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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Thanks to all who helped Me with My fastfood restaurant. Now I courld use some ideas for My garage... (Screenshots)

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ncmako
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Mr Love The "blanket" looks good ... Don't sweat the small stuff.
As far as a trash can goes... there are so many to chose from. ModelPacks #1,2 & 3, the London pack has some, the Night City pack...ect
Some are trash cans, others are bins or barrels...ect
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Posted: 10th Feb 2018 00:55
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Looks great Mr Love.
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Thanks alot xplosys, I needed that.
ncmako, I was looking for something for a "public toilet" .. A barrel wourld look a bit weird there!
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Mr Love There is a nice little "Public Bathroom" type trash can in the "Modern Day" pack ( not modern day #2 )
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Posted: 11th Feb 2018 14:46
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Thanks Mike, but I am keeping My old ones.. LOL the trash can from MP1 is more of an ashtray, look at the top of it. LOL!
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Posted: 15th Feb 2018 14:59 Edited at: 15th Feb 2018 15:02
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Have been really busy making models and optimize My level3 that is almost ready. I was really curious to work with makehuman and the result turned out well. A 34000 polygon model!!! When mixamos optimizer is gone, what do You do? You add the plugin "simple maker" into Cinema4D and try to do Your best to optimize parts of the body.. I think I did ok.. From 34000 polygons to 8900 polys after alot of work. The result can be seen on the picture (Flat shaded) It still looks like a 34000 polygon model when shaders and texture is on... I think its kind of funny to improve the old sci-fi and ww2 models, so today I did a remake of the old "oiltank", or was it a gastank? Anyways as You can see, its an oiltank NOW! Critics please...

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The character's topology is nightmarish if you're planning on having him animate. Look at his knees!
If he's going to animate make sure you've got enough loops where he's going to be moving the most.
http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/BodyTopology There's some good ref here
If something compiles on the first try. Something is terribly wrong.
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It is an animation-frame at the picture. The model animates perfect without any polygon flaws... (I have been modeling for 15 Years, I know what works and what dont) It even works with ragdoll!
Here is a picture of the same model shaded and with texture...

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Mr Love The oil tank looks great, I like the rivets Good luck with the character. Hope all works out, he looks good so far!
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Everything worked fine with the model, and Im finished with level3!!! But yesterday and today was/is a nightmare because the lightmaps are getting too big (over 4000mb, it will crash) It worked fine 2 days ago when the lightmap-quality was 60% Now it doesnt even work with 5%......
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Quote: " lightmap-quality was 60% Now it doesnt even work with 5%......"

Wow 60%, ok, but it should at least build with 5%. Try this, close fpsc, clean out files inside "levelbank\testlevel"
Delete all the files inside "testlevel" ( those are all the lightmap built files) including the folder "lightmaps" inside.... do not delete the folder "testlevel" !
This will force a new lightmap files with the next test/build.
Then try also deleting all your temp. test run files. I have win-7...so mine are located under your user name "AppData\Local\Temp\"
Inside delete everything, I'm not sure how win-10 has it setup?
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Posted: 19th Feb 2018 17:24 Edited at: 19th Feb 2018 17:25
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Ok, I was so lucky I did a lightmap-build with 10% quality, and it looks like s--t... Everything takes mutch more memory now than two days ago, entitys static objects etc.. Will My map never look good again???
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Quote: " Everything takes much more memory now / entitys static objects etc.. "

Not sure what you mean ? Are you saying dynamic entities are now static ??? Or just everything, all the entities.
First, did you clear out all the old temp. files ? Next take a look at two important things, first the setup.ini (you know this one, make sure nothing has changed, just to be safe)
Then second, no one ever talks about this one... the buildsetup.ini, it must match the "setup.ini" to make a clone build.
In the past it has caused problems by changed settings. The "setup.ini" is for testing, then it's suppose to transfer those settings to the "Buildsetup.ini"
That doesn't always happen
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Posted: 21st Feb 2018 00:24
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Quote: "Not sure what you mean ? Are you saying dynamic entities are now static ??? "

No. What Im saying is that everything when compiling takes about 1000mb more than two days ago...
Quote: "First, did you clear out all the old temp. files ?"

Yep...
Well, I think You have misunderstood Me. I am not trying to build an exe here, just compile a testgame...
I did make a clean reinstall, but the problems came with Me....
Did even tryed to use regedit to find hackerdata, but its hard to find....
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Quote: " everything when compiling takes about 1000mb more than two days ago"

Just by chance, is your "Light-Mapper.exe" even working ??? If your "test build" jumps up that much
something changed?
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Quote: "Just by chance, is your "Light-Mapper.exe" even working ???"

