more people will buy my games, I will be able to afford a better website, then more people will buy my games (and your games too, of course).
"


Quote: "You guys use Steam, Desura, Origin, etc. Those game distribution services revolve around a client that one has to download and install, an account balance that one has to maintain, and digital rights management. What I am working towards is something more like GOG, where people can just go to the website and buy a game. Where I'm at right now is basically just a promotional site that links to e-commerce sites and provides a search feature and nice big shiny graphics. I am not charging anything for the use of this service, because the way I see it, your games help to promote my games. "


You were offering your website as a place to generate publicity, you compared it to other services. You pretty much suggested we had no where better to go. You wanted people to post up their games as part of a "it helps me, it helps you" deal.

It goes from, "hey guys, I've got a site, we need some form of distribution, add your games, it'll help me and it'll also help you. It's what we need" to "it's my site, your opinions don't matter, it's how I like it and it's all for me".

If the latter is true then what was the point of the former?

Insert Name Here
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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 00:56
Quote: "This is one thing that I have to agree with Fluffy on: greenlight is a farce, it's nothing more than a popularity contest which has nothing to do with actual quality. Look at Yogventures for example, a game that wasn't even a fully-fledged idea yet was instantly approved because of the Yogscast's fleet of unthinking fans. And how many of those will actually buy the game? I'm sure a few thousand probably will, but I'd be surprised if it has any kind of real success. The name alone is a massive hindrance to appealing to anyone beyond Yogscast fandom."

Yeah, I think there should be second layer of Greenlight where Valve actually verify the game themselves - it probably wouldn't be popular, but it would stop Steam from being flooded with crap.

Quote: "What the bloody hell is going on?"

-Desmond, 'Lost'
Libervurto
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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 01:22 Edited at: 29th Apr 2013 01:23
~ Welcome to Fluffy & Sons Gaming Shop ~
Customer: "Good morning! Dreadful weather we're having isn't it?"
Fluffy: "It's not my problem if the weather's bad, if you don't like it you can piss off somewhere else!"
Customer: "Err..."
Fluffy: "Come on then, are you going to buy something or are you just here to complain and waste my time?"
Customer: "That's a bit rude, I was only saying 'Good Morning'."
Fluffy: "YOU ROTTEN LIAR! You weren't just saying 'Good Morning' at all! You came into my wonderful shop, started going on and on complaining about the weather, insulting my shop, wasting my time, not buying anything, all before I've had the chance to open my mouth! And look, you're still standing there and haven't bought a single thing! Just get out!"


Insert Name Here
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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 01:32
Quote: "~ Welcome to Fluffy & Sons Gaming Shop ~
Customer: "Good morning! Dreadful weather we're having isn't it?"
Fluffy: "It's not my problem if the weather's bad, if you don't like it you can piss off somewhere else!"
Customer: "Err..."
Fluffy: "Come on then, are you going to buy something or are you just here to complain and waste my time?"
Customer: "That's a bit rude, I was only saying 'Good Morning'."
Fluffy: "YOU ROTTEN LIAR! You weren't just saying 'Good Morning' at all! You came into my wonderful shop, started going on and on complaining about the weather, insulting my shop, wasting my time, not buying anything, all before I've had the chance to open my mouth! And look, you're still standing there and haven't bought a single thing! Just get out!""

Let's make each other's dreams come true.

Quote: "What the bloody hell is going on?"

-Desmond, 'Lost'
mr Handy
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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 01:32
Quote: "~ Welcome to Fluffy & Sons Gaming Shop ~
Customer: "Good morning! Dreadful weather we're having isn't it?"
Fluffy: "It's not my problem if the weather's bad, if you don't like it you can piss off somewhere else!"
Customer: "Err..."
Fluffy: "Come on then, are you going to buy something or are you just here to complain and waste my time?"
Customer: "That's a bit rude, I was only saying 'Good Morning'."
Fluffy: "YOU ROTTEN LIAR! You weren't just saying 'Good Morning' at all! You came into my wonderful shop, started going on and on complaining about the weather, insulting my shop, wasting my time, not buying anything, all before I've had the chance to open my mouth! And look, you're still standing there and haven't bought a single thing! Just leave your money and get out!""



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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 02:20
Ya, that story 'bout sums up this thread. :/

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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 05:50
Flame

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Posted: 29th Apr 2013 17:52
Wow! just.. wow!

I reject your reality and substitute my own...

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