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The Stryker Force
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Hey guys! I just recently made a review to the fantastic game ALPHA PROJECT made by the user Lewis here on the forums. It's a great horror survival FPS and it's got some great features that I rarely see other games have here on the forum.

I was wondering if you guys would take the time to check it out. I personally think this guy deserves recognition for his work, and as always, I'm hoping more than ever that we get to see from him!

Check it out, and leave some criticism on how and I can improve my videos, and SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE GAMES TO REVIEW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnJpYzKmchc
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Posted: 5th May 2013 10:42
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I thought it was a pretty good review. Subscribed.

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Posted: 5th May 2013 10:54
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3 minutes in and this review is purely excellent. Nice job!

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Posted: 5th May 2013 15:05
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Review looks good - but where do you find the game? I've just searched the forum and found several threads about Alpha Project but no downloads.
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Posted: 5th May 2013 16:41
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The Stryker Force
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Quote: "I thought it was a pretty good review. Subscribed. "


Fantastic! Thank you very much for your subscription, and I promise that it won't go to waste!

Quote: "3 minutes in and this review is purely excellent. Nice job!"


Nice! Glad to see I'm doing something right, here on the forums!

Quote: "Review looks good - but where do you find the game? I've just searched the forum and found several threads about Alpha Project but no downloads. "


Look at the link in the description below. I've provided the main page of the devs here on the Game Creators forum, but if you can't find it, simply go to the main forum menu and navigate as so:

TGC Forums> FPS Creator> FPS Creator Showcase> The (new) BOTB > Alpha Project

Or here's the raw link:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=162211&b=35
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Posted: 6th May 2013 08:48
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I liked the review, it felt honest, cut any fuss but also I appreciated mostly how considerate you were of how it was made it was FPSC. You weren't one of those people who thought "ergh er, bad AI, outdated graphics, er ergh .. .", like some people out there do. You actually understood from the developers point of view, which many reviews can fail to do. It also made me reflect on how I should improve my game, it doesn't fit the quality of atmosphere that you describe, which is the quality I'm aiming for.

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Posted: 6th May 2013 11:56
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Quote: "You weren't one of those people who thought "ergh er, bad AI, outdated graphics, er ergh .. .", like some people out there do. You actually understood from the developers point of view, which many reviews can fail to do. "


Exactly this. Some reviews of this nature don't necessarily determine whether game is fun or not, but judge it based on titles with large budgets with bigger engines. It may have outdated graphics and poor AI, but is the game fun and challenging enough, does it create the right atmosphere? Does it immerse me as a player? You answered those kinds of questions and you picked up on some of the flaws, but balance it out. Like the generic plot.

At the end of it, I felt like I might enjoy playing the game, which I think is what you set out to do.

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Posted: 6th May 2013 13:13
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The Stryker Force

Thanks for the link. I thought I'd checked that thread but obviously had a moment of blindness/stupidity.

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Posted: 6th May 2013 22:05 Edited at: 6th May 2013 22:08
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You have a good style and I appreciate that you don't try to gain more viewers by adding immature humour or anything like that. So many reviewers do that =/

I agree with most of your points, disagree with a few minor things but its a solid review.

I'd love to see more from you!



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Was that your first ever review? It was very good, I liked it. I am now going to be a hyper-critical bastard... Bear in mind that what I\'m about to say are things I think you could improve on, I don\'t think you did anything badly.

Your voice was clear but a bit monotonous in places. When you are talking for a long time you need to punctuate your speech with intonation to group things into neat little packages in the listener\'s head and help express your meaning, otherwise it\'s like a constant stream of words. You do this to some extent but I feel you could greatly improve with practice. Do you watch TotalHalibut (TotalBiscuit) on youtube? Your style somewhat reminded me of him and he sets a great example.

Did you write a script? It sounded to me like you made a few key points and went off that because while the review overall covered a good deal and had structure to it, I felt like each point you made circled around a bit before moving on to the next, if that makes sense.

You say \"sh*t\" twice, now I\'m not sure about this but I think any use of profanity means you have to mark your video as \"adults only\". Something to think about because that might lock out a lot of potential viewers (who are too dumb to make a fake account). If you can get the same message across without using profanity then it might be best to do that, but that depends on what you are aiming for.

Don\'t give ratings. This is not even a suggestion: do not give ratings. Ratings are arbitrary and subjective, it\'s impossible to keep even your own ratings balanced because your opinions will no doubt change over time. Even if you manage to give consistent ratings and gain fans who trust your opinion and can interpret your ratings, because they know your tastes, you will be encouraging them to skip to the end of the video to see the rating rather than watch the full review. The rating negates the entire content of the review, it gives the false impression that the rating is the end product of the review and more important than the review itself, when in fact it has little to no value whatsoever.

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Posted: 7th May 2013 01:24
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This was a pretty good review, better than most out there IMO.

Your voice was very clear and you didn't realy wander off onto other things when talking.