Well, no vanilla doesnt have Light-Mapper.exe, just BI...
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Mr Love That's right, I forgot your not using BI. I would start looking into any "new" entities you may have added
since this problem started if any of them might be the culprit ? Also what are your "Preference" settings before testing?
And if you can attach your "setup.ini" file, maybe we'll see something off, maybe
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Posted: 24th Feb 2018 22:08
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Ok fine, but I do that tomorrow, Im just too tired today and going to have a Netflix evening.
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Ok, now I have some new info. I use two backups and one with the newest files, and one with a little bit older files. The old files backup was from the time when I used 60% lightmapping and it worked! Now the old files didnt work, so its not a model or something like that...
I have no idea what has changed in the computer, I have had updates and I use a new antivirus with firewall (COMODO) but It courld be anything or anyone causing this problems...
Here is My setupfile, intresting that I cant change eather screensize or optimize mode....





























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I have a similar problem with dark basic pro sometimes the compiler generally crashes without any reason, only cleaning the temp folder "C: \ Users \ user \ AppData \ Local \ Temp" helps.
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Quote: "intresting that I cant change eather screensize or optimize mode"

Remember, changes to the setup.ini must be made with fpsc Closed before taking effect.
For the "resolution sizes, try setting the aspectratio to zero under "GAMEDEBUG"
(aspectratio=set to 1 to force the game resolution to obey the aspect ratio of the current desktop screen size)
There's another one at top under "GAMERUN", that may need to be changed also ?
As for "Optimized Mode" I believe that should be left on =1

These are/seem to be low settings, but try setting your "dividetexturesize=0" to 2 and test run.
You can also set it in the "Preference Settings" in the editor. See if that helps any?
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Posted: 27th Feb 2018 00:29 Edited at: 1st Mar 2018 03:55
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Quote: "I have a similar problem with dark basic pro sometimes the compiler generally crashes without any reason, only cleaning the temp folder "C: \ Users \ user \ AppData \ Local \ Temp" helps."

Thanks sman512 but I have tried that already, sadly no success...

Quote: "Remember, changes to the setup.ini must be made with fpsc Closed before taking effect."

I know that.. I always have FPSC closed down when Im change the settings...
Some creative tries from Mike here I always wondred why there is two aspectratio? Maybe Lee got alzheimers or something??? (That wourld explain Gameguru.) (And that was a joke.)
Yes, I always change both aspectratio. I have tried to set the dividetexturesize to "2-4", the game looks unacceptable.. (But I will give it a shot..)
Ofcourse theese changes will take less memory, (It will make the game look horrible) but I will try them out, But I dont understand why?
Ok! Now I have tried everyting that Mike told Me to do, Strange it didnt use less memory for the Entitys??? (What a mystery!)
Thanks for the support Guys!
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2018 06:22 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2018 06:25
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Just wanted to pass by, first I want to say great work to Nomad Soul Who have created an outofthebox working pack for Visual Studio. Sadly I dont script Myself, but I think this will intrest many new programmers... Sence You read this thread, i guess You havnt missed that level3 is ready, except for some signs. Anyways now I am planning level4, and its still in the prison, but this time You get to see the prisonyard and the buildings is mutch bigger than the smaller building in level3. In this level You are suppose to save colonel Baxter from torture to make Him "Talk" and escape both alive a long way in the prison, escaping with a prison-bus... I have nothing ready Yet except for what I have on paper, but I did a test today of the prison fasade. I think it turned out pretty well. What do You Guys think? The only thing that will be diffrent is that the windows in the game will be partly transparent...

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Mr Love Looks good Maybe scale the "brick" texture a little bit smaller?
Other than that it will work.
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Or change the texture to concrete blocks, but yeah... the texture is too large for bricks, though I think Mario may have a different opinion.
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Thanks Guys for the critics. But in this case these are not ordinary building bricks but more of building blocks.. Sence the prison has an old-school look, concrete-blocks just wont do the trick...
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And here is the finished segment. It turned up great I think! The Alpha really made it look mutch more realistic...

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Mr Love Looks fantastic I like the "bars" in front of the window.
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Thanks ncmako! But the bars are not in the front of the window. The window, glass and bars are all one texture. It does fools Your eyes, doesnt it?
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Today I made the best model I have ever done in My opinion. Took the whole day, Phew! It was suppose to become a prison bus, but the lack of good textures made Me do this school bus instead. But dont worry, I will fix the textures later on so it will look like a perfect prison bus. I can show You Guys the finished result later.. (The bus is an extreme lowpoly model 1261 polygons only) I think I will sell this on CGTrader later. Happy surprise yesterday, sold a subway-gate yesterday for 20 bucks, I think this will sell even better...
Here is some pictures on My bus:

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Mr Love The "bus" looks fantastic It'll do, changing the texture for a "prison look" shouldn't be too hard
Quote: "The bus is an extreme lowpoly model 1261 polygons"

Yep and I bet most of those polys are for the under-carriage and wheels ?
Quote: " sold a subway-gate yesterday for 20 bucks"

Great ! See good things do happen
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Quote: " It'll do, changing the texture for a "prison look" shouldn't be too hard "

No, not at all. Just some bars over the sidewindows and some text... Now I can sell it both as a schoolbus and prisonbus. LOL!!
BTW, I think I might use firma for My window room segment. Do You know what mesh Firma uses for room segments. Its not totally flat???