One thing I did notice was that you blamed a lot of the issues with the game on the FPSC engine, which is very true and everyone that has used it can agree that it has issues, but to me you seemed to give the game a better rating because it was made in FPSC. Im fine with that, but if you want to review a game based on gameplay, you may want to decrease that a bit.

Also, what obese said about ratings sounds very true.

All in all, it was a good review and I would love to se more. The fact that you are trying to find small less known indie games is also a good thing IMO.
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Quote: "You have a good style and I appreciate that you don't try to gain more viewers by adding immature humour or anything like that. So many reviewers do that =/

I agree with most of your points, disagree with a few minor things but its a solid review.

I'd love to see more from you!



-Wolf"


Thank you so much Wolf! I've actually gotten a big list from the fantastic community here, and I've managed to get 3 more games that I'm going to download and play, two of them FPSC games, and the other being a DarkBasic game!


Quote: "Was that your first ever review? It was very good, I liked it. I am now going to be a hyper-critical bastard... Bear in mind that what I\'m about to say are things I think you could improve on, I don\'t think you did anything badly.

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Yes, that was my first ever episode of 'Under the Radar' on my channel, and so it was a little rough around the edges, but I reckon over time, my skill of rhetoric and critique will eventually hone itself. Only time will tell

As for your criticism, I really appreciate it, and I'm most certainly going to take on board everything you've said

Quote: "This was a pretty good review, better than most out there IMO.

Your voice was very clear and you didn't realy wander off onto other things when talking.

One thing I did notice was that you blamed a lot of the issues with the game on the FPSC engine, which is very true and everyone that has used it can agree that it has issues, but to me you seemed to give the game a better rating because it was made in FPSC. Im fine with that, but if you want to review a game based on gameplay, you may want to decrease that a bit.

Also, what obese said about ratings sounds very true.

All in all, it was a good review and I would love to se more. The fact that you are trying to find small less known indie games is also a good thing IMO."


Why thank you

And I might get rid of the rating system, and hang my opinion based off of a different approach instead. What do you guys have in mind? Share your opinions with me


All in all, I just want to say... thank you all so much for the positive feedback! Stay tuned for some more fantastic game reviews, and I think I might do the horror FPS Euthanasia next... what do you guys think? Share your opinions with me
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Posted: 7th May 2013 11:08
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Quote: "and I think I might do the horror FPS Euthanasia next... what do you guys think"


Go for it, if its anything like the first one reviewing Euthanasia would be great!

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Quote: "and I think I might do the horror FPS Euthanasia next... what do you guys think?"


I'll be watching you

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Quote: "I'll be watching you

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I have no idea whether that meant to be evil, encouraging, or sexual. Either one's fine with me

Quote: "Go for it, if its anything like the first one reviewing Euthanasia would be great!

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Euthanasia is also a game that will make me crap my pants. I was a little doubtful at first on making a review for it, since Whiteboy7thst did a playthrough of the game and I thought that I would get yelled at for making a review of that game.

I'm making 2 reviews this weekend, the first one being a review for the HMS Diptera game, and the other for Euthanasia.
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Looking forward to it! Good luck

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I've tried both Alpha Project and Euthanasia and I get stuck in both games in the same way - at a certain point I find I just can't move or I'm just running around in circles through a maze. When I get stuck nothing seems to work, jumping, crouching, etc. I have to reload in each case. Apart from those issues I liked the ambience and content of both games especially Alpha Project. It's just the actual gameplay in this type of game that beats me for some reason - there always seems to be some hidden door, hatch, breakable window, obscure key combination or something that I just don't see. Very frustrating.

I thought the music in Alpha Project was particularly good, reminiscent of Doom3 as someone mentioned - and the game runs far more smoothly than Doom3 which I find almost unplayable (and I get stuck there too in the same way ). Perhaps this style of game just ain't intended for the likes of me.
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Quote: "I've tried both Alpha Project and Euthanasia and I get stuck in both games in the same way - at a certain point I find I just can't move or I'm just running around in circles through a maze. When I get stuck nothing seems to work, jumping, crouching, etc. I have to reload in each case. Apart from those issues I liked the ambience and content of both games especially Alpha Project. It's just the actual gameplay in this type of game that beats me for some reason - there always seems to be some hidden door, hatch, breakable window, obscure key combination or something that I just don't see. Very frustrating. "


Its probably in level 1... the puzzles in there don't make much logical sense so here is a video of it.

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Blimey! I didn't see anything of that. Looks like I need to start again from the start. Thanks.

Now I know what the reviewer was talking about - very effective.
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Quote: "I thought the music in Alpha Project was particularly good, reminiscent of Doom3 as someone mentioned - and the game runs far more smoothly than Doom3 which I find almost unplayable (and I get stuck there too in the same way ). Perhaps this style of game just ain't intended for the likes of me. "


Doom 3: The game which gave me nightmares as a kid.
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Quote: "Doom 3: The game which gave me nightmares as a kid."


It was Quatermass and The Pit for me.
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I really LOVE YOU ALL
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