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Quote: "Do You know what mesh Firma uses for room segments"

They are all WW2 segment meshes .... "meshbank\ww2\france\rooms"
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I have only set up the "backdrop" of My game, and with 20% lightmapping the memory has hit 2500mb when testing the game... This is Bogus!!!

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"Someone" did doubt that I wourld make a good prison bus out of a school bus, but Whola! One prison bus that looks autentic to Me...

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Mr Love See, it all worked out I did notice there is a door on both sides?
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Quote: "I did notice there is a door on both sides?"

I didnt know that before, but some busses have that for real. (I guess the driver want His own one) But I courld have fixed that, for a more standard model.. (Dont have time!)
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Ok! Now I have fixed a side-window for the Bus, and also fixed alot of texture problems as well. Here is the finished result...

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Huh... It's a school bus again! Is that a Magic Bus? "I don't want to cause no fuss, but can I buy your Magic Bus? I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it."
Songwriters: Peter Townshend
Magic Bus lyrics © T.R.O. Inc.

Still some texture problems, especially the front glass and where it meets the sides, but easy enough to fix.
I don't think I've ever seen a yellow prison bus, and I watch a lot of movies! Usually they're blue or white, at least in the states.
Anyway, awesome for a very low poly model.

On a side note, I'm about to loose my internet (next week) for I don't know how long, so I wish you continued success with your game.
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You want it!? Here is a link to CGTrader https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?keywords=prison+bus
Yea, I agree that the Prisonbus needs some work. I will update it later, for everybody Who has bought the model..
Quote: "I don't think I've ever seen a yellow prison bus, and I watch a lot of movies!"

Wasnt the Prison Bus in "Wolf of wall street" a yellow one? And this on in GTA...
Good Luck Yourself with Your fine projects xplosys!

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Mr Love Sweet, looks good
@ Xplosys Good luck, see you when you get back.
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Thanks ncmako! I wonder, when You are done with Dark City, wourld You be intrested to be Leadprogrammer for the project I am working on? But its 100% Commercial and AAA quality is a must... (I Think that We wourld be a dreamteam, and perhaps find another modeller Guy..)

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Mr Love Thank you for the offer.... but I'm definitely no AAA artist/programmer
Yes,we could make a good game together, but I like making little quirky games for now
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Ok I understand. We can help Each other, but We are not officially a team.. It was most Your rigging, gunrigging and programming skills I was intrested in.. LOL! Whats a quirky game?
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Quote: "Whats a quirky game?"

Fun, humorous, not being to serious. Just having fun making it
I don't want it to be a chore
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Thats okay ncmako! Im having really fun when I work with My projects.. Today for example, I made My second pistol, a Walther PPK of course, What else??? Im a great Bond fan, but Ill will sell this model as well. It even have a silencer!
I will show it to You Guys later...
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My first and second try to make a Pistol was horrible, just cardboard cut-outs! But that was 10 Years ago. Yes I havnt made a Pistol or any gun for 10 years, so I thought it was time to do a gun, cardboard or not I have learn many model technics so it shourld look better this time!
I am sutch a bond fan, and My favorite film is "IN HER MAJESTYS SECRET SERVICE" So I was thinking to Myself, why not make the James Bond gun, a Walther PPK? And I did...
This is pictures of the result... (The barrel and reciver is a little bit high up) Data: Polygons=1844, Vertex=1035 (Extreme lowpolygon model)

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Quote: "My favorite film is "IN HER MAJESTYS SECRET SERVICE" "

George Lazenby is considered by many one of the best Bonds by fans, including myself
I'm no gun expert, but hey it looks good
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Yea, I always told My cousine that Lazenby was awesome in that movie, but He didnt agree, He said is was the worst(!) Bond movie ever.. He doesnt see the beauty of this 60-70s feel like it has.. I also liked Moore, but Lazenby has it all a Bond shourld have.. Latest movies are crappy I think...
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Just took a screenshot from the old prison. Its weird how HL2 it is!? You can just imagine the Combines rushing in and shoot and throw grenates! God how cool it wourld be with bullet-trace in FPSC....

